Re: Is it a question of degree?

[Guest guest]

Hi,

You do have to follow the diet 100%, even though it is not an allergy issue. The

diet is not like any other diet, where, for instance, you can splurge once in a

while, like a weight loss diet.

The reason is because of starving the bad bacteria. A " little " bit to you is a

FEAST for a colony of bacteria.

So, yes, it is 100%.If the idea of no starches bothers you, think about the idea

of no bloating, no gas, no D, and..... no starches seems like a small thing.

Try it and see

PJ

>

> Hello - I am new here. I am very interested at having a go at this diet to

sort out my IBS symptoms, but the thought of no starches is very tough for me.

I was wondering if there was anything to be gained by doing the diet 80% but not

100% - for example doing everything as recommended but eating potatoes. Would

there be anything to be gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

understand it, this is not about food allergy/intolerance where even a small

amount of the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad

bacteria.

>

[Guest guest]

At 11:05 AM 10/13/2009, you wrote:

I was wondering if there was

anything to be gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for example

doing everything as recommended but eating potatoes. Would there be

anything to be gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I understand

it, this is not about food allergy/intolerance where even a small amount

of the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad

bacteria.

Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria. And if you keep

consuming bacteria-food, the only thing you'll accomplish is starving out

the weak sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the stronger ones

so they can multiply, making it that much harder to starve them

out.

I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also whole wheat cous-cous.

<g> It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

At 11:05 AM 10/13/2009, you wrote:

I was wondering if there was

anything to be gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for example

doing everything as recommended but eating potatoes. Would there be

anything to be gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I understand

it, this is not about food allergy/intolerance where even a small amount

of the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad

bacteria.

Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria. And if you keep

consuming bacteria-food, the only thing you'll accomplish is starving out

the weak sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the stronger ones

so they can multiply, making it that much harder to starve them

out.

I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also whole wheat cous-cous.

<g> It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

[Guest guest]

Thanks for the info - but do you feel full if you don't eat carbs? And do you

lose lots of weight - Im already underweight....

> >I was wondering if there was anything to be

> >gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for

> >example doing everything as recommended but

> >eating potatoes. Would there be anything to be

> >gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

> >understand it, this is not about food

> >allergy/intolerance where even a small amount of

> >the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad bacteria.

>

> Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria.

> And if you keep consuming bacteria-food, the only

> thing you'll accomplish is starving out the weak

> sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the

> stronger ones so they can multiply, making it

> that much harder to starve them out.

>

> I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also

> whole wheat cous-cous. It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

SCD is not a no carb diet, it restricts certain carbs. You can eat plenty of

other things. The nut butters are very filling. . Not everyone loses weight,

although some lose at first.

For an interesting read on carbs and weight/health, look at " Life Without Bread "

PJ

> > >I was wondering if there was anything to be

> > >gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for

> > >example doing everything as recommended but

> > >eating potatoes. Would there be anything to be

> > >gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

> > >understand it, this is not about food

> > >allergy/intolerance where even a small amount of

> > >the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad bacteria.

> >

> > Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria.

> > And if you keep consuming bacteria-food, the only

> > thing you'll accomplish is starving out the weak

> > sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the

> > stronger ones so they can multiply, making it

> > that much harder to starve them out.

> >

> > I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also

> > whole wheat cous-cous. It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

> >

> >

> > — Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> >

>

[Guest guest]

SCD is not a no carb diet, it restricts certain carbs. You can eat plenty of

other things. The nut butters are very filling. . Not everyone loses weight,

although some lose at first.

For an interesting read on carbs and weight/health, look at " Life Without Bread "

PJ

> > >I was wondering if there was anything to be

> > >gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for

> > >example doing everything as recommended but

> > >eating potatoes. Would there be anything to be

> > >gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

> > >understand it, this is not about food

> > >allergy/intolerance where even a small amount of

> > >the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad bacteria.

> >

> > Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria.

> > And if you keep consuming bacteria-food, the only

> > thing you'll accomplish is starving out the weak

> > sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the

> > stronger ones so they can multiply, making it

> > that much harder to starve them out.

> >

> > I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also

> > whole wheat cous-cous. It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

> >

> >

> > — Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> >

>

[Guest guest]

SCD is not a no carb diet, it restricts certain carbs. You can eat plenty of

other things. The nut butters are very filling. . Not everyone loses weight,

although some lose at first.

For an interesting read on carbs and weight/health, look at " Life Without Bread "

PJ

> > >I was wondering if there was anything to be

> > >gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for

> > >example doing everything as recommended but

> > >eating potatoes. Would there be anything to be

> > >gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

> > >understand it, this is not about food

> > >allergy/intolerance where even a small amount of

> > >the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad bacteria.

> >

> > Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria.

> > And if you keep consuming bacteria-food, the only

> > thing you'll accomplish is starving out the weak

> > sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the

> > stronger ones so they can multiply, making it

> > that much harder to starve them out.

> >

> > I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also

> > whole wheat cous-cous. It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

> >

> >

> > — Marilyn

> > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> > Darn Good SCD Cook

> > No Human Children

> > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

> >

>

[Guest guest]

My meds have illegals in them. Do you think it's a bonanza for the bacteria, or

such a minute amount that it doesn't matter? I'm hoping the latter, since Elaine

did allow a couple products with illegals (salt has dextrose, a couple

supplements for ASD kids at pecanbread have rice bran).

Holly

Crohn's

SCD 12/01/08

> >I was wondering if there was anything to be

> >gained by doing the diet 80% but not 100% - for

> >example doing everything as recommended but

> >eating potatoes. Would there be anything to be

> >gained or would it negate the whole diet? As I

> >understand it, this is not about food

> >allergy/intolerance where even a small amount of

> >the food is a disaster, but is more about starving off the bad bacteria.

>

> Right. It's about starving out the bad bacteria.

> And if you keep consuming bacteria-food, the only

> thing you'll accomplish is starving out the weak

> sisters in the bad bacteria, and then feeding the

> stronger ones so they can multiply, making it

> that much harder to starve them out.

>

> I was a macaroni, rice, and potato junkie. Also

> whole wheat cous-cous. It's daunting, but if I can do it, you can.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

> No Human Children

> Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

>

[Guest guest]

I have some supplements that contain illegals. This isn't because I

am approaching SCD in a carefree manner, but because certain things I

have to cope with require them: hot flashes, pain, osteoporosis, to

name a few. I would dearly LOVE to heal sufficiently to absorb

enough nutrients to get my supplement pile down a lot as it's a bit of a

handful with each meal. But I just can't do it yet. Some

things I have managed to find other brands that were legal, but some,

not. It's just the way it's going to have to be for now.

Having said that (red face here) I just discovered the other day that my

hydrochloric acid (my tummy doesn't produce any) has maltodextrin in it

and somehow I didn't notice that! Trust me, a better brand is

winging its way to me right now!

Since I felt so much better within three days of giving up rice (the rest

of my meager diet was OK), I really feel I can make do this way for

awhile even if it means I am on SCD-Lite. Elaine was against SCD

Lite, but she did say we could take meds we need and I think this has to

apply also to supplements we require. I do have some of my meds

compounded (at vast expense) to get around this.

My meds have illegals in them. Do you think it's a bonanza for the

bacteria, or such a minute amount that it doesn't matter? I'm hoping the

latter, since Elaine did allow a couple products with illegals (salt has

dextrose, a couple supplements for ASD kids at pecanbread have rice

bran).

Holly

[Guest guest]

This is exactly what I am assuming will happen and I'm looking forward to

it. I've had known malabsorption for decades now, hence needing the

extra amounts of so many things. I wouldn't mind seeing the silver hair

go, too!

My point being that as your gut heals and is able to absorb

nutrients again, your need for high volumes of supplements may

diminish, as

mine did.