Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << . I am now 30 years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I won't fit through a door! Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got an RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She had been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant past. I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others who had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until they found what the culprits were. These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a loved one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank God. In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had any/many post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally convinced on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in order to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly possible). I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me --literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a greater degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is morbidly obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her life at the still-young age of 60! I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm of possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in my adult life. I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and re-thought about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery would save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for you if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here who are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through complications but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right to know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care BEFOREHAND. all the best, teresa laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << . I am now 30 years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I won't fit through a door! Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got an RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She had been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant past. I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others who had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until they found what the culprits were. These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a loved one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank God. In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had any/many post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally convinced on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in order to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly possible). I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me --literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a greater degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is morbidly obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her life at the still-young age of 60! I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm of possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in my adult life. I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and re-thought about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery would save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for you if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here who are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through complications but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right to know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care BEFOREHAND. all the best, teresa laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch writes: << . I am now 30 years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I won't fit through a door! Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got an RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She had been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant past. I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others who had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until they found what the culprits were. These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a loved one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank God. In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had any/many post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally convinced on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in order to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly possible). I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me --literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a greater degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is morbidly obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her life at the still-young age of 60! I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm of possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in my adult life. I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and re-thought about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery would save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for you if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here who are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through complications but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right to know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care BEFOREHAND. all the best, teresa laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 > > > Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad > complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death > (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she > had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year woops~ I just read this and it's a typo! My surgery sister did NOT pass away - she was in a coma for 17 days and had a leak/blockage which required a second surgery. I was referring to the other woman on AMOS who DID recently pass away from a blood clot. SHE left behind a husband and two year old son. I can only imagine her family and friends' pain at this loss. She is in my thoughts and prayers. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting Mt. Sinai/NYC January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 > > > Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad > complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death > (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she > had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year woops~ I just read this and it's a typo! My surgery sister did NOT pass away - she was in a coma for 17 days and had a leak/blockage which required a second surgery. I was referring to the other woman on AMOS who DID recently pass away from a blood clot. SHE left behind a husband and two year old son. I can only imagine her family and friends' pain at this loss. She is in my thoughts and prayers. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting Mt. Sinai/NYC January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2001 Report Share Posted April 10, 2001 > > > Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad > complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death > (yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- she > had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two year woops~ I just read this and it's a typo! My surgery sister did NOT pass away - she was in a coma for 17 days and had a leak/blockage which required a second surgery. I was referring to the other woman on AMOS who DID recently pass away from a blood clot. SHE left behind a husband and two year old son. I can only imagine her family and friends' pain at this loss. She is in my thoughts and prayers. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting Mt. Sinai/NYC January Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Dear Joe, I have especially enjoyed reading your posts since I've joined the group. I guess I like the way you put things and your positive attitude shows. That " s what I'm working on now that I have approval and a date. I'm very excited but very scared. I 'm trying to find things to read that will help. I've printed 100 reasons to lose 100 pounds ( I think from Heidi's site) and I want to bring it with me to the hospital for a reminder when I'm asking why I did this to myself. I would like to ask you - and everyone else (I never mean to exclude anyone) if there are any numbers printed anywhere concerning complications:successes. I 'm glad that you wrote that there have been thousands who have had this surgery successfully. That really helped and that's the type thing that I'm looking for. I'd appreciate hearing if you have any suggestions and I thank you very much! Joann in Mobile 04/20/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Dear Joe, I have especially enjoyed reading your posts since I've joined the group. I guess I like the way you put things and your positive attitude shows. That " s what I'm working on now that I have approval and a date. I'm very excited but very scared. I 'm trying to find things to read that will help. I've printed 100 reasons to lose 100 pounds ( I think from Heidi's site) and I want to bring it with me to the hospital for a reminder when I'm asking why I did this to myself. I would like to ask you - and everyone else (I never mean to exclude anyone) if there are any numbers printed anywhere concerning complications:successes. I 'm glad that you wrote that there have been thousands who have had this surgery successfully. That really helped and that's the type thing that I'm looking for. I'd appreciate hearing if you have any suggestions and I thank you very much! Joann in Mobile 04/20/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Dear Joe, I have especially enjoyed reading your posts since I've joined the group. I guess I like the way you put things and your positive attitude shows. That " s what I'm working on now that I have approval and a date. I'm very excited but very scared. I 'm trying to find things to read that will help. I've printed 100 reasons to lose 100 pounds ( I think from Heidi's site) and I want to bring it with me to the hospital for a reminder when I'm asking why I did this to myself. I would like to ask you - and everyone else (I never mean to exclude anyone) if there are any numbers printed anywhere concerning complications:successes. I 'm glad that you wrote that there have been thousands who have had this surgery successfully. That really helped and that's the type thing that I'm looking for. I'd appreciate hearing if you have any suggestions and I thank you very much! Joann in Mobile 04/20/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60?>>>> : It IS scary. It IS Major surgery. However, I don't have regrets about doing it. I don't really see how my life span will be significantly shortened (although that remains to be seen and would remain to be seen even if I didn't have the surgery). I think proper aftercare, eating right, exercising, etc. will help us 'keep on track'. The only real scary thing for me was realizing how much I would need lifetime aftercare. It isn't easy to know that you have a 'condition' which requires regular checkups, supplementation, etc. and that is by CHOICE. You really, really have to weigh the long term side effects of being morbidly obese --- And how THAT can shorten one's life span. How will you be able to function normally at 60 with all that extra weight, the possibility of diabetes/high cholesterol-blood pressure, arthritis, etc? How will you be able to move around? I see my mother at 60 not really being able to do much of anything and know I DON'T want to live like that. I think that post-ops will definately be able to function normally at 60 --- especially if they take their supplementations, get the adjusted as needed, get their protein in/eat well, etc. The main point I was trying to make in my response wasn't to share people into NOT having surgery -- but to have them realize the importance of aftercare! I can definately live with aftercare and supplementation.... and I definately chose this over a life of being morbidly obese and increasingly being unable to move around and develop various health problems related to obesity that already were in my family. The best news is that our bodies DO adjust and adapt to the surgery. Of course, this is highly individual and no one can predict (yet) who will and who won't adjust and what kind of problems he/she may face along the road. But, in general, our common channels do elongate, become thicker, etc. in order to maximize absorption. Our intestines do adapt, even though they will never be as proficient as they were pre-op. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60?>>>> : It IS scary. It IS Major surgery. However, I don't have regrets about doing it. I don't really see how my life span will be significantly shortened (although that remains to be seen and would remain to be seen even if I didn't have the surgery). I think proper aftercare, eating right, exercising, etc. will help us 'keep on track'. The only real scary thing for me was realizing how much I would need lifetime aftercare. It isn't easy to know that you have a 'condition' which requires regular checkups, supplementation, etc. and that is by CHOICE. You really, really have to weigh the long term side effects of being morbidly obese --- And how THAT can shorten one's life span. How will you be able to function normally at 60 with all that extra weight, the possibility of diabetes/high cholesterol-blood pressure, arthritis, etc? How will you be able to move around? I see my mother at 60 not really being able to do much of anything and know I DON'T want to live like that. I think that post-ops will definately be able to function normally at 60 --- especially if they take their supplementations, get the adjusted as needed, get their protein in/eat well, etc. The main point I was trying to make in my response wasn't to share people into NOT having surgery -- but to have them realize the importance of aftercare! I can definately live with aftercare and supplementation.... and I definately chose this over a life of being morbidly obese and increasingly being unable to move around and develop various health problems related to obesity that already were in my family. The best news is that our bodies DO adjust and adapt to the surgery. Of course, this is highly individual and no one can predict (yet) who will and who won't adjust and what kind of problems he/she may face along the road. But, in general, our common channels do elongate, become thicker, etc. in order to maximize absorption. Our intestines do adapt, even though they will never be as proficient as they were pre-op. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60?>>>> : It IS scary. It IS Major surgery. However, I don't have regrets about doing it. I don't really see how my life span will be significantly shortened (although that remains to be seen and would remain to be seen even if I didn't have the surgery). I think proper aftercare, eating right, exercising, etc. will help us 'keep on track'. The only real scary thing for me was realizing how much I would need lifetime aftercare. It isn't easy to know that you have a 'condition' which requires regular checkups, supplementation, etc. and that is by CHOICE. You really, really have to weigh the long term side effects of being morbidly obese --- And how THAT can shorten one's life span. How will you be able to function normally at 60 with all that extra weight, the possibility of diabetes/high cholesterol-blood pressure, arthritis, etc? How will you be able to move around? I see my mother at 60 not really being able to do much of anything and know I DON'T want to live like that. I think that post-ops will definately be able to function normally at 60 --- especially if they take their supplementations, get the adjusted as needed, get their protein in/eat well, etc. The main point I was trying to make in my response wasn't to share people into NOT having surgery -- but to have them realize the importance of aftercare! I can definately live with aftercare and supplementation.... and I definately chose this over a life of being morbidly obese and increasingly being unable to move around and develop various health problems related to obesity that already were in my family. The best news is that our bodies DO adjust and adapt to the surgery. Of course, this is highly individual and no one can predict (yet) who will and who won't adjust and what kind of problems he/she may face along the road. But, in general, our common channels do elongate, become thicker, etc. in order to maximize absorption. Our intestines do adapt, even though they will never be as proficient as they were pre-op. all the best, laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC January 25, 2001 77 days post-op and still feelin' fab! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Jenn: Your concerns are normal. You say " I am still torn over whether or not to go for it. " If you have serious doubts, wait. This is major abdominal surgery and complications can happen. Surgery should be the last resort. If there's a diet, a food plan, an exercise program in which you have any hope, try it first. The primary concern is immediate post-op complications, not the 5 to 15 year out ones. You can get leaks in the suture or staple lines, blood clots, and other things. But they mostly occur within a month or so of the surgery. Out further there are chemical imbalances, but those are fairly easily cured IF you get your blood work done religiously and address any problems in a timely manner. You say that this surgery is fairly new. I'd point out that Dr. Hess and many others have been doing it for well over 10 years and thousands have been done safely. And there are hundreds of cases of people who have successful pregnancies after surgery. Most surgeons require that you wait one to two years after the surgery to get pregnant but there's no reason you couldn't do it at your age. Yes, people have died from blood clots. But they've died from blood clots from all sorts of surgeries. It doesn't seem any more prevalent with the DS than with any major abdominal surgery but you can't say it won't happen. You can say it is very rare. Discuss this with Dr. Anthone. I came as close to dying as anyone I know of who has had this surgery. And yet I would have the surgery again in a heartbeat. In fact my wife got the very same surgery five days after I got out of the hospital. IF you feel this surgery is a last resort for you, that you simply can't lose and keep the weight off any other way, definitely go for it. And take all the very worst questions you can come up with to Dr. Anthone. He can handle them. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Pre-Op Questions > Hi everyone, > > I am a new member to the group and just had my first consultation yesterday > for the DS surgery with Dr. Anthone at USC in Los Angeles. I didn't sleep a > wink last night and could use some encouraging post op stories as I am still > torn over whether or not to go for it. I really want to but am scared of the > side affects and post-op complications. Also, since this surgery is fairly > new, I am scared as to what may happen when I am 50, 60, etc... I am now 30 > years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just > can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my > own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I > won't fit through a door! > > Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died > from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! > > Jenn > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Jenn: Your concerns are normal. You say " I am still torn over whether or not to go for it. " If you have serious doubts, wait. This is major abdominal surgery and complications can happen. Surgery should be the last resort. If there's a diet, a food plan, an exercise program in which you have any hope, try it first. The primary concern is immediate post-op complications, not the 5 to 15 year out ones. You can get leaks in the suture or staple lines, blood clots, and other things. But they mostly occur within a month or so of the surgery. Out further there are chemical imbalances, but those are fairly easily cured IF you get your blood work done religiously and address any problems in a timely manner. You say that this surgery is fairly new. I'd point out that Dr. Hess and many others have been doing it for well over 10 years and thousands have been done safely. And there are hundreds of cases of people who have successful pregnancies after surgery. Most surgeons require that you wait one to two years after the surgery to get pregnant but there's no reason you couldn't do it at your age. Yes, people have died from blood clots. But they've died from blood clots from all sorts of surgeries. It doesn't seem any more prevalent with the DS than with any major abdominal surgery but you can't say it won't happen. You can say it is very rare. Discuss this with Dr. Anthone. I came as close to dying as anyone I know of who has had this surgery. And yet I would have the surgery again in a heartbeat. In fact my wife got the very same surgery five days after I got out of the hospital. IF you feel this surgery is a last resort for you, that you simply can't lose and keep the weight off any other way, definitely go for it. And take all the very worst questions you can come up with to Dr. Anthone. He can handle them. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Pre-Op Questions > Hi everyone, > > I am a new member to the group and just had my first consultation yesterday > for the DS surgery with Dr. Anthone at USC in Los Angeles. I didn't sleep a > wink last night and could use some encouraging post op stories as I am still > torn over whether or not to go for it. I really want to but am scared of the > side affects and post-op complications. Also, since this surgery is fairly > new, I am scared as to what may happen when I am 50, 60, etc... I am now 30 > years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just > can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my > own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I > won't fit through a door! > > Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died > from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! > > Jenn > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Jenn: Your concerns are normal. You say " I am still torn over whether or not to go for it. " If you have serious doubts, wait. This is major abdominal surgery and complications can happen. Surgery should be the last resort. If there's a diet, a food plan, an exercise program in which you have any hope, try it first. The primary concern is immediate post-op complications, not the 5 to 15 year out ones. You can get leaks in the suture or staple lines, blood clots, and other things. But they mostly occur within a month or so of the surgery. Out further there are chemical imbalances, but those are fairly easily cured IF you get your blood work done religiously and address any problems in a timely manner. You say that this surgery is fairly new. I'd point out that Dr. Hess and many others have been doing it for well over 10 years and thousands have been done safely. And there are hundreds of cases of people who have successful pregnancies after surgery. Most surgeons require that you wait one to two years after the surgery to get pregnant but there's no reason you couldn't do it at your age. Yes, people have died from blood clots. But they've died from blood clots from all sorts of surgeries. It doesn't seem any more prevalent with the DS than with any major abdominal surgery but you can't say it won't happen. You can say it is very rare. Discuss this with Dr. Anthone. I came as close to dying as anyone I know of who has had this surgery. And yet I would have the surgery again in a heartbeat. In fact my wife got the very same surgery five days after I got out of the hospital. IF you feel this surgery is a last resort for you, that you simply can't lose and keep the weight off any other way, definitely go for it. And take all the very worst questions you can come up with to Dr. Anthone. He can handle them. Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fart San , TX, 60 years old Dr. Welker 340 starting weight, currently 260 http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html Pre-Op Questions > Hi everyone, > > I am a new member to the group and just had my first consultation yesterday > for the DS surgery with Dr. Anthone at USC in Los Angeles. I didn't sleep a > wink last night and could use some encouraging post op stories as I am still > torn over whether or not to go for it. I really want to but am scared of the > side affects and post-op complications. Also, since this surgery is fairly > new, I am scared as to what may happen when I am 50, 60, etc... I am now 30 > years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > & 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just > can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like my > own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I > won't fit through a door! > > Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died > from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! > > Jenn > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60? >From: ruisha@... >Reply-To: duodenalswitch >To: duodenalswitch >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch >writes: > ><< . I am now 30 >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just >can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like >my >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I >won't fit through a door! > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- >she >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two >year >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got >an >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She >had >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). >Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant >past. > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, >inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant >companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others >who >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until >they found what the culprits were. > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a >loved >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have >come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank >God. >In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had >any/many >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) > >I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's >decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally >convinced >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in >order >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly >possible). > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or >facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me >--literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a >greater >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is >morbidly >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her >life at the still-young age of 60! > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm >of >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in >my >adult life. > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At >times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony >they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and >re-thought >about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery >would >save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* >become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for >you >if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here >who >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone >experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many >people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through >complications >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right >to >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care >BEFOREHAND. > >all the best, >teresa >laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal >Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC >January 25, 2001 >75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! >pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) >now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60? >From: ruisha@... >Reply-To: duodenalswitch >To: duodenalswitch >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch >writes: > ><< . I am now 30 >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just >can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like >my >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I >won't fit through a door! > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- >she >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two >year >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got >an >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She >had >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). >Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant >past. > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, >inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant >companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others >who >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until >they found what the culprits were. > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a >loved >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have >come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank >God. >In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had >any/many >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) > >I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's >decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally >convinced >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in >order >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly >possible). > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or >facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me >--literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a >greater >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is >morbidly >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her >life at the still-young age of 60! > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm >of >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in >my >adult life. > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At >times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony >they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and >re-thought >about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery >would >save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* >become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for >you >if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here >who >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone >experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many >people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through >complications >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right >to >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care >BEFOREHAND. > >all the best, >teresa >laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal >Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC >January 25, 2001 >75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! >pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) >now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. What most concerns me actually is the long term side affects and will I function normally when I'm 60? >From: ruisha@... >Reply-To: duodenalswitch >To: duodenalswitch >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, duodenalswitch >writes: > ><< . I am now 30 >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 step-kids who I am mommy to (8 >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me to swim, and I just >can't. I also want to have my own children (although they really are like >my >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get pregnant at this weight or I >won't fit through a door! > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of anyone who actually died >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people experiencing extremely bad >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, extended comas/near death >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in a coma for 17 days --- >she >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left behind a husband and a two >year >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying of blot clots in the >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the AMOS boards - she got >an >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on this list)... > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 months post-op. She >had >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a host of other problems, >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away as a direct result of the >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden blood infection - sepsis). >Someone else from the list passed away after surgery not in the distant >past. > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe diahhrea, dehydration, >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe painful/odiferous gas, >inability to get enough protein in, experienced nausea as a rather constant >companion in the months following their surgeries. I've known of others >who >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for quite some time until >they found what the culprits were. > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics of things, they are >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone trying to cope with a >loved >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare oneself for the possible >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look at those of us who have >come through with flying colors -- I am a living example of this, Thank >God. >In addition, here are many, many others on the list who have not had >any/many >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have come through them and >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and save their lives. :) > >I would never try to make up another person's mind or claim that everyone's >decision would be similar to my own. One really has to be totally >convinced >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is a viable option in >order >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur afterwards in order to go >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as prepared as is humanly >possible). > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The thought of leaving them or >facing long term complications from the surgery scared the HELL out of me >--literally. I would never want to put them in jeapordy or leave them >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in their lives to a >greater >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw my mother, who is >morbidly >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and suffer from arthritis, high >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and pains that really limit her >life at the still-young age of 60! > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is totally within the realm >of >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 months post-op to see how we >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at 315 and the age of 36)) >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless the weight came off. >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any other means I've tried in >my >adult life. > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and fears at this point --- At >times, reading or thinking about potential complications affected me so >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had experienced them and the agony >they went through). I thought long and hard about my decision and >re-thought >about it -- and I always ended up at the same conclusion: This surgery >would >save my life. I was better off taking the chance now when I was relatively >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, where complications *could* >become more possible) and when my children were young enough that I could >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, Jenn. We are here for >you >if you have any questions or need support. There are so many people here >who >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily notice their posts as much >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a post about someone >experiencing great difficulties, but they are there. There are many >people who experienced various complications but STILL never regretted the >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time getting through >complications >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all worth it. > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask questions. Be sure to >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all the information you need >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking about. You have the right >to >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia to post-op care >BEFOREHAND. > >all the best, >teresa >laparoscopic BPD/DS with gallbladder removal >Dr. Gagner/Dr. Quinn assisting/Mt. Sinai/NYC >January 25, 2001 >75 days post-op and still feelin' fab! >pre-op: 307 lbs/bmi 45 (5'9 " ) >now: 269 lbs (lost the .05 LOL)/bmi 40 > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 , What a wonderful answer to 's concerns. Thank you, it helped me as much as it did her I'm sure! Angel --- Factora jennfactora@...> wrote: > SCARY....I'm still thinking, haven't decided yet. > What most concerns me > actually is the long term side affects and will I > function normally when I'm > 60? > > > > > >From: ruisha@... > >Reply-To: duodenalswitch > >To: duodenalswitch > >Subject: Re: Pre-Op Questions > >Date: Tue, 10 Apr 2001 20:32:03 EDT > > > > > >In a message dated 4/10/01 6:13:18 PM, > duodenalswitch > >writes: > > > ><< . I am now 30 > >years old, 326lbs, married 1 year and have 2 > step-kids who I am mommy to (8 > >& 9 years old). THey want me to play, they want me > to swim, and I just > >can't. I also want to have my own children > (although they really are like > >my > >own), and there is NO WAY I am going to get > pregnant at this weight or I > >won't fit through a door! > > > >Has anyone had really bad after affects or know of > anyone who actually died > >from the blood clot thing? Scary. Help! >> > > > >Jenn: I have been angels to and known of people > experiencing extremely bad > >complications -- from blockage/leaks, pnemonia, > extended comas/near death > >(yes! The woman I was surgery sisters with was in > a coma for 17 days --- > >she > >had the RNY and isn't on this list - she left > behind a husband and a two > >year > >old son)..... I've read of quite a few people dying > of blot clots in the > >immediate days post-op (one of them recently on the > AMOS boards - she got > >an > >RNY, so I'm not sure if anyone posted about her on > this list)... > > > >A woman in our support group passed away about 6-11 > months post-op. She > >had > >been experiencing extreme protein deficiency and a > host of other problems, > >but it is debatable as to whether she passed away > as a direct result of the > >surgery (she developed an unexpected and sudden > blood infection - sepsis). > >Someone else from the list passed away after > surgery not in the distant > >past. > > > > > >I also have friends who have experienced severe > diahhrea, dehydration, > >vomiting, depression, lactose intolerance, severe > painful/odiferous gas, > >inability to get enough protein in, experienced > nausea as a rather constant > >companion in the months following their surgeries. > I've known of others > >who > >had severe reactions to food and were miserable for > quite some time until > >they found what the culprits were. > > > >These things do happen --- but, in the statistics > of things, they are > >relatively rare. That really doesn't help anyone > trying to cope with a > >loved > >one's loss or a nervous pre-op trying to prepare > oneself for the possible > >outcomes (both positive and negative), I know. > > > >The fact is -- it IS major surgery. But, also look > at those of us who have > >come through with flying colors -- I am a living > example of this, Thank > >God. > >In addition, here are many, many others on the list > who have not had > >any/many > >post-op problems or who HAVE had difficulties, have > come through them and > >don't regret taking that chance to have surgery and > save their lives. :) > > > >I would never try to make up another person's mind > or claim that everyone's > >decision would be similar to my own. One really > has to be totally > >convinced > >on a deep level that this WILL work for them and is > a viable option in > >order > >to really be ready for surgery and what can occur > afterwards in order to go > >through with it and feel totally prepared (well, as > prepared as is humanly > >possible). > > > >I have two wonderful kids -- aged 2 and 4. The > thought of leaving them or > >facing long term complications from the surgery > scared the HELL out of me > >--literally. I would never want to put them in > jeapordy or leave them > >without a mother. I, too, wanted to participate in > their lives to a > >greater > >degree, especially since I homeschool them. I saw > my mother, who is > >morbidly > >obese, battle to climb a flight of stairs and > suffer from arthritis, high > >blood cholesterol and a host of other aches and > pains that really limit her > >life at the still-young age of 60! > > > >I wouldn't mind more children and I know this is > totally within the realm > >of > >possibility. We're waiting until at least 18 > months post-op to see how we > >feel, etc. I also realized there was no way (at > 315 and the age of 36)) > >there was NO WAY I would carry another child unless > the weight came off. > >And, it hadn't come off (and stayed OFF) by any > other means I've tried in > >my > >adult life. > > > >I can totally empathize with your feelings and > fears at this point --- At > >times, reading or thinking about potential > complications affected me so > >deeply (moreso even knowing people who had > experienced them and the agony > >they went through). I thought long and hard about > my decision and > >re-thought > >about it -- and I always ended up at the same > conclusion: This surgery > >would > >save my life. I was better off taking the chance > now when I was relatively > >young at 36, at a bmi of 45 (instead of higher, > where complications *could* > >become more possible) and when my children were > young enough that I could > >enjoy the REST of their lives WITH them! > > > >I wish you the best in your decision and journey, > Jenn. We are here for > >you > >if you have any questions or need support. There > are so many people here > >who > >are doing great --- and you don't necessarily > notice their posts as much > >because they don't stand out as shockingly as a > post about someone > >experiencing great difficulties, but they are > there. There are many > >people who experienced various complications but > STILL never regretted the > >surgery! And, others who had a difficult time > getting through > >complications > >but at a later date have concluded that it WAS all > worth it. > > > >Get all the information you can -- research and ask > questions. Be sure to > >know your surgeon and DON'T be afraid to get all > the information you need > >from him/her. This IS your life you're talking > about. You have the right > >to > >know everything from pre-op testing to anesthesia > to post-op care > >BEFOREHAND. > > > >all the best, > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 11, 2001 Report Share Posted April 11, 2001 Thanks Joe for the info. I'm going to hold on to that 1% to 2%. And I'm going to forget about the 10% complication. I've never had a complication before and certainly don't plan to have one now. Joann in Mobile, practicing the power of positive thinking 04/20/01 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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