Re: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

[Guest guest]

I've thought about going raw for quite some time. I'm vegetarian and a

significant number of my meals are already raw anyway (since I discovered they

were already SCD legal). I haven't gone 100% yet. I'm not entirely sure that I

will but I'd like to at least try it for a short(ish?) period of time because

every person I've talked to who has tried going raw has talked about how amazing

they feel and how clear headed they are now. I know there's at least one guy

who claims to have cured his UC by going raw.

Stacey

>

> I have chronic pancreatitis, colitis, IBS, and a condition resulting from

pancreatic deficiency that causes the mucus throughout my body to harden. As a

result of a really scary pancreatitis episode in December- January, I went onto

the BTVC-SCD program religiously. I immediately improved immensely.

>

> But about 6 weeks ago, this hardening of the mucus really made breathing and

swallowing difficult. From a local health foods store, my husband brought home

some mucolytic enzymes, which in desperation, I took. To my shock, I gained

almost immediate relief. Then I started finding information on enzymes and how

the metabolic enzymes do not live just in the stomach. I found that in order to

avoid spending a fortune on mycolytic (and general) enzymes, I had to go onto a

raw diet. I have been living that way for about a month, and am doing MUCH

better with the breathing and swallowing problems and have kept the digestion

problems under control as well.

>

> I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.

> Ann

>

[Guest guest]

Good for him. I could never just *go raw*, because there are too many things

that can be eaten raw that I simply have to avoid altogether. I stick with the

SCD, cooked or raw. I was in a bad condition when BTVC brought me out of it.

Ann

> >

> > I have chronic pancreatitis, colitis, IBS, and a condition resulting from

pancreatic deficiency that causes the mucus throughout my body to harden. As a

result of a really scary pancreatitis episode in December- January, I went onto

the BTVC-SCD program religiously. I immediately improved immensely.

> >

> > But about 6 weeks ago, this hardening of the mucus really made breathing and

swallowing difficult. From a local health foods store, my husband brought home

some mucolytic enzymes, which in desperation, I took. To my shock, I gained

almost immediate relief. Then I started finding information on enzymes and how

the metabolic enzymes do not live just in the stomach. I found that in order to

avoid spending a fortune on mycolytic (and general) enzymes, I had to go onto a

raw diet. I have been living that way for about a month, and am doing MUCH

better with the breathing and swallowing problems and have kept the digestion

problems under control as well.

> >

> > I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.

> > Ann

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good for him. I could never just *go raw*, because there are too many things

that can be eaten raw that I simply have to avoid altogether. I stick with the

SCD, cooked or raw. I was in a bad condition when BTVC brought me out of it.

Ann

> >

> > I have chronic pancreatitis, colitis, IBS, and a condition resulting from

pancreatic deficiency that causes the mucus throughout my body to harden. As a

result of a really scary pancreatitis episode in December- January, I went onto

the BTVC-SCD program religiously. I immediately improved immensely.

> >

> > But about 6 weeks ago, this hardening of the mucus really made breathing and

swallowing difficult. From a local health foods store, my husband brought home

some mucolytic enzymes, which in desperation, I took. To my shock, I gained

almost immediate relief. Then I started finding information on enzymes and how

the metabolic enzymes do not live just in the stomach. I found that in order to

avoid spending a fortune on mycolytic (and general) enzymes, I had to go onto a

raw diet. I have been living that way for about a month, and am doing MUCH

better with the breathing and swallowing problems and have kept the digestion

problems under control as well.

> >

> > I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.

> > Ann

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Good for him. I could never just *go raw*, because there are too many things

that can be eaten raw that I simply have to avoid altogether. I stick with the

SCD, cooked or raw. I was in a bad condition when BTVC brought me out of it.

Ann

> >

> > I have chronic pancreatitis, colitis, IBS, and a condition resulting from

pancreatic deficiency that causes the mucus throughout my body to harden. As a

result of a really scary pancreatitis episode in December- January, I went onto

the BTVC-SCD program religiously. I immediately improved immensely.

> >

> > But about 6 weeks ago, this hardening of the mucus really made breathing and

swallowing difficult. From a local health foods store, my husband brought home

some mucolytic enzymes, which in desperation, I took. To my shock, I gained

almost immediate relief. Then I started finding information on enzymes and how

the metabolic enzymes do not live just in the stomach. I found that in order to

avoid spending a fortune on mycolytic (and general) enzymes, I had to go onto a

raw diet. I have been living that way for about a month, and am doing MUCH

better with the breathing and swallowing problems and have kept the digestion

problems under control as well.

> >

> > I was just curious as to whether anyone else eats raw SCD.

> > Ann

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, Shirley Ann, the fish looks just like cooked fish, and tastes like a

fish that has been heavily marinated then baked. It can even be warmed up to

less than 118 degrees, and still give all its benefits. I don't use fish that

flakes apart easily, and it is wild-caught, so that it is very firm and

hopefully healthy fish.

Ann

> >

> > That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw?  Please tell me not meats. 

Do you do a lot of juicing or what? 

> >  

> > Ann,

> > Living in Italy

> > Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977   Diagnosed 15 years

> > Sacroiliitis 25 years

> > Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

> > Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

> > SCD since July, 2008

> > Meds: None

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: ann_garner

> > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM

> > Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

> >

> >  

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, Shirley Ann, the fish looks just like cooked fish, and tastes like a

fish that has been heavily marinated then baked. It can even be warmed up to

less than 118 degrees, and still give all its benefits. I don't use fish that

flakes apart easily, and it is wild-caught, so that it is very firm and

hopefully healthy fish.

Ann

> >

> > That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw?  Please tell me not meats. 

Do you do a lot of juicing or what? 

> >  

> > Ann,

> > Living in Italy

> > Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977   Diagnosed 15 years

> > Sacroiliitis 25 years

> > Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

> > Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

> > SCD since July, 2008

> > Meds: None

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: ann_garner

> > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM

> > Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

> >

> >  

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Actually, Shirley Ann, the fish looks just like cooked fish, and tastes like a

fish that has been heavily marinated then baked. It can even be warmed up to

less than 118 degrees, and still give all its benefits. I don't use fish that

flakes apart easily, and it is wild-caught, so that it is very firm and

hopefully healthy fish.

Ann

> >

> > That sounds very interesting, how do you do raw?  Please tell me not meats. 

Do you do a lot of juicing or what? 

> >  

> > Ann,

> > Living in Italy

> > Undiagnosed Crohn's since 1977   Diagnosed 15 years

> > Sacroiliitis 25 years

> > Rheumatoid arthritis 25 years

> > Pyoderma Gangronosum 2 years

> > SCD since July, 2008

> > Meds: None

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ____________ _________ _________ __

> > From: ann_garner

> > To: BTVC-SCD@yahoogroup s.com

> > Sent: Friday, August 21, 2009 9:52:12 PM

> > Subject: Anyone else on Raw SCD?

> >

> >  

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Ann,

Eggs are absolutely wonderful.

I eat two raw eggs daily that I get from the farmers market that I know are

pasture raised, hormone and antibiotic free.

If someone would of told me two years ago I would be able to eat raw eggs I

would of had terrified roaring laughter thinking they are crazy.

One of the reasons I had no improvement early on in the diet is due to eating

soft boiled eggs which just about turned all of my insides into watery unending

D. Marilyn on the other hand did notoriously well with soft boiled eggs.

Just again shows how we are all different!

With that said, I am very happy for you that this raw tweaking within the SCD

has helped you so much! I know how encouraging it feels to figure out a major

component of the puzzle.

) Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hey Ann,

Eggs are absolutely wonderful.

I eat two raw eggs daily that I get from the farmers market that I know are

pasture raised, hormone and antibiotic free.

If someone would of told me two years ago I would be able to eat raw eggs I

would of had terrified roaring laughter thinking they are crazy.

One of the reasons I had no improvement early on in the diet is due to eating

soft boiled eggs which just about turned all of my insides into watery unending

D. Marilyn on the other hand did notoriously well with soft boiled eggs.

Just again shows how we are all different!

With that said, I am very happy for you that this raw tweaking within the SCD

has helped you so much! I know how encouraging it feels to figure out a major

component of the puzzle.

) Jodi

[Guest guest]

Jodi, how do you eat your raw eggs? Katy

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[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

What is pre-digested fish?

how does this work?

Is it treated?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann,

What is pre-digested fish?

how does this work?

Is it treated?

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Katy,

I make a smoothie every morning with;

dripped goat yogurt

coconut oil

2 raw eggs

juiced spinach

package of berries (which I juice and strain either strawberries or blueberries)

2 tree ripe peaches from the farmers market

sea salt

juice of a lime or lemon

Sometimes I use Cilantro, sometimes nectarines.

It's delicious. High light of my day (no bananas which is a big deal for me)

and it is loaded with protein that I feel satiated too.

I'm thinking of throwing an avocado in there too- waiting for good avocados.

Nothing worse than a dud avocado.. Well yea, a dud oyster EWWWW!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Hi Katy,

I make a smoothie every morning with;

dripped goat yogurt

coconut oil

2 raw eggs

juiced spinach

package of berries (which I juice and strain either strawberries or blueberries)

2 tree ripe peaches from the farmers market

sea salt

juice of a lime or lemon

Sometimes I use Cilantro, sometimes nectarines.

It's delicious. High light of my day (no bananas which is a big deal for me)

and it is loaded with protein that I feel satiated too.

I'm thinking of throwing an avocado in there too- waiting for good avocados.

Nothing worse than a dud avocado.. Well yea, a dud oyster EWWWW!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Jodi, wow it looks packed with nutrition and flavor. Are you amazed that they all go together? Katy

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[Guest guest]

Jodi, wow it looks packed with nutrition and flavor. Are you amazed that they all go together? Katy

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[Guest guest]

Jodi, wow it looks packed with nutrition and flavor. Are you amazed that they all go together? Katy

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[Guest guest]

Katy,

I am so much more brave with combos and cooking since starting the SCD that this

was like a no brainer. I make savory smoothies with raw eggs too.. Marilyn

opened me up to that concept!

It was way harder for to eat soup for breakfast months on end. If I don't see

chicken soup for the rest of my life I will be one happy camper!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Katy,

I am so much more brave with combos and cooking since starting the SCD that this

was like a no brainer. I make savory smoothies with raw eggs too.. Marilyn

opened me up to that concept!

It was way harder for to eat soup for breakfast months on end. If I don't see

chicken soup for the rest of my life I will be one happy camper!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Katy,

I am so much more brave with combos and cooking since starting the SCD that this

was like a no brainer. I make savory smoothies with raw eggs too.. Marilyn

opened me up to that concept!

It was way harder for to eat soup for breakfast months on end. If I don't see

chicken soup for the rest of my life I will be one happy camper!

Jodi

[Guest guest]

But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it. That's where the whole raw debate comes in. You have people that believe that we were MEANT to live on fruits, veggies, and nuts, and can live very healthily on it. Then you have people who believe that we need meat, beans, grains, or whatever to be healthy. You have people who's bodies do wonderfully on the raw diet, and you have those who don't. Just another example of how everyone's different.There are many amino acids present in raw foods, and in the book "Green for Life" there is a chart showing the high numbers in greens. The debate is the fact that they aren't 'complete' proteins like animal products are. THen you have some people who think you need to combine proteins in the same meal to get complete ones (like the beans and nuts) and you have people who believe that you could eat a bean today and a nut tomorrow and your body could combine them fine. So frankly, you just have to do the research, look at how your body reacts, and make your own decision. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it. That's where the whole raw debate comes in. You have people that believe that we were MEANT to live on fruits, veggies, and nuts, and can live very healthily on it. Then you have people who believe that we need meat, beans, grains, or whatever to be healthy. You have people who's bodies do wonderfully on the raw diet, and you have those who don't. Just another example of how everyone's different.There are many amino acids present in raw foods, and in the book "Green for Life" there is a chart showing the high numbers in greens. The debate is the fact that they aren't 'complete' proteins like animal products are. THen you have some people who think you need to combine proteins in the same meal to get complete ones (like the beans and nuts) and you have people who believe that you could eat a bean today and a nut tomorrow and your body could combine them fine. So frankly, you just have to do the research, look at how your body reacts, and make your own decision. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

But what about protien? I can't give up meat and I couldn't live on prociutto. Wouldn't you become very weak without protien? Nuts aren't enough, you have to mix them with beans and those are cooked. I don't get it. That's where the whole raw debate comes in. You have people that believe that we were MEANT to live on fruits, veggies, and nuts, and can live very healthily on it. Then you have people who believe that we need meat, beans, grains, or whatever to be healthy. You have people who's bodies do wonderfully on the raw diet, and you have those who don't. Just another example of how everyone's different.There are many amino acids present in raw foods, and in the book "Green for Life" there is a chart showing the high numbers in greens. The debate is the fact that they aren't 'complete' proteins like animal products are. THen you have some people who think you need to combine proteins in the same meal to get complete ones (like the beans and nuts) and you have people who believe that you could eat a bean today and a nut tomorrow and your body could combine them fine. So frankly, you just have to do the research, look at how your body reacts, and make your own decision. Pour Dieu, pour terre,Alyssa 15UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)2.5 mg Prednisone 1x daily ugh

[Guest guest]

My favorite so far has been wild-caught Mahi Mahi marinated thoroughly in lemon

juice for at least 12 hours. It will appear white as if it had been steamed.

Then I rinse it, dry it on paper towels by pressing the juice out. Then I rub

it with lemon pepper and wrap it in a clean dry paper towel to cure for a day.

I have done the same routine with wild-caught salmon and Ahi tuna, except I used

apple cider vinegar. It seems to dry the fish out more, so I will probably

stick with the lemon juice. I am experimenting with a *sourdough* raw bread

made of pureed avocado with a fine raw, soaked and dehydrated then milled nut

flour (yes, I do it myself to know what has happened to the food before I eat

it). A tad of your favorite sour-tasting spice (lemon pepper, raw apple cider

vinegar and such) to give it a spark.

Then about 8 hours in the dehydrator makes a kind of guacamole bread which goes

well with the raw (but pre-digested) fish. Not bad. The fish can be warmed

slightly (not in the microwave) at about human body temperature or a bit higher,

because it is kept refrigerated, of course, even after curing.

Ann

>

> Hi Ann,

>

> What is pre-digested fish?

> how does this work?

> Is it treated?

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

My favorite so far has been wild-caught Mahi Mahi marinated thoroughly in lemon

juice for at least 12 hours. It will appear white as if it had been steamed.

Then I rinse it, dry it on paper towels by pressing the juice out. Then I rub

it with lemon pepper and wrap it in a clean dry paper towel to cure for a day.

I have done the same routine with wild-caught salmon and Ahi tuna, except I used

apple cider vinegar. It seems to dry the fish out more, so I will probably

stick with the lemon juice. I am experimenting with a *sourdough* raw bread

made of pureed avocado with a fine raw, soaked and dehydrated then milled nut

flour (yes, I do it myself to know what has happened to the food before I eat

it). A tad of your favorite sour-tasting spice (lemon pepper, raw apple cider

vinegar and such) to give it a spark.

Then about 8 hours in the dehydrator makes a kind of guacamole bread which goes

well with the raw (but pre-digested) fish. Not bad. The fish can be warmed

slightly (not in the microwave) at about human body temperature or a bit higher,

because it is kept refrigerated, of course, even after curing.

Ann

>

> Hi Ann,

>

> What is pre-digested fish?

> how does this work?

> Is it treated?

>

> Jodi

>