Amt of probiotics in yogurt

[Guest guest]

I emailed my chiro about not wanting to take the illegal probiotics,

and he said he'd be willing to test my yogurt and another legal

probiotic, if I get one. Anyways, he said he doesn't think the yogurt

has enough probiotics in it. But everyone on here says the yogurt has

way more than supplements. So I'm wondering:

1) how do you know this?

2) how many are there in, say, a cup of yogurt?

I want to know the background on this so I have an argument when I get

tested next.

Thanks!

Pour Dieu, pour terre,

Alyssa 15

UC April 2008, diagnosed Sept 2008

SCD June 2009 (restarted)

No meds =)

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

So a couple of basics..

Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

The ferments;

Implant differently

Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and living

life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am biased

as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

So a couple of basics..

Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

The ferments;

Implant differently

Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and living

life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am biased

as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

Alyssa..

So a couple of basics..

Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

The ferments;

Implant differently

Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and living

life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am biased

as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

1) how do you know this?2) how many are there in, say, a cup of yogurt?

This is from Elaine: "I just received a lab report about the difference in the numbers(CFU's)(colony forming units) of bacteria in 12 hour fermented yogurt and 24hour fermented yogurt.In 12 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 65 million/gramIn 24 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 470 million/gramBoth of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."HTH,Pat

[Guest guest]

1) how do you know this?2) how many are there in, say, a cup of yogurt?

This is from Elaine: "I just received a lab report about the difference in the numbers(CFU's)(colony forming units) of bacteria in 12 hour fermented yogurt and 24hour fermented yogurt.In 12 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 65 million/gramIn 24 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 470 million/gramBoth of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."HTH,Pat

[Guest guest]

1) how do you know this?2) how many are there in, say, a cup of yogurt?

This is from Elaine: "I just received a lab report about the difference in the numbers(CFU's)(colony forming units) of bacteria in 12 hour fermented yogurt and 24hour fermented yogurt.In 12 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 65 million/gramIn 24 hour fermented yogurt - Average CFU's was 470 million/gramBoth of these tests were done on unpasteurized goat's milk using the same probiotic."HTH,Pat

[Guest guest]

Alyssa- this is from

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yog_importance.h\

tm

Its is often claimed that we can get more good bacteria from taking commercial

probiotics. This is not the case and yoghurt is a very low cost source of

probiotics. 24hr SCD™ yoghurt has a concentration of 3 billion cfu/ml which

means that in just a cup of Yoghurt (236ml) you'll get 708 Billion beneficial

bacteria and that's about 50 times more than that claimed for a typical 15

billion capsule.

PJ

>

> Alyssa..

>

> So a couple of basics..

> Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

>

> The ferments;

> Implant differently

> Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

>

> There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

>

> There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

>

> Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and

living life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

>

> But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am

biased as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

>

> I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

>

> Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

>

> Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

>

> This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

Alyssa- this is from

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yog_importance.h\

tm

Its is often claimed that we can get more good bacteria from taking commercial

probiotics. This is not the case and yoghurt is a very low cost source of

probiotics. 24hr SCD™ yoghurt has a concentration of 3 billion cfu/ml which

means that in just a cup of Yoghurt (236ml) you'll get 708 Billion beneficial

bacteria and that's about 50 times more than that claimed for a typical 15

billion capsule.

PJ

>

> Alyssa..

>

> So a couple of basics..

> Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

>

> The ferments;

> Implant differently

> Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

>

> There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

>

> There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

>

> Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and

living life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

>

> But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am

biased as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

>

> I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

>

> Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

>

> Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

>

> This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

Alyssa- this is from

http://www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info/beginners_guide/yoghurt/yog_importance.h\

tm

Its is often claimed that we can get more good bacteria from taking commercial

probiotics. This is not the case and yoghurt is a very low cost source of

probiotics. 24hr SCD™ yoghurt has a concentration of 3 billion cfu/ml which

means that in just a cup of Yoghurt (236ml) you'll get 708 Billion beneficial

bacteria and that's about 50 times more than that claimed for a typical 15

billion capsule.

PJ

>

> Alyssa..

>

> So a couple of basics..

> Fermented Whole foods are different than supplements.

>

> The ferments;

> Implant differently

> Can travel further down GI tract and survive in extreme environments.

>

> There is debate for instance if in order for us to have proper implantation of

good bacteria if a prebiotic (food for probiotic) is needed? On The SCD we

starve bad bacteria and a consequence of this good bacteria starve as well that

is why Elaine wanted us using probiotics in the first place so we constantly

populate, " friendly " bombard our gut with this. Those same prebiotics mentioned

above cause major fermentation and in damaged guts cause major havoc. Take a

look at most OTC probiotics they all contain some type of prebiotic. Not too

mention how agribuisness has taken over and patented catchy names for bacteria

that have been around for like ever trying to get us to eat " new " generation

probiotics *loud cough while muttering expletive* money, money, money.

>

> There is also debate on a proper amount of probiotics one can ingest daily.

These ideas differ as well.

>

> Yeah, multi strain probiotics would be ideal. So would being healthy and

living life not worrying about every little thing we put in our mouth.

>

> But still the best way to get this stuff in is via whole foods. But I am

biased as I believe whole foods are healthier anyway.

>

> I have learned to listen to my body so that my body guides me how much of

probiotics I can take.

>

> Not sure of the amount of probiotics in a cup of our SCD yogurt. I would

imagine there would be variations in constant temp, type of milk, type of

culture, whether it is dripped or not.

>

> Like all supplements much of it gets flushed out either by the liver, improper

implantation, GI tract environment. So even if X is written on the bottle does

not mean X actually gets absorbed.

>

> This is an entire industry and there is so much debate going on in this field.

Many many schools of thought on this one.

>

> Jodi

>

[Guest guest]

PJ,

Thanks for posting this.

It's amazing how many times I have read the SCD sites and BTVC book and yet I

always get new info.

I also have trouble retaining info which is a bummer in of itself.

Not really sure why.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

PJ,

Thanks for posting this.

It's amazing how many times I have read the SCD sites and BTVC book and yet I

always get new info.

I also have trouble retaining info which is a bummer in of itself.

Not really sure why.

Jodi

[Guest guest]

PJ,

Thanks for posting this.

It's amazing how many times I have read the SCD sites and BTVC book and yet I

always get new info.

I also have trouble retaining info which is a bummer in of itself.

Not really sure why.

Jodi