Re: Need Help on Intro Diet

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

thing I can do?

I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

and applesauce.

Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

thing I can do?

I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

and applesauce.

Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

thing I can do?

I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

and applesauce.

Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

[Guest guest]

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and usually goes

back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the intro- from the soup.

You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples very quickly-. Some people

only do intro for a few days and then progress as tolerated. From what I've read

here- slow progression is best as one mistake people make is to eat foods that

they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

>

> Hi,

> It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

> intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

> behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

>

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

> else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

> headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

> or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

>

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

> could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

> just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

> thing I can do?

>

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

> mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

> not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

> runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

> because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

> have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

> but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

> three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

> affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

> phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

> and applesauce.

>

> Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and usually goes

back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the intro- from the soup.

You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples very quickly-. Some people

only do intro for a few days and then progress as tolerated. From what I've read

here- slow progression is best as one mistake people make is to eat foods that

they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

>

> Hi,

> It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

> intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

> behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

>

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

> else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

> headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

> or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

>

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

> could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

> just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

> thing I can do?

>

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

> mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

> not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

> runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

> because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

> have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

> but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

> three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

> affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

> phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

> and applesauce.

>

> Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and usually goes

back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the intro- from the soup.

You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples very quickly-. Some people

only do intro for a few days and then progress as tolerated. From what I've read

here- slow progression is best as one mistake people make is to eat foods that

they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

>

> Hi,

> It's me again. I am trying to figure out how to do a few days of the

> intro diet and so far I don't have enough ideas. I see the idea

> behind the legal diet but I can't eat that stuff.

>

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything

> else and I set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a

> headache all day. Clearly not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy

> or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in my intro note.

>

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and

> could make gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with

> just this, not with my hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst

> thing I can do?

>

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is

> mixed, I never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is

> not what anyone else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not

> runny. It's a bit looser than usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase

> because I have all the pain and nausea and cramps and urgency and

> have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times. Very bad days

> but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

> three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it

> affects my transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first

> phase even entirely apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast. But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and carrot

> and applesauce.

>

> Ideas? All help gratefully appreciated.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mara. Those additions should make it possible. I will

test the coconut oil but even if it's early for that olive oil will

be fine. Zucchini seems to work now so that plus the carrot and

banana and applesauce should help a lot. If I have a couple of very

sedentary days with no demands upon me, I think I can make it

work.

So, how do I decide how long to do it? As I said, the gut calmed down

enormously just giving up the rice so I haven't got a guideline like

" no more diarrhea " .

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most

of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the

first

> phase even entirely apply to me?

yeah - it applies to everyone. but obviously in some cases

modifications must be made.

> I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast.

But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a

real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and

carrot

> and applesauce.

cooked pureed carrot and add in peeled and cooked

and deseeded pureed zucchini cooked/pureed spinach and well

ripe banana, raw or cooked.

You can use butter, oils and coconut oil.

It will feel like you're eating baby food for a while, but it helps

the gut take a break. And will start rebalancing the gut

ecology.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mara. Those additions should make it possible. I will

test the coconut oil but even if it's early for that olive oil will

be fine. Zucchini seems to work now so that plus the carrot and

banana and applesauce should help a lot. If I have a couple of very

sedentary days with no demands upon me, I think I can make it

work.

So, how do I decide how long to do it? As I said, the gut calmed down

enormously just giving up the rice so I haven't got a guideline like

" no more diarrhea " .

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most

of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the

first

> phase even entirely apply to me?

yeah - it applies to everyone. but obviously in some cases

modifications must be made.

> I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast.

But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a

real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and

carrot

> and applesauce.

cooked pureed carrot and add in peeled and cooked

and deseeded pureed zucchini cooked/pureed spinach and well

ripe banana, raw or cooked.

You can use butter, oils and coconut oil.

It will feel like you're eating baby food for a while, but it helps

the gut take a break. And will start rebalancing the gut

ecology.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Mara. Those additions should make it possible. I will

test the coconut oil but even if it's early for that olive oil will

be fine. Zucchini seems to work now so that plus the carrot and

banana and applesauce should help a lot. If I have a couple of very

sedentary days with no demands upon me, I think I can make it

work.

So, how do I decide how long to do it? As I said, the gut calmed down

enormously just giving up the rice so I haven't got a guideline like

" no more diarrhea " .

>

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most

of

> what works for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the

first

> phase even entirely apply to me?

yeah - it applies to everyone. but obviously in some cases

modifications must be made.

> I think I might be able to do it on

> the gelatin and broth and some of my fat free chicken breast.

But

> after two days of that I would be so constipated it would be a

real

> problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at least banana and

carrot

> and applesauce.

cooked pureed carrot and add in peeled and cooked

and deseeded pureed zucchini cooked/pureed spinach and well

ripe banana, raw or cooked.

You can use butter, oils and coconut oil.

It will feel like you're eating baby food for a while, but it helps

the gut take a break. And will start rebalancing the gut

ecology.

Mara

[Guest guest]

Marilyn, what a great idea to list my foods for you. I will. Before

that, I will just say that if I eat anything other than fruit before 11AM

it precipitates a day of pain, bloating, and living in the bathroom, plus

terrible headaches and general malaise. In other words, a Really Bad

Day. I've experimented with adding a little oil or a little nut

butter but even they won't work. My chicken is so much the

worse. Lettuce or something like that might work. I can

handle the creamy almond butter at 11, and then the chicken at noon or

later. I've never figured out a clue as to why this is!

OK, my food list:

chicken, turkey - white meat much better because of the fat

almond butter

olive oil

avocado once in awhile

herbs,most -- spices minus a few like cinnamon and turmeric that don't

seem to agree with me (nasty headaches)

FRUITS:

apples, bananas, pears, mangos, papayas, pears, grapefruit, lemons/limes

and tangerines (no orange), peaches, cherries, nectarines, plums, melons,

kiwi, berries (no blueberries right now).

I have to watch quantities of

citrus and stone fruits re bowel activity but otherwise I can pretty much

have all

fruits

except orange, pineapple

and strawberries as they give me a rash).

Bananas, apples, mangos, raspberries and papaya are my

I-can-always-eat-them fruits. I eat a LOT of bananas

VEGGIES:

lettuces, onion, celery, carrots, mushrooms, cucumber, radishes,

zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower (broccoli not good the last few

years),

I admit I usually have

everything in salad form (I detest bought dressings, always have,

so I make my own with olive oil, lemon/lime juice, salt, pepper, mustard

and sometimes herbs - usually from my or my friend's organic gardens) I

don't much like cooked veggies but I guess I can adjust while I have

to.

Thanks for any suggestions!

If you understand the parameters of the diet, find some basic items which you can eat, and use those for your intro. The object of the intro diet is to eat easy-to-digest foods and clear out the junk from your

system.

You can't eat anything but fruit in the morning -- if I ate nothing but fruit in the morning, I'd be sicker than a dog. But we're both SCDers. You may find that eating things balanced with protein and fat that your hypoglycemia will level out.

Why not give us a list of SCD legal foods you think you can tolerate. Then we can look at it and make recommendations as to the easiest to digest items.

— Marilyn

[Guest guest]

Marilyn, what a great idea to list my foods for you. I will. Before

that, I will just say that if I eat anything other than fruit before 11AM

it precipitates a day of pain, bloating, and living in the bathroom, plus

terrible headaches and general malaise. In other words, a Really Bad

Day. I've experimented with adding a little oil or a little nut

butter but even they won't work. My chicken is so much the

worse. Lettuce or something like that might work. I can

handle the creamy almond butter at 11, and then the chicken at noon or

later. I've never figured out a clue as to why this is!

OK, my food list:

chicken, turkey - white meat much better because of the fat

almond butter

olive oil

avocado once in awhile

herbs,most -- spices minus a few like cinnamon and turmeric that don't

seem to agree with me (nasty headaches)

FRUITS:

apples, bananas, pears, mangos, papayas, pears, grapefruit, lemons/limes

and tangerines (no orange), peaches, cherries, nectarines, plums, melons,

kiwi, berries (no blueberries right now).

I have to watch quantities of

citrus and stone fruits re bowel activity but otherwise I can pretty much

have all

fruits

except orange, pineapple

and strawberries as they give me a rash).

Bananas, apples, mangos, raspberries and papaya are my

I-can-always-eat-them fruits. I eat a LOT of bananas

VEGGIES:

lettuces, onion, celery, carrots, mushrooms, cucumber, radishes,

zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower (broccoli not good the last few

years),

I admit I usually have

everything in salad form (I detest bought dressings, always have,

so I make my own with olive oil, lemon/lime juice, salt, pepper, mustard

and sometimes herbs - usually from my or my friend's organic gardens) I

don't much like cooked veggies but I guess I can adjust while I have

to.

Thanks for any suggestions!

If you understand the parameters of the diet, find some basic items which you can eat, and use those for your intro. The object of the intro diet is to eat easy-to-digest foods and clear out the junk from your

system.

You can't eat anything but fruit in the morning -- if I ate nothing but fruit in the morning, I'd be sicker than a dog. But we're both SCDers. You may find that eating things balanced with protein and fat that your hypoglycemia will level out.

Why not give us a list of SCD legal foods you think you can tolerate. Then we can look at it and make recommendations as to the easiest to digest items.

— Marilyn

[Guest guest]

Marilyn, what a great idea to list my foods for you. I will. Before

that, I will just say that if I eat anything other than fruit before 11AM

it precipitates a day of pain, bloating, and living in the bathroom, plus

terrible headaches and general malaise. In other words, a Really Bad

Day. I've experimented with adding a little oil or a little nut

butter but even they won't work. My chicken is so much the

worse. Lettuce or something like that might work. I can

handle the creamy almond butter at 11, and then the chicken at noon or

later. I've never figured out a clue as to why this is!

OK, my food list:

chicken, turkey - white meat much better because of the fat

almond butter

olive oil

avocado once in awhile

herbs,most -- spices minus a few like cinnamon and turmeric that don't

seem to agree with me (nasty headaches)

FRUITS:

apples, bananas, pears, mangos, papayas, pears, grapefruit, lemons/limes

and tangerines (no orange), peaches, cherries, nectarines, plums, melons,

kiwi, berries (no blueberries right now).

I have to watch quantities of

citrus and stone fruits re bowel activity but otherwise I can pretty much

have all

fruits

except orange, pineapple

and strawberries as they give me a rash).

Bananas, apples, mangos, raspberries and papaya are my

I-can-always-eat-them fruits. I eat a LOT of bananas

VEGGIES:

lettuces, onion, celery, carrots, mushrooms, cucumber, radishes,

zucchini, cabbage, cauliflower (broccoli not good the last few

years),

I admit I usually have

everything in salad form (I detest bought dressings, always have,

so I make my own with olive oil, lemon/lime juice, salt, pepper, mustard

and sometimes herbs - usually from my or my friend's organic gardens) I

don't much like cooked veggies but I guess I can adjust while I have

to.

Thanks for any suggestions!

If you understand the parameters of the diet, find some basic items which you can eat, and use those for your intro. The object of the intro diet is to eat easy-to-digest foods and clear out the junk from your

system.

You can't eat anything but fruit in the morning -- if I ate nothing but fruit in the morning, I'd be sicker than a dog. But we're both SCDers. You may find that eating things balanced with protein and fat that your hypoglycemia will level out.

Why not give us a list of SCD legal foods you think you can tolerate. Then we can look at it and make recommendations as to the easiest to digest items.

— Marilyn

[Guest guest]

Ok, you guys have convinced me to do some version of the intro diet, that

is, what I can tolerate. I was figuring that since my gut improved

dramatically in 2-3 days of giving up the rice, I might be slightly ahead

of the game. But, I wasn't and I'll do it. Not this week when

I have to be out to a number of doctor and dentist appointments but when

I have a few days to feel exhausted and cope with anything that needs

coping with.

I was rereading BTVC today and am not sure what I can include in the

chicken soup at first. I may have just not seen it when it's right

there in front of me but I didn't! A variety of easily tolerated

cooked veggies OK? Any chicken in it? Or just the broth and

the carrots you mentioned?

Mara, thanks for the ideas. I will try just the coconut oil and see

how it does. I'm OK with olive oil so oil per se isn't bad for me.

I am allergic to the whole egg. I would call it a regular bad

reaction but since it produces is a bad gut reaction it isn't worth it

for now. Of course I will be thrilled if I can have eggs, or even

part of the egg, back later. I have read about the LDN with great

interest and will consider it though in general medicines that are not a

replacement, like thyroid etc, are dreadful for me even if the

" inactive " ingredients really are inactive for me, and I find

most meds use either or both lactose and cornstarch anyhow. I stuck

to the Asacol all they wanted me to for now and that was two years ago

anyway.

I haven't tried beef or buffalo broth. Since beef is hopelessly harder to

digest than chicken I thought chicken broth would be better but it's

certainly an idea since the broth hasn't got the meat anyhow and we can

get the fat off. I DO have in the freezer a package of deer meat my

neighbor gave me in an effort to help my meager food list. Would that

work as the same idea as buffalo? It's certainly lean and natural and

preservative/sugar etc free as her DH went hunting for it.

Yes, I am definitely multiple chemical sensitive. Alas. Also

fibromyalgia. Probably a few more things I haven't thought to

mention.

One more question. This on the timing of my real true Intro Diet

days. As I said, my food list is entirely legal now I gave up the

rice, and I felt a lot better gut-wise in a few days. Right now I'm

researching finding legal fillers for my supplements and such. With

malabsorption for so many decades I really have to have them though of

course I hope to get rid of the whole pack of supplements later. As you

will understand this is taking some time to learn what's really in

everything and replace them. I assume I should wait for the Real

Intro Diet days until I have all this sorted out so that as much as

possible is totally legal?

I have learned from trying the almond flour that one can't hurry on

adding foods too soon. Promise!

Thanks,

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and

usually goes back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the

intro- from the soup. You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples

very quickly-. Some people only do intro for a few days and then progress

as tolerated. From what I've read here- slow progression is best as one

mistake people make is to eat foods that they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

[Guest guest]

Ok, you guys have convinced me to do some version of the intro diet, that

is, what I can tolerate. I was figuring that since my gut improved

dramatically in 2-3 days of giving up the rice, I might be slightly ahead

of the game. But, I wasn't and I'll do it. Not this week when

I have to be out to a number of doctor and dentist appointments but when

I have a few days to feel exhausted and cope with anything that needs

coping with.

I was rereading BTVC today and am not sure what I can include in the

chicken soup at first. I may have just not seen it when it's right

there in front of me but I didn't! A variety of easily tolerated

cooked veggies OK? Any chicken in it? Or just the broth and

the carrots you mentioned?

Mara, thanks for the ideas. I will try just the coconut oil and see

how it does. I'm OK with olive oil so oil per se isn't bad for me.

I am allergic to the whole egg. I would call it a regular bad

reaction but since it produces is a bad gut reaction it isn't worth it

for now. Of course I will be thrilled if I can have eggs, or even

part of the egg, back later. I have read about the LDN with great

interest and will consider it though in general medicines that are not a

replacement, like thyroid etc, are dreadful for me even if the

" inactive " ingredients really are inactive for me, and I find

most meds use either or both lactose and cornstarch anyhow. I stuck

to the Asacol all they wanted me to for now and that was two years ago

anyway.

I haven't tried beef or buffalo broth. Since beef is hopelessly harder to

digest than chicken I thought chicken broth would be better but it's

certainly an idea since the broth hasn't got the meat anyhow and we can

get the fat off. I DO have in the freezer a package of deer meat my

neighbor gave me in an effort to help my meager food list. Would that

work as the same idea as buffalo? It's certainly lean and natural and

preservative/sugar etc free as her DH went hunting for it.

Yes, I am definitely multiple chemical sensitive. Alas. Also

fibromyalgia. Probably a few more things I haven't thought to

mention.

One more question. This on the timing of my real true Intro Diet

days. As I said, my food list is entirely legal now I gave up the

rice, and I felt a lot better gut-wise in a few days. Right now I'm

researching finding legal fillers for my supplements and such. With

malabsorption for so many decades I really have to have them though of

course I hope to get rid of the whole pack of supplements later. As you

will understand this is taking some time to learn what's really in

everything and replace them. I assume I should wait for the Real

Intro Diet days until I have all this sorted out so that as much as

possible is totally legal?

I have learned from trying the almond flour that one can't hurry on

adding foods too soon. Promise!

Thanks,

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and

usually goes back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the

intro- from the soup. You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples

very quickly-. Some people only do intro for a few days and then progress

as tolerated. From what I've read here- slow progression is best as one

mistake people make is to eat foods that they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

[Guest guest]

Ok, you guys have convinced me to do some version of the intro diet, that

is, what I can tolerate. I was figuring that since my gut improved

dramatically in 2-3 days of giving up the rice, I might be slightly ahead

of the game. But, I wasn't and I'll do it. Not this week when

I have to be out to a number of doctor and dentist appointments but when

I have a few days to feel exhausted and cope with anything that needs

coping with.

I was rereading BTVC today and am not sure what I can include in the

chicken soup at first. I may have just not seen it when it's right

there in front of me but I didn't! A variety of easily tolerated

cooked veggies OK? Any chicken in it? Or just the broth and

the carrots you mentioned?

Mara, thanks for the ideas. I will try just the coconut oil and see

how it does. I'm OK with olive oil so oil per se isn't bad for me.

I am allergic to the whole egg. I would call it a regular bad

reaction but since it produces is a bad gut reaction it isn't worth it

for now. Of course I will be thrilled if I can have eggs, or even

part of the egg, back later. I have read about the LDN with great

interest and will consider it though in general medicines that are not a

replacement, like thyroid etc, are dreadful for me even if the

" inactive " ingredients really are inactive for me, and I find

most meds use either or both lactose and cornstarch anyhow. I stuck

to the Asacol all they wanted me to for now and that was two years ago

anyway.

I haven't tried beef or buffalo broth. Since beef is hopelessly harder to

digest than chicken I thought chicken broth would be better but it's

certainly an idea since the broth hasn't got the meat anyhow and we can

get the fat off. I DO have in the freezer a package of deer meat my

neighbor gave me in an effort to help my meager food list. Would that

work as the same idea as buffalo? It's certainly lean and natural and

preservative/sugar etc free as her DH went hunting for it.

Yes, I am definitely multiple chemical sensitive. Alas. Also

fibromyalgia. Probably a few more things I haven't thought to

mention.

One more question. This on the timing of my real true Intro Diet

days. As I said, my food list is entirely legal now I gave up the

rice, and I felt a lot better gut-wise in a few days. Right now I'm

researching finding legal fillers for my supplements and such. With

malabsorption for so many decades I really have to have them though of

course I hope to get rid of the whole pack of supplements later. As you

will understand this is taking some time to learn what's really in

everything and replace them. I assume I should wait for the Real

Intro Diet days until I have all this sorted out so that as much as

possible is totally legal?

I have learned from trying the almond flour that one can't hurry on

adding foods too soon. Promise!

Thanks,

I think everyone who skips the intro diet wishes they didn't and

usually goes back to it at some point. I think carrots are part of the

intro- from the soup. You can add ripe bananas and cooked peeled apples

very quickly-. Some people only do intro for a few days and then progress

as tolerated. From what I've read here- slow progression is best as one

mistake people make is to eat foods that they are not ready for too soon.

PJ

[Guest guest]

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything else and I

set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a headache all day. Clearly

not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in

my intro note.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an entire pan of

it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried sipping chicken broth to

see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The first couple days on the diet, I

could only tolerate the chicken soup with the carrots and chicken blended back

into it with an immersion blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and

moved to an immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken

broth. Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and could make

gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with just this, not with my

hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst thing I can do?

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that eating more

proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time. I've been on SCD 19

months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic episodes where I had one weekly

before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking, headache type feeling. Drink Welch's

diluted 50%

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is mixed, I

never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is not what anyone

else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not runny. It's a bit looser than

usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase because I have all the pain and nausea

and cramps and urgency and have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times.

Very bad days but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it affects my

transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do have the same

D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the symptoms and mushy stuff. I

am still not as regular as I would like to be on SCD, but I have to say that my

stools are much easier to pass and are more frequent than before SCD. Though, I

have Crohn's with C and my Crohn's still isn't in remission. Maybe when I go in

remission, I'll have normal stools. Before Thanksgiving of last year, I felt

like I was in remission and I had very normal stools and then started eating

something illegal that I didn't know was illegal until I was in a flare.

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of what works

for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first phase even entirely

apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on the gelatin and broth and some

of my fat free chicken breast. But after two days of that I would be so

constipated it would be a real problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at

least banana and carrot and applesauce.

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start adding

foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to tolerate. Then

apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start adding. The intro is

just to give your digestive system a break and then to start adding foods

slowly/one at time so you can see what does and doesn't give you symptoms. I

didn't do the intro the first 2 times I started the diet and was not successful.

A month after I started the second time, I found out about the intro and was

much better within days.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 19 months

[Guest guest]

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything else and I

set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a headache all day. Clearly

not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in

my intro note.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an entire pan of

it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried sipping chicken broth to

see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The first couple days on the diet, I

could only tolerate the chicken soup with the carrots and chicken blended back

into it with an immersion blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and

moved to an immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken

broth. Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and could make

gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with just this, not with my

hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst thing I can do?

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that eating more

proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time. I've been on SCD 19

months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic episodes where I had one weekly

before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking, headache type feeling. Drink Welch's

diluted 50%

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is mixed, I

never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is not what anyone

else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not runny. It's a bit looser than

usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase because I have all the pain and nausea

and cramps and urgency and have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times.

Very bad days but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it affects my

transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do have the same

D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the symptoms and mushy stuff. I

am still not as regular as I would like to be on SCD, but I have to say that my

stools are much easier to pass and are more frequent than before SCD. Though, I

have Crohn's with C and my Crohn's still isn't in remission. Maybe when I go in

remission, I'll have normal stools. Before Thanksgiving of last year, I felt

like I was in remission and I had very normal stools and then started eating

something illegal that I didn't know was illegal until I was in a flare.

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of what works

for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first phase even entirely

apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on the gelatin and broth and some

of my fat free chicken breast. But after two days of that I would be so

constipated it would be a real problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at

least banana and carrot and applesauce.

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start adding

foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to tolerate. Then

apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start adding. The intro is

just to give your digestive system a break and then to start adding foods

slowly/one at time so you can see what does and doesn't give you symptoms. I

didn't do the intro the first 2 times I started the diet and was not successful.

A month after I started the second time, I found out about the intro and was

much better within days.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 19 months

[Guest guest]

> First of all, I cannot eat anything but fruit until 11AM. Anything else and I

set off the gut and have miserable pain all over and a headache all day. Clearly

not worth it. Next, I can't eat any dairy or eggs or fish, like I mentioned in

my intro note.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an entire pan of

it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried sipping chicken broth to

see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The first couple days on the diet, I

could only tolerate the chicken soup with the carrots and chicken blended back

into it with an immersion blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and

moved to an immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken

broth. Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

> I can make legal chicken soup, I use the Welch's grape juice OK and could make

gelatin. No way can I get through a couple of days with just this, not with my

hypoglycemia. So, what's the least worst thing I can do?

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that eating more

proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time. I've been on SCD 19

months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic episodes where I had one weekly

before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking, headache type feeling. Drink Welch's

diluted 50%

> I am not coming to SCD from diarrhea, much less bloody. My IBS is mixed, I

never know what is going to happen. But my diarrhea part is not what anyone

else would call diarrhea, really, as it's not runny. It's a bit looser than

usual, but I call it my diarrhea phase because I have all the pain and nausea

and cramps and urgency and have to " go " 6-8-10-12 or who knows how many times.

Very bad days but not technically D. Perhaps this is because my lower bowel is

three feet too long, as I found out at my first colonoscopy, and it affects my

transit time? Really, C is more my lifelong problem.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do have the same

D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the symptoms and mushy stuff. I

am still not as regular as I would like to be on SCD, but I have to say that my

stools are much easier to pass and are more frequent than before SCD. Though, I

have Crohn's with C and my Crohn's still isn't in remission. Maybe when I go in

remission, I'll have normal stools. Before Thanksgiving of last year, I felt

like I was in remission and I had very normal stools and then started eating

something illegal that I didn't know was illegal until I was in a flare.

> So actually, since over the years I have already worked out most of what works

for me and it's legal, except the rice, does the first phase even entirely

apply to me? I think I might be able to do it on the gelatin and broth and some

of my fat free chicken breast. But after two days of that I would be so

constipated it would be a real problem. I think I'd be a lot better with at

least banana and carrot and applesauce.

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start adding

foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to tolerate. Then

apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start adding. The intro is

just to give your digestive system a break and then to start adding foods

slowly/one at time so you can see what does and doesn't give you symptoms. I

didn't do the intro the first 2 times I started the diet and was not successful.

A month after I started the second time, I found out about the intro and was

much better within days.

Misty Kimble

CD - no meds

SCD - 19 months

[Guest guest]

The grape gelatiin is a good idea for soon. I have tried it in the

morning and alas, no, it still causes problems. So I think I will do the

intro without it but try that pretty soon after intro. Chicken

broth in the morning? Not sure. I could try some cautiously when I have a

couple of days to recover, as I sort out and get better supplements that

are legal, etc. I know the bland chicken doesn't work but of course

that's not the same thing as broth. The sooner I can be getting

some protein in the morning the better, I know. This fruit only business

makes me a very slow starter! Since I eat frquently mornings are

really the only time I have hypoglycemia troubles now; for a few years

after I found out about the hypoglycemia I did eat a good protein

breakfast and of course that helped. Until my real troubles hit so fast

and hard! Fortunately even with just the fruit in the morning I

don't get a bad reaction, just tired and draggy and hungry, not a full

reaction.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an

entire pan of it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried

sipping chicken broth to see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The

first couple days on the diet, I could only tolerate the chicken soup

with the carrots and chicken blended back into it with an immersion

blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and moved to an

immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken broth.

Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that

eating more proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time.

I've been on SCD 19 months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic

episodes where I had one weekly before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking,

headache type feeling. Drink Welch's diluted 50%

Actually, until 27 years ago when the IBS etc hit, C was my lifelong

problem and very likely because, as I found out with my first

colonoscopy, my lower bowel is three feet longer than normal and he said

that would of course affect transit time. So I don't know what I'll have

after I've been on SCD for awhile. But even just dumping the rice a

couple of weeks ago calmed things down a LOT. Which was

encouraging.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do

have the same D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the

symptoms and mushy stuff.

OK, this sounds very doable. I can do the intro for a couple of

days and then I am sure the things that I know I tolerate now even on bad

days should be OK. It'll just be a little more boring than my diet

is already. When I had my appendix out in 1992, they had to go hunt for

it as it was in the wrong place like my father's was, and I had a huge

scar for some years as I guess they had to pull all my guts out to find

it. When I left the hospital the excellent nurse giving me discharge

instructions suggested that with my gut troubles I should pureee my food

for two weeks, which I did. It was a bit boring texture-wise, but

it certainly kept me from having additional problems. '

Thanks for the ideas,

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start

adding foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to

tolerate. Then apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start

adding. The intro is just to give your digestive system a break and then

to start adding foods slowly/one at time so you can see what does and

doesn't give you symptoms. I didn't do the intro the first 2 times I

started the diet and was not successful. A month after I started the

second time, I found out about the intro and was much better within days.

Misty Kimble

[Guest guest]

The grape gelatiin is a good idea for soon. I have tried it in the

morning and alas, no, it still causes problems. So I think I will do the

intro without it but try that pretty soon after intro. Chicken

broth in the morning? Not sure. I could try some cautiously when I have a

couple of days to recover, as I sort out and get better supplements that

are legal, etc. I know the bland chicken doesn't work but of course

that's not the same thing as broth. The sooner I can be getting

some protein in the morning the better, I know. This fruit only business

makes me a very slow starter! Since I eat frquently mornings are

really the only time I have hypoglycemia troubles now; for a few years

after I found out about the hypoglycemia I did eat a good protein

breakfast and of course that helped. Until my real troubles hit so fast

and hard! Fortunately even with just the fruit in the morning I

don't get a bad reaction, just tired and draggy and hungry, not a full

reaction.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an

entire pan of it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried

sipping chicken broth to see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The

first couple days on the diet, I could only tolerate the chicken soup

with the carrots and chicken blended back into it with an immersion

blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and moved to an

immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken broth.

Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that

eating more proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time.

I've been on SCD 19 months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic

episodes where I had one weekly before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking,

headache type feeling. Drink Welch's diluted 50%

Actually, until 27 years ago when the IBS etc hit, C was my lifelong

problem and very likely because, as I found out with my first

colonoscopy, my lower bowel is three feet longer than normal and he said

that would of course affect transit time. So I don't know what I'll have

after I've been on SCD for awhile. But even just dumping the rice a

couple of weeks ago calmed things down a LOT. Which was

encouraging.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do

have the same D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the

symptoms and mushy stuff.

OK, this sounds very doable. I can do the intro for a couple of

days and then I am sure the things that I know I tolerate now even on bad

days should be OK. It'll just be a little more boring than my diet

is already. When I had my appendix out in 1992, they had to go hunt for

it as it was in the wrong place like my father's was, and I had a huge

scar for some years as I guess they had to pull all my guts out to find

it. When I left the hospital the excellent nurse giving me discharge

instructions suggested that with my gut troubles I should pureee my food

for two weeks, which I did. It was a bit boring texture-wise, but

it certainly kept me from having additional problems. '

Thanks for the ideas,

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start

adding foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to

tolerate. Then apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start

adding. The intro is just to give your digestive system a break and then

to start adding foods slowly/one at time so you can see what does and

doesn't give you symptoms. I didn't do the intro the first 2 times I

started the diet and was not successful. A month after I started the

second time, I found out about the intro and was much better within days.

Misty Kimble

[Guest guest]

The grape gelatiin is a good idea for soon. I have tried it in the

morning and alas, no, it still causes problems. So I think I will do the

intro without it but try that pretty soon after intro. Chicken

broth in the morning? Not sure. I could try some cautiously when I have a

couple of days to recover, as I sort out and get better supplements that

are legal, etc. I know the bland chicken doesn't work but of course

that's not the same thing as broth. The sooner I can be getting

some protein in the morning the better, I know. This fruit only business

makes me a very slow starter! Since I eat frquently mornings are

really the only time I have hypoglycemia troubles now; for a few years

after I found out about the hypoglycemia I did eat a good protein

breakfast and of course that helped. Until my real troubles hit so fast

and hard! Fortunately even with just the fruit in the morning I

don't get a bad reaction, just tired and draggy and hungry, not a full

reaction.

The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an

entire pan of it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried

sipping chicken broth to see if you can tolerate it in the morning. The

first couple days on the diet, I could only tolerate the chicken soup

with the carrots and chicken blended back into it with an immersion

blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and moved to an

immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick chicken broth.

Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had to remove the

onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that

eating more proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the time.

I've been on SCD 19 months and have only had maybe 10 hypoglycemic

episodes where I had one weekly before. I'm mean the nauseous, shaking,

headache type feeling. Drink Welch's diluted 50%

Actually, until 27 years ago when the IBS etc hit, C was my lifelong

problem and very likely because, as I found out with my first

colonoscopy, my lower bowel is three feet longer than normal and he said

that would of course affect transit time. So I don't know what I'll have

after I've been on SCD for awhile. But even just dumping the rice a

couple of weeks ago calmed things down a LOT. Which was

encouraging.

C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do

have the same D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the

symptoms and mushy stuff.

OK, this sounds very doable. I can do the intro for a couple of

days and then I am sure the things that I know I tolerate now even on bad

days should be OK. It'll just be a little more boring than my diet

is already. When I had my appendix out in 1992, they had to go hunt for

it as it was in the wrong place like my father's was, and I had a huge

scar for some years as I guess they had to pull all my guts out to find

it. When I left the hospital the excellent nurse giving me discharge

instructions suggested that with my gut troubles I should pureee my food

for two weeks, which I did. It was a bit boring texture-wise, but

it certainly kept me from having additional problems. '

Thanks for the ideas,

You are only supposed to stay intro for a couple days and then start

adding foods in. Carrots and overripe bananas were the easiest for me to

tolerate. Then apples. So, you could do the intro for 2 days then start

adding. The intro is just to give your digestive system a break and then

to start adding foods slowly/one at time so you can see what does and

doesn't give you symptoms. I didn't do the intro the first 2 times I

started the diet and was not successful. A month after I started the

second time, I found out about the intro and was much better within days.

Misty Kimble

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

Good suggestions and I thank you very much. I think my best intro diet

and early diet is the things I know work for me on bad days, but I'll

cook them for awhile. I much envy those of you who can eat a lot of

protein. I was unable to eat any protein, any source, for about

twenty years, and even now cannot have very much. Like a half an ounce to

an ounce usually, never more than two ounces. Otherwise that makes

me sick. I do not (or did not when tested some time ago) produce any

hydrochloric acid in my stomach so I have to take HCl when I eat protein,

but somehow that isn't good enough to eat a lot of meat. This is why I am

pretty touchy on that. Maybe later!

Yes, C is my lifelong problem, just with the mixed IBS overlaid on it the

last 27 years. It does make things complicated. I think the

spinach is a good idea. I love it but have had to watch the laxative

effect of greens. Maybe if the D calms down then I can have greens

again!

I do take probiotics, have for ages. Of course the one I've been taking

has too many things in it so I just got one with just acidophilus and

will get one with the boulardii in it as well. I think I saw that

on one of the SCD sites. It's a good idea to take extra, more than

just one in the morning, thanks.

I've figure out a scheme to start making a list/spreadsheet with the

supplements I take, ingredients, phone numbers and addresses and start

contacting them all to get exact ingredients so I'll get started on that

today.

[Guest guest]

Hi Terry,

Good suggestions and I thank you very much. I think my best intro diet

and early diet is the things I know work for me on bad days, but I'll

cook them for awhile. I much envy those of you who can eat a lot of

protein. I was unable to eat any protein, any source, for about

twenty years, and even now cannot have very much. Like a half an ounce to

an ounce usually, never more than two ounces. Otherwise that makes

me sick. I do not (or did not when tested some time ago) produce any

hydrochloric acid in my stomach so I have to take HCl when I eat protein,

but somehow that isn't good enough to eat a lot of meat. This is why I am

pretty touchy on that. Maybe later!

Yes, C is my lifelong problem, just with the mixed IBS overlaid on it the

last 27 years. It does make things complicated. I think the

spinach is a good idea. I love it but have had to watch the laxative

effect of greens. Maybe if the D calms down then I can have greens

again!

I do take probiotics, have for ages. Of course the one I've been taking

has too many things in it so I just got one with just acidophilus and

will get one with the boulardii in it as well. I think I saw that

on one of the SCD sites. It's a good idea to take extra, more than

just one in the morning, thanks.

I've figure out a scheme to start making a list/spreadsheet with the

supplements I take, ingredients, phone numbers and addresses and start

contacting them all to get exact ingredients so I'll get started on that

today.

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Kim. I think what you and the others are telling me is very

valuable, that we each have a different body that tolerates different

foods and at different times of day in some cases. I will tailor my

diet accordingly.

Another question: I have a lot of pain to deal with what with one

thing and another, long story, but I noticed that within a few days of

dropping the rice and generally feeling less sick and having fewer bowel

fluctuations, that my pain level really went much higher. I've wondered

if it could be some sort of detoxing, but it's been several weeks now and

when I've had detoxing before it's always just been a few days.

Anyone recognize this?

Thanks,

I learned in the first month on SCD that my body doesn't tolerate

most of the intro. diet food suggestions, so I substituted with foods

that my own body tolerated the best when I was in a symptom flare. The

point of the intro. diet is to eat very easy-to-digest foods (and also

permitted on SCD), generally soft and liquid. Kim

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carol. I have used the good B-complex from Freeda for years

and years,a nd I will check to see if they have other things I can use.

My list is more extensive than I really want to swallow, but has been

necessary for the leaky gut especially as far as osteoporosis and hot

flashes go, plus immune boosters (otherwise I have a virus a good share

of every week) and I have been trying the herbal things for pain though I

don't think they are helping that much. That's a good legal/illegal

list of additives on pecanbread and I'm going to print that out.

Hi , There is a good illegal supplements list at PecanBread.com

You want

to avoid hidden starches and sugars. I use Freeda Vitamins. They are

SCD

compliant. Lucy at LucysKitchenShop.com (you have to call to order)

carries

them, as do a number of other sites.

I mistakenly ingested illegals in my supplements for years. So check

labels

carefully. Or go with an SCD compliant brand.

Carol