Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 What is the relationship exactly between these two? A few sources say phenols increase histamine, and a few say phenols are anti- histamines. Help. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 well i am high histamine and have problem with phenols i would imagine that partly digested particles in the blood not quite making it into cells are allergic which would mean high histamine actaully i am not even sure what histamine is " answers beget new answers " > What is the relationship exactly between these two? A few sources > say phenols increase histamine, and a few say phenols are anti- > histamines. Help. > > Thank you, > . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 Perhaps it means that phenols are the building blocks for manufacturing histamine, as the sulfation process is in fact the highest level in the manufacture of all hormones and neurotransmitters. Or phenol intolerance can cause the increase of Eosinophils (particularly the accumulation of artificial phenols as toxins in the body), which cause an increase in the release of histamine at the sites of irritation. If good sulfation in the digestive tract is required for the proper breakdown of histamine loose in the body, then phenols could be said to be an antihistamine. I think the enzymes/MSM combination. It seems that a regular dose of enzymes and a low dose of MSM is artificially creating the sulfation process in my body. I know the other hormones and neurotransmitters pay a high price, because my body is trying to manufacture the ordered amount of histamine in my body as a result of the many allergies I have. I've been building around this concept for years. I seem to be hitting a cumulation. --- jornmatt <kjorn@...> wrote: > What is the relationship exactly between these two? > A few sources > say phenols increase histamine, and a few say > phenols are anti- > histamines. Help. > > Thank you, > . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2002 Report Share Posted August 31, 2002 I think that if a person has trouble converting sulfur to sulfate and/or does not have adequate sulfation, then the phenols would cause a histamine reaction such as runny nose, congestion, ear infection, red ears, and/or a sore throat. If a person's level of histamine is really high, I think it would draw upon a person's epinephrine and subsequently the person would become endogenously fearful and anxious. I believe the Feingold Diet works because it takes the load off inadequate sulfation and also because there is less need for histamine if there are less food reactions. No Fenol would also take the load off inadequate sulfation; there would also be less histamine due to less food reactions/intolerances. Rose [ ] OT: phenols and histamine What is the relationship exactly between these two? A few sources say phenols increase histamine, and a few say phenols are anti- histamines. Help. Thank you, . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 In a message dated 9/1/02 12:40:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d701@... writes: > think that if a person has trouble converting sulfur to sulfate and/or does > not have adequate sulfation, then the phenols would cause a histamine > reaction such as runny nose, congestion, ear infection, red ears, and/or a > sore throat. ***So would this mean that MSM is Ok (maybe even good) for such a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 , I would say MSM would not be good for this type of person, because this person would have trouble converting MSM into sulfate. This person needs sulfur that is already converted into sulfate, for example, epsom salts. Epsom salts are magnesium sulfate. Rose Re: [ ] OT: phenols and histamine In a message dated 9/1/02 12:40:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d701@... writes: > think that if a person has trouble converting sulfur to sulfate and/or does > not have adequate sulfation, then the phenols would cause a histamine > reaction such as runny nose, congestion, ear infection, red ears, and/or a > sore throat. ***So would this mean that MSM is Ok (maybe even good) for such a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2002 Report Share Posted September 1, 2002 , I think in this type of person, MSM would not be okay, because they would have trouble converting MSM into sulfate, which is the usuable form of sulfur. This type of person would need sulfur that is already converted into the sulfate form, for example magnesium sulfate, which is the same as epsom salts. However, I do not believe things are written in stone. If you want a trial of MSM to see if it helps, and it doesn't, use magnesium sulfate to soak in. Rose Re: [ ] OT: phenols and histamine In a message dated 9/1/02 12:40:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, d701@... writes: > think that if a person has trouble converting sulfur to sulfate and/or does > not have adequate sulfation, then the phenols would cause a histamine > reaction such as runny nose, congestion, ear infection, red ears, and/or a > sore throat. ***So would this mean that MSM is Ok (maybe even good) for such a person? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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