Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Do others use it? Kim, I've used them for 5 years. Both the 3 strain culture for yogurt and acidolphilus. Katy ____________________________________________________________ Medical Billing CodingEarn your medical billing and coding degree, 100% online! Enroll now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 At 10:09 AM 9/3/2009, you wrote: I will reach out to them and let you know what I find. How did I miss this company? Do others use it? Must be because I only posted my orginal story on pecanbread - I should have posted my sons ?'s here a long time ago . . . Custom Probiotics has some great stuff. However, they tend not to be recommended by a lot of SCDers because the owner of the company has very definite ideas on good probiotics and has confused some folks by insisting that certain strains are SCD legal when they are not. (He knows probiotics; is not as familiar with SCD as we would wish.) There was also some question as to whether the Custom Probiotics were, in fact, truly dairy free -- I do not know if that question was ever resolved. Many people really like their regular yogurt starter. <g> I need to get around to trying it. Just remember to be firm about what you want/need. I expect you're good at that where your boys are concerned! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hey Kim.. Your welcome! Just proceed with caution!!! But I am sure you do that anyway. They have to be careful over at PecanBread since there are so many newbies over there and parents at their wits end as it is so overwhelming implementing this diet with little ones.. A suggestion like this takes due diligence and some PI work.. So it is hard making blanket statements about legality or suggestions as to how to proceed etc. But I reckon you are already familiar with this kind of dance! Good luck and let us know what you find!! I was thinking of trying yogurt starter from them as well. I have recently switched to a dairy free starter. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hey Kim.. Your welcome! Just proceed with caution!!! But I am sure you do that anyway. They have to be careful over at PecanBread since there are so many newbies over there and parents at their wits end as it is so overwhelming implementing this diet with little ones.. A suggestion like this takes due diligence and some PI work.. So it is hard making blanket statements about legality or suggestions as to how to proceed etc. But I reckon you are already familiar with this kind of dance! Good luck and let us know what you find!! I was thinking of trying yogurt starter from them as well. I have recently switched to a dairy free starter. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Hey Kim.. Your welcome! Just proceed with caution!!! But I am sure you do that anyway. They have to be careful over at PecanBread since there are so many newbies over there and parents at their wits end as it is so overwhelming implementing this diet with little ones.. A suggestion like this takes due diligence and some PI work.. So it is hard making blanket statements about legality or suggestions as to how to proceed etc. But I reckon you are already familiar with this kind of dance! Good luck and let us know what you find!! I was thinking of trying yogurt starter from them as well. I have recently switched to a dairy free starter. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Marilyn, Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DARIY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . TIA, Kim > >I will reach out to them and let you know what I > >find. How did I miss this company? Do others use > >it? Must be because I only posted my orginal > >story on pecanbread - I should have posted my > >sons ?'s here a long time ago . . . > > Custom Probiotics has some great stuff. > > However, they tend not to be recommended by a lot > of SCDers because the owner of the company has > very definite ideas on good probiotics and has > confused some folks by insisting that certain > strains are SCD legal when they are not. (He > knows probiotics; is not as familiar with SCD as we would wish.) > > There was also some question as to whether the > Custom Probiotics were, in fact, truly dairy free > -- I do not know if that question was ever resolved. > > Many people really like their regular yogurt > starter. I need to get around to trying it. > > Just remember to be firm about what you > want/need. I expect you're good at that where your boys are concerned! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Marilyn, Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DARIY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . TIA, Kim > >I will reach out to them and let you know what I > >find. How did I miss this company? Do others use > >it? Must be because I only posted my orginal > >story on pecanbread - I should have posted my > >sons ?'s here a long time ago . . . > > Custom Probiotics has some great stuff. > > However, they tend not to be recommended by a lot > of SCDers because the owner of the company has > very definite ideas on good probiotics and has > confused some folks by insisting that certain > strains are SCD legal when they are not. (He > knows probiotics; is not as familiar with SCD as we would wish.) > > There was also some question as to whether the > Custom Probiotics were, in fact, truly dairy free > -- I do not know if that question was ever resolved. > > Many people really like their regular yogurt > starter. I need to get around to trying it. > > Just remember to be firm about what you > want/need. I expect you're good at that where your boys are concerned! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Marilyn, Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DARIY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . TIA, Kim > >I will reach out to them and let you know what I > >find. How did I miss this company? Do others use > >it? Must be because I only posted my orginal > >story on pecanbread - I should have posted my > >sons ?'s here a long time ago . . . > > Custom Probiotics has some great stuff. > > However, they tend not to be recommended by a lot > of SCDers because the owner of the company has > very definite ideas on good probiotics and has > confused some folks by insisting that certain > strains are SCD legal when they are not. (He > knows probiotics; is not as familiar with SCD as we would wish.) > > There was also some question as to whether the > Custom Probiotics were, in fact, truly dairy free > -- I do not know if that question was ever resolved. > > Many people really like their regular yogurt > starter. I need to get around to trying it. > > Just remember to be firm about what you > want/need. I expect you're good at that where your boys are concerned! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now Yes, he is. Some people have recommended dealing with him only via e-mail. My one experience with him was reasonably positive, as I mentioned I was on SCD and doing very well, therefore I intended to stay with the recommended probiotics. He did not, thereafter, try to talk me into anything else. (It annoys me, though, that someone with an excellent name -- my very pro-SCD husband is Harry! -- can be so rude!) He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Poor customer service, I think. Well, at least, from my POV, with 30+ years in customer service issues. But -- you see -- he does not know everything. Each of us is an expert on our own guts (or those of our children). I shudder at Kim M's low fat SCD -- she probably gets twinges at the thought of my high fat SCD. I read about people eating smoothies with a couple bananas and a couple cups of other fruit and I flinch -- but those smoothies work for them. I can't eat consistently raw foods, yet Ann does better on them because of other issues. That is why SCD is so powerful -- it is flexible enough to accommodate these personal needs. For your children, you are the expert on PANDAS. (I'm intrigued to learn from YOU on this issue!) I have confidence that you will come up with a system which will help your boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DAIRY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk-fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with .1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk + honey, and then ferment. You could always increase it. This is all very iffy: since I tolerate dairy just fine, I've never gotten 'round to experimenting with nut milks. And with my mom as ill as she is, it's unlikely that I will get to any protracted things. But I think this is where I would be inclined to start. Don't forget that you could also put small amounts of the probiotics themselves in suitable foods to give to your boys, although if you can use these as a starter, it will certainly be less expensive in the long run. I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . Sounds like a good idea to me. Let us know how it goes. Life IS an experiment! It's like the old Chinese curse: " May you live in interesting times...! " Me, I'd occasionally settle for a bit of dull and boring.... — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now Yes, he is. Some people have recommended dealing with him only via e-mail. My one experience with him was reasonably positive, as I mentioned I was on SCD and doing very well, therefore I intended to stay with the recommended probiotics. He did not, thereafter, try to talk me into anything else. (It annoys me, though, that someone with an excellent name -- my very pro-SCD husband is Harry! -- can be so rude!) He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Poor customer service, I think. Well, at least, from my POV, with 30+ years in customer service issues. But -- you see -- he does not know everything. Each of us is an expert on our own guts (or those of our children). I shudder at Kim M's low fat SCD -- she probably gets twinges at the thought of my high fat SCD. I read about people eating smoothies with a couple bananas and a couple cups of other fruit and I flinch -- but those smoothies work for them. I can't eat consistently raw foods, yet Ann does better on them because of other issues. That is why SCD is so powerful -- it is flexible enough to accommodate these personal needs. For your children, you are the expert on PANDAS. (I'm intrigued to learn from YOU on this issue!) I have confidence that you will come up with a system which will help your boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DAIRY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk-fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with .1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk + honey, and then ferment. You could always increase it. This is all very iffy: since I tolerate dairy just fine, I've never gotten 'round to experimenting with nut milks. And with my mom as ill as she is, it's unlikely that I will get to any protracted things. But I think this is where I would be inclined to start. Don't forget that you could also put small amounts of the probiotics themselves in suitable foods to give to your boys, although if you can use these as a starter, it will certainly be less expensive in the long run. I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . Sounds like a good idea to me. Let us know how it goes. Life IS an experiment! It's like the old Chinese curse: " May you live in interesting times...! " Me, I'd occasionally settle for a bit of dull and boring.... — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 Is Harry the owner? If so, I just had the EXACT experience that you describe. I think I will try another day, when I am not so frustrated. I cannot handle the stress right now Yes, he is. Some people have recommended dealing with him only via e-mail. My one experience with him was reasonably positive, as I mentioned I was on SCD and doing very well, therefore I intended to stay with the recommended probiotics. He did not, thereafter, try to talk me into anything else. (It annoys me, though, that someone with an excellent name -- my very pro-SCD husband is Harry! -- can be so rude!) He just called me a " silly SCD person " who " knows nothing. " But he did not know about PANDAS, and that stumped him. Oh well. Generally I don't do business with insulting people, but my options are limited, and I will do anything to help heal my boys. Poor customer service, I think. Well, at least, from my POV, with 30+ years in customer service issues. But -- you see -- he does not know everything. Each of us is an expert on our own guts (or those of our children). I shudder at Kim M's low fat SCD -- she probably gets twinges at the thought of my high fat SCD. I read about people eating smoothies with a couple bananas and a couple cups of other fruit and I flinch -- but those smoothies work for them. I can't eat consistently raw foods, yet Ann does better on them because of other issues. That is why SCD is so powerful -- it is flexible enough to accommodate these personal needs. For your children, you are the expert on PANDAS. (I'm intrigued to learn from YOU on this issue!) I have confidence that you will come up with a system which will help your boys. Meantime, I will collaborate here, because Harry does not appear to be a collaborator: I'm thinking of having them do a DAIRY FREE custom blend of: L. Bulgaricus, and L. Acidophilus, L. Casei Is there another strain that I should add for my fermentation experiment? I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk-fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with .1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk + honey, and then ferment. You could always increase it. This is all very iffy: since I tolerate dairy just fine, I've never gotten 'round to experimenting with nut milks. And with my mom as ill as she is, it's unlikely that I will get to any protracted things. But I think this is where I would be inclined to start. Don't forget that you could also put small amounts of the probiotics themselves in suitable foods to give to your boys, although if you can use these as a starter, it will certainly be less expensive in the long run. I suppose if they react with dairy symptoms, I can always use it myself to make yogurt by adding in a smidge of plain S. Thermophilus. Sometimes I feel life is just one HUGE experiment . . . Sounds like a good idea to me. Let us know how it goes. Life IS an experiment! It's like the old Chinese curse: " May you live in interesting times...! " Me, I'd occasionally settle for a bit of dull and boring.... — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 > I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. > Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk- > fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the > individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's > still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 > grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with . > 1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk > + honey, I don't believe you have to add extra honey - as nut milk is routinely made with honey in the first place. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 > I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. > Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk- > fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the > individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's > still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 > grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with . > 1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk > + honey, I don't believe you have to add extra honey - as nut milk is routinely made with honey in the first place. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2009 Report Share Posted September 3, 2009 > I think those three should be fine. They're all SCD-legal. S. > Thermophilus, which your boys can't have is the other legal milk- > fermenting bacteria. I notice that Custom Probiotics does carry the > individual strains you need if they cannot do a custom mixture. It's > still $$$$. I note that their standard yogurt starter calls for .4 > grams for 2-4 quarts of milk, so my thought would be to start with . > 1 grams of each of the three strains in your two quarts of nut milk > + honey, I don't believe you have to add extra honey - as nut milk is routinely made with honey in the first place. Mara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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