Re: Digest Number 4064

[Guest guest]

Hi, my name is Sue and I've been a lurker for a few months now, researching all types of WLS. I weigh close to 400 lbs, twice in my adult life losing 185 lbs, once keeping it off for five years, even had loose skin removed from my lower abdomen, the other time losing that amount someone I loved died and I lost my will to keep it off. I am 55 years old and also when I was 19 years old I lost 110 lbs, getting in to size 10 clothes, but also put that back on. My first diet was when I was a senior in HS and I lost 60 lbs to get into a size 20 graduation dress.

Anyway my reason for writing now is to address the liver problems. When you are extremely overweight, 250 and above you get a "fatty liver" enlarged and sometimes cirossis [sp.] my Mom had that and her hightest weight was about 250 or so. Anyway I have been in emergency rooms and had Dr's accuse me of heavy drinking since I have a enlarged liver, never drink, so liver problems just don't have to be caused by WLS, it can come from just being too heavy.

Tired of typing now. I love your group. Write me personally if you want:

SUZYLUV1945@... THANKS

[Guest guest]

Well, Hello Sue! Welcome abroad. Your post sounded kinda down -- and I am not sure if you are going for the surgery, or still deciding? I am pretty close to 400 myself, but Body Mass Index is really more significant-- since I am 5'2", and 386 my BMI is 71-- getting up there and likely to have more complications at time of surgery as a result-- Dr. A is planning a -- gees, I wish it qualified as a tummy tuck- it is the same procedure, but in my case it is the removal of a giant lump of fat attached to some skin and navel.

This will reduce the BMI, make mobility less of an issue after the big surgery. The fatty liver problem has not come up for me -- it may be partially a genetic predisposition -- who knows -- but clearly your current weight isn't improving the situation! I am 49 this year, and I am planning to be able to dance at my 50th birthday party, if I have to hire the band my self and dance in the street.

Hang in there! Nan E.

[Guest guest]

Well, Hello Sue! Welcome abroad. Your post sounded kinda down -- and I am not sure if you are going for the surgery, or still deciding? I am pretty close to 400 myself, but Body Mass Index is really more significant-- since I am 5'2", and 386 my BMI is 71-- getting up there and likely to have more complications at time of surgery as a result-- Dr. A is planning a -- gees, I wish it qualified as a tummy tuck- it is the same procedure, but in my case it is the removal of a giant lump of fat attached to some skin and navel.

This will reduce the BMI, make mobility less of an issue after the big surgery. The fatty liver problem has not come up for me -- it may be partially a genetic predisposition -- who knows -- but clearly your current weight isn't improving the situation! I am 49 this year, and I am planning to be able to dance at my 50th birthday party, if I have to hire the band my self and dance in the street.

Hang in there! Nan E.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/13/2001 2:12:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sblevins@... writes:

<< It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my spelling is off >>

Cirrhosis of the liver is not cancer. Just want to make that clear for

anyone in doubt.

Dawna

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/13/2001 2:12:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sblevins@... writes:

<< It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my spelling is off >>

Cirrhosis of the liver is not cancer. Just want to make that clear for

anyone in doubt.

Dawna

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 5/13/2001 2:12:48 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

sblevins@... writes:

<< It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my spelling is off >>

Cirrhosis of the liver is not cancer. Just want to make that clear for

anyone in doubt.

Dawna

[Guest guest]

Sue, Have you have heard of Hemochromatosis (HH)? You sound like a classic case! Many doctors claim HH people must have been drinking when they were not at all! It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my spelling is off) and many other things. It is genetic and is the 2nd most popular genetic condition as reported by the Center for Disease Control in the US. It is having to much iron. You can have TOO much iron stored in your liver even without having too much circulating in your system. I know what your thinking. So many people say my iron isn't high but there is other bloodwork you have to check to. 1 out of 8 people in America carry this "bad" gene. If you are interested I can give you more info and websites. This can be fatal if not caught early enough and many drs are ignorant about it! It is serious! It is very simply treatment if not alot of damage to organs has been done. You simply get phebotomies (sp?). Take take any chances with your life. Stefany

Re: Digest Number 4064

Hi, my name is Sue and I've been a lurker for a few months now, researching all types of WLS. I weigh close to 400 lbs, twice in my adult life losing 185 lbs, once keeping it off for five years, even had loose skin removed from my lower abdomen, the other time losing that amount someone I loved died and I lost my will to keep it off. I am 55 years old and also when I was 19 years old I lost 110 lbs, getting in to size 10 clothes, but also put that back on. My first diet was when I was a senior in HS and I lost 60 lbs to get into a size 20 graduation dress. Anyway my reason for writing now is to address the liver problems. When you are extremely overweight, 250 and above you get a "fatty liver" enlarged and sometimes cirossis [sp.] my Mom had that and her hightest weight was about 250 or so. Anyway I have been in emergency rooms and had Dr's accuse me of heavy drinking since I have a enlarged liver, never drink, so liver problems just don't have to be caused by WLS, it can come from just being too heavy. Tired of typing now. I love your group. Write me personally if you want: SUZYLUV1945@... THANKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------

[Guest guest]

> Sue, Have you have heard of Hemochromatosis (HH)? You sound like a

classic case! Many doctors claim HH people must have been drinking

when they were not at all! It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my

spelling is off) and many other things. It is genetic and is the 2nd

most popular genetic condition as reported by the Center for Disease

Control in the US. It is having to much iron. You can have TOO much

iron stored in your liver even without having too much circulating in

your system. I know what your thinking. So many people say my iron

isn't high but there is other bloodwork you have to check to. 1 out

of 8 people in America carry this " bad " gene. If you are interested I

can give you more info and websites. This can be fatal if not caught

early enough and many drs are ignorant about it! It is serious! It

is very simply treatment if not alot of damage to organs has been

done. You simply get phebotomies (sp?).

Well- not Phlebotomies (blood draws), exactly.. You give blood,

whether someone else can use it or not. Its a most unique problem..

so please, get checked.

Hugs,

Liane

394# preop

but no liver disease at all, ever

(but no HH, either)

[Guest guest]

Hi Guys,

I first hand info on this for people because it runs in my family. First off, it is more serious in men than women. Why that is is because it is high levels of iron in the blood and it just keeps building over time, but as women we menstruate once a month and actually release some of the iron that builds up. If you are post menopausal it then can become a problem as you are not renewing some of your blood every month. You can be tested for this gene, just ask your doctor, but they will most likely want to see if any people in your family have it, but I'm sure if you were insistent they would do it.

My father is currently bloodletting every week. He goes in and they take like a pint of blood each time. His iron levels have dropped significantly since he started a year ago, but he will have to continue for another year doing this. Some of the problems he has are mild cirrhosis of the liver, terrible joint pain (my uncle actually had his hip replaced due to damage from the hemochromatosis) and constant lethargy. It is fatal if not treated because over time it poisons your body and damages your organs.

If you even THINK you might have this gene get tested. While many women never have symptoms or problems with this disease they do still carry the gene and any children they have can have it so it's good to get those children tested if the mother tests positive. That way in the future those kids who grow into adults will be prepared to look for the hemochromatosis.

Steph

-----Original Message-----From: Stefany Blevins Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2001 2:13 PMTo: duodenalswitch Subject: Re: Digest Number 4064

Sue, Have you have heard of Hemochromatosis (HH)? You sound like a classic case! Many doctors claim HH people must have been drinking when they were not at all! It causes ciriosis (liver cancer, my spelling is off) and many other things. It is genetic and is the 2nd most popular genetic condition as reported by the Center for Disease Control in the US. It is having to much iron. You can have TOO much iron stored in your liver even without having too much circulating in your system. I know what your thinking. So many people say my iron isn't high but there is other bloodwork you have to check to. 1 out of 8 people in America carry this "bad" gene. If you are interested I can give you more info and websites. This can be fatal if not caught early enough and many drs are ignorant about it! It is serious! It is very simply treatment if not alot of damage to organs has been done. You simply get phebotomies (sp?). Take take any chances with your life. Stefany

Re: Digest Number 4064

Hi, my name is Sue and I've been a lurker for a few months now, researching all types of WLS. I weigh close to 400 lbs, twice in my adult life losing 185 lbs, once keeping it off for five years, even had loose skin removed from my lower abdomen, the other time losing that amount someone I loved died and I lost my will to keep it off. I am 55 years old and also when I was 19 years old I lost 110 lbs, getting in to size 10 clothes, but also put that back on. My first diet was when I was a senior in HS and I lost 60 lbs to get into a size 20 graduation dress. Anyway my reason for writing now is to address the liver problems. When you are extremely overweight, 250 and above you get a "fatty liver" enlarged and sometimes cirossis [sp.] my Mom had that and her hightest weight was about 250 or so. Anyway I have been in emergency rooms and had Dr's accuse me of heavy drinking since I have a enlarged liver, never drink, so liver problems just don't have to be caused by WLS, it can come from just being too heavy. Tired of typing now. I love your group. Write me personally if you want: SUZYLUV1945@... THANKS ----------------------------------------------------------------------