Re: Need Help on Intro Diet

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carol. I have used the good B-complex from Freeda for years

and years,a nd I will check to see if they have other things I can use.

My list is more extensive than I really want to swallow, but has been

necessary for the leaky gut especially as far as osteoporosis and hot

flashes go, plus immune boosters (otherwise I have a virus a good share

of every week) and I have been trying the herbal things for pain though I

don't think they are helping that much. That's a good legal/illegal

list of additives on pecanbread and I'm going to print that out.

Hi , There is a good illegal supplements list at PecanBread.com

You want

to avoid hidden starches and sugars. I use Freeda Vitamins. They are

SCD

compliant. Lucy at LucysKitchenShop.com (you have to call to order)

carries

them, as do a number of other sites.

I mistakenly ingested illegals in my supplements for years. So check

labels

carefully. Or go with an SCD compliant brand.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Carol. I have used the good B-complex from Freeda for years

and years,a nd I will check to see if they have other things I can use.

My list is more extensive than I really want to swallow, but has been

necessary for the leaky gut especially as far as osteoporosis and hot

flashes go, plus immune boosters (otherwise I have a virus a good share

of every week) and I have been trying the herbal things for pain though I

don't think they are helping that much. That's a good legal/illegal

list of additives on pecanbread and I'm going to print that out.

Hi , There is a good illegal supplements list at PecanBread.com

You want

to avoid hidden starches and sugars. I use Freeda Vitamins. They are

SCD

compliant. Lucy at LucysKitchenShop.com (you have to call to order)

carries

them, as do a number of other sites.

I mistakenly ingested illegals in my supplements for years. So check

labels

carefully. Or go with an SCD compliant brand.

Carol

[Guest guest]

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to eat something else in the morning?

I ask because I've read that having just fruit in the AM is *really* good for

you because of the way fruit digests. I know that one of the things I was doing

for a while was having a green smoothie (fruit with some green, usually spinach)

thrown in for my breakfast and that would wake me up and keep me going for a

while and I'd bring grapes to work with me as a snack in case I got hungry

before lunch. Of course, everyone's body reacts differently...just thought I'd

share

Stacey

>

>

> The grape gelatiin is a good idea for soon. I have tried it in the

> morning and alas, no, it still causes problems. So I think I will do

> the intro without it but try that pretty soon after intro. Chicken

> broth in the morning? Not sure. I could try some cautiously when I

> have a couple of days to recover, as I sort out and get better

> supplements that are legal, etc. I know the bland chicken doesn't

> work but of course that's not the same thing as broth. The sooner I

> can be getting some protein in the morning the better, I know. This

> fruit only business makes me a very slow starter! Since I eat

> frquently mornings are really the only time I have hypoglycemia

> troubles now; for a few years after I found out about the

> hypoglycemia I did eat a good protein breakfast and of course that

> helped. Until my real troubles hit so fast and hard! Fortunately

> even with just the fruit in the morning I don't get a bad reaction,

> just tired and draggy and hungry, not a full reaction.

>

> The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an

> entire pan of it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried

> sipping chicken broth to see if you can tolerate it in the morning.

> The first couple days on the diet, I could only tolerate the chicken

> soup with the carrots and chicken blended back into it with an

> immersion blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and moved

> to an immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick

> chicken broth. Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had

> to remove the onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

>

> The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that

> eating more proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the

> time. I've been on SCD 19 months and have only had maybe 10

> hypoglycemic episodes where I had one weekly before. I'm mean the

> nauseous, shaking, headache type feeling. Drink Welch's diluted 50%

>

> Actually, until 27 years ago when the IBS etc hit, C was my lifelong

> problem and very likely because, as I found out with my first

> colonoscopy, my lower bowel is three feet longer than normal and he

> said that would of course affect transit time. So I don't know what

> I'll have after I've been on SCD for awhile. But even just dumping

> the rice a couple of weeks ago calmed things down a LOT. Which was

encouraging.

>

> C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do

> have the same D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the

> symptoms and mushy stuff.

>

> OK, this sounds very doable. I can do the intro for a couple of days

> and then I am sure the things that I know I tolerate now even on bad

> days should be OK. It'll just be a little more boring than my diet

> is already. When I had my appendix out in 1992, they had to go hunt

> for it as it was in the wrong place like my father's was, and I had a

> huge scar for some years as I guess they had to pull all my guts out

> to find it. When I left the hospital the excellent nurse giving me

> discharge instructions suggested that with my gut troubles I should

> pureee my food for two weeks, which I did. It was a bit boring

> texture-wise, but it certainly kept me from having additional problems. '

> Thanks for the ideas,

[Guest guest]

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to eat something else in the morning?

I ask because I've read that having just fruit in the AM is *really* good for

you because of the way fruit digests. I know that one of the things I was doing

for a while was having a green smoothie (fruit with some green, usually spinach)

thrown in for my breakfast and that would wake me up and keep me going for a

while and I'd bring grapes to work with me as a snack in case I got hungry

before lunch. Of course, everyone's body reacts differently...just thought I'd

share

Stacey

>

>

> The grape gelatiin is a good idea for soon. I have tried it in the

> morning and alas, no, it still causes problems. So I think I will do

> the intro without it but try that pretty soon after intro. Chicken

> broth in the morning? Not sure. I could try some cautiously when I

> have a couple of days to recover, as I sort out and get better

> supplements that are legal, etc. I know the bland chicken doesn't

> work but of course that's not the same thing as broth. The sooner I

> can be getting some protein in the morning the better, I know. This

> fruit only business makes me a very slow starter! Since I eat

> frquently mornings are really the only time I have hypoglycemia

> troubles now; for a few years after I found out about the

> hypoglycemia I did eat a good protein breakfast and of course that

> helped. Until my real troubles hit so fast and hard! Fortunately

> even with just the fruit in the morning I don't get a bad reaction,

> just tired and draggy and hungry, not a full reaction.

>

> The grape gelatin might be what you need in the morning. I ate an

> entire pan of it every day for the first few weeks. Have you tried

> sipping chicken broth to see if you can tolerate it in the morning.

> The first couple days on the diet, I could only tolerate the chicken

> soup with the carrots and chicken blended back into it with an

> immersion blender (Well, I used a regular blender at first and moved

> to an immersion blender later). So, it was like a really thick

> chicken broth. Me and my daugther still love it made this way. I had

> to remove the onions and celery for at least 2 weeks.

>

> The intro diet actually helped my hyoglycemia so much. I find that

> eating more proteins and less sugars keeps it in check most of the

> time. I've been on SCD 19 months and have only had maybe 10

> hypoglycemic episodes where I had one weekly before. I'm mean the

> nauseous, shaking, headache type feeling. Drink Welch's diluted 50%

>

> Actually, until 27 years ago when the IBS etc hit, C was my lifelong

> problem and very likely because, as I found out with my first

> colonoscopy, my lower bowel is three feet longer than normal and he

> said that would of course affect transit time. So I don't know what

> I'll have after I've been on SCD for awhile. But even just dumping

> the rice a couple of weeks ago calmed things down a LOT. Which was

encouraging.

>

> C has been my problem since I was 18ish. I'm 32 now. Though, I do

> have the same D problems as you. It's not actually D but with the

> symptoms and mushy stuff.

>

> OK, this sounds very doable. I can do the intro for a couple of days

> and then I am sure the things that I know I tolerate now even on bad

> days should be OK. It'll just be a little more boring than my diet

> is already. When I had my appendix out in 1992, they had to go hunt

> for it as it was in the wrong place like my father's was, and I had a

> huge scar for some years as I guess they had to pull all my guts out

> to find it. When I left the hospital the excellent nurse giving me

> discharge instructions suggested that with my gut troubles I should

> pureee my food for two weeks, which I did. It was a bit boring

> texture-wise, but it certainly kept me from having additional problems. '

> Thanks for the ideas,

[Guest guest]

Hey ..

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when I first

dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was dealing with

excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more global view

that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but there are also

bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there is the issue of

biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us that deal with hard

core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue. The housing structures

that the yeast live in.. actually live on post die-off. Those

don't wanna die.

Jodi

> Another question: I have a lot of pain to deal with what with one

> thing and another, long story, but I noticed that within a few days

> of dropping the rice and generally feeling less sick and having fewer

> bowel fluctuations, that my pain level really went much higher. I've

> wondered if it could be some sort of detoxing, but it's been several

> weeks now and when I've had detoxing before it's always just been a

> few days. Anyone recognize this?

[Guest guest]

Hey ..

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when I first

dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was dealing with

excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more global view

that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but there are also

bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there is the issue of

biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us that deal with hard

core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue. The housing structures

that the yeast live in.. actually live on post die-off. Those

don't wanna die.

Jodi

> Another question: I have a lot of pain to deal with what with one

> thing and another, long story, but I noticed that within a few days

> of dropping the rice and generally feeling less sick and having fewer

> bowel fluctuations, that my pain level really went much higher. I've

> wondered if it could be some sort of detoxing, but it's been several

> weeks now and when I've had detoxing before it's always just been a

> few days. Anyone recognize this?

[Guest guest]

Hey ..

I am not sure what you mean.. but my pain increased dramatically when I first

dropped grains and then it was the first thing to go away.. I was dealing with

excruciating bowel and anal pain.

Are you talking about gut pain or like body pain?

Many things can be attributed to die off. I like the idea of a more global view

that the gut ecology is shifting. Yes, bacteria is dying but there are also

bacteria repopulating and many are shifting.. Than there is the issue of

biofilms that we need to get rid of. I think some of us that deal with hard

core stubborn yeast are dealing with a biofilm issue. The housing structures

that the yeast live in.. actually live on post die-off. Those

don't wanna die.

Jodi

> Another question: I have a lot of pain to deal with what with one

> thing and another, long story, but I noticed that within a few days

> of dropping the rice and generally feeling less sick and having fewer

> bowel fluctuations, that my pain level really went much higher. I've

> wondered if it could be some sort of detoxing, but it's been several

> weeks now and when I've had detoxing before it's always just been a

> few days. Anyone recognize this?

[Guest guest]

,

You should just print up in general what supplements you take.

Sometime even legal supplements that are supposed to help can be problematic.

Just an idea.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

I'm not trying now to eat anything else in the morning. I've tried too

often over 27 years and found only fruit works. I would LIKE to

have something else so I don't get so hungry and collect some energy

earlier in the day. I'm really only thinking about it because of

what the diet wants us to do. I suspect I'll be staying with my

fruit for some time until I have evidence that I can change

things.

Mara, yes, you may well be right about me having more trouble with

illegals in the supplements now. I'm working on the problem of replacing

the ones that need replacing. This isn't as instantaneous as I

would like but I can do a lot more research later in the week.

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to eat something else in

the morning? I ask because I've read that having just fruit in the AM is

*really* good for you because of the way fruit digests. I know that one

of the things I was doing for a while was having a green smoothie (fruit

with some green, usually spinach) thrown in for my breakfast and that

would wake me up and keep me going for a while and I'd bring grapes to

work with me as a snack in case I got hungry before lunch. Of course,

everyone's body reacts differently...just thought I'd share Stacey

[Guest guest]

I'm not trying now to eat anything else in the morning. I've tried too

often over 27 years and found only fruit works. I would LIKE to

have something else so I don't get so hungry and collect some energy

earlier in the day. I'm really only thinking about it because of

what the diet wants us to do. I suspect I'll be staying with my

fruit for some time until I have evidence that I can change

things.

Mara, yes, you may well be right about me having more trouble with

illegals in the supplements now. I'm working on the problem of replacing

the ones that need replacing. This isn't as instantaneous as I

would like but I can do a lot more research later in the week.

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to eat something else in

the morning? I ask because I've read that having just fruit in the AM is

*really* good for you because of the way fruit digests. I know that one

of the things I was doing for a while was having a green smoothie (fruit

with some green, usually spinach) thrown in for my breakfast and that

would wake me up and keep me going for a while and I'd bring grapes to

work with me as a snack in case I got hungry before lunch. Of course,

everyone's body reacts differently...just thought I'd share Stacey

[Guest guest]

I'm not trying now to eat anything else in the morning. I've tried too

often over 27 years and found only fruit works. I would LIKE to

have something else so I don't get so hungry and collect some energy

earlier in the day. I'm really only thinking about it because of

what the diet wants us to do. I suspect I'll be staying with my

fruit for some time until I have evidence that I can change

things.

Mara, yes, you may well be right about me having more trouble with

illegals in the supplements now. I'm working on the problem of replacing

the ones that need replacing. This isn't as instantaneous as I

would like but I can do a lot more research later in the week.

Just out of curiosity, why are you trying to eat something else in

the morning? I ask because I've read that having just fruit in the AM is

*really* good for you because of the way fruit digests. I know that one

of the things I was doing for a while was having a green smoothie (fruit

with some green, usually spinach) thrown in for my breakfast and that

would wake me up and keep me going for a while and I'd bring grapes to

work with me as a snack in case I got hungry before lunch. Of course,

everyone's body reacts differently...just thought I'd share Stacey