Re: Stomach pains after surgery

July 13, 2005

Gosh

that horrible. I dont have anything to offer you on this one. I want to say I hope someone else in here does, but at the sametime from your descriptions i wouldt want to see anyone else have this problem including you. Keep us updated. I think the nitroglycerin dilates blood vessels and maybe somehow that helps, cause i know they give that out for chest pain for people who have angina attacks.........

colleenmusil321 wrote:

Hello all, Yesterday I said I would let you all know what my little problem was that I am having. But I need to start with something totally unrelated and at the end you will understand. In 1993 I had my gall bladder out. After a couple of months I started suffering from these horrible belches. I used to say it was like satan crawled into my mouth and shit in there. It was that bad. I was prescribed a medication called Propulsid (sp?). About 4 months after the gall bladder surgery and 2 months after the start of the medication I started getting some pains in my abdomen. Pain seems to be too mild of a word for it but let me describe what was going on. It would start with a mild ache under my belly button. Then a creeping pressure would start in my shoulders and feel like it crept from my blades up and over my shoulder to my

collar bone. The pressure would increase and increase as if someone was pushing down on my shoulders in the soft tissue harder and harder. Some time while the pressure was building in my shoulders the pain would increase in my abdomen to nearly intolerable pain. I had a small child at home at the time and would know this was coming and put her in front of the tv and pray nothing bad happened and then go lie on my bed, writhing from the pain. The only other pain I have ever expierenced like this was contractions when having my daughter. I couldn't talk, I nearly hyperventlated from not concentrating on my breathing and the weirdest part, they would come on slow, build and build in pain then fade away. Then start up again after a few minutes with no pain. This went on for about an hour. I called the docs and they had no clue. I had appt after appt and they couldn't resolve this but did take me off the Propulsid. The

attacks continued but after about a year or so they disappeared all together. Since this happened I will occasionally get the same shoulder pain but never very bad. And it is never accompanied by the abdominal pain, thank God. I finally was looking online one day and it sure sounded like something called Esophageal Spasms. I called my doctor and he said "that's it!". I was simply to take liquid Benadryl at the onset and they would stop. Guess what? It worked. So why have I told you this? Because about a month ago I got a very slight pain in my abdomen in the same place and the shoulder pain came right after. I was driving and was able to continue driving but this sort of scared me. I never got the bad "contraction" type pain but I was just very wary. I didn't think about this again until it happened a few days later again. But still very mild in comparison to what I had expierenced years before. This has happened

about once a week (on average) for the last 5 weeks. Until this past Sunday. I was sitting on the computer, doing basically nothing. I was in a lazy boy so you know I was comfortable. Here it started coming on but this time was different. I was totally in more pain than ever. Or at least what I could remember of the pain. This was just like the times 12 years ago. It was horrible. My husband just laid down with me and tried to be soothing but I was unconsolable. He said I was a bit disoriented during it, but I think that was just due to the pain. I don't get a fever or even neasea. Just pain and that nearly untolerable pressure in my shoulders. I had no liquid Benadryl in the house so I just dealt with it for about 45 min or so until they stopped. Over that time I had 3 really bad rounds of pain. I have looked up esophageal spasms online and they are now treating it with Nitroglicerin under the tongue. I find that

interesting. I have an appt with my doc but can't get in until next week. He isn't here this week and I am off to Disneyland. I will be taking some liquid Benadryl with me on the trip just in case, but so few people have ever heard of this before. Here is the kicker. I don't think it is bypass related but more surgery related. I can't tie these to any food or situation that leads to them coming on but they did start up again 5 months after my gastric bypass surgery (or 4 months if you count the mild episodes) and a couple months after my gall bladder surgery. Has anyone ever heard of this or have any suggestions. Thank you for getting this far, I really appreciate any help on this. I want to be totally prepared when I go to the doc next week.

July 13, 2005

Gosh

that horrible. I dont have anything to offer you on this one. I want to say I hope someone else in here does, but at the sametime from your descriptions i wouldt want to see anyone else have this problem including you. Keep us updated. I think the nitroglycerin dilates blood vessels and maybe somehow that helps, cause i know they give that out for chest pain for people who have angina attacks.........

colleenmusil321 wrote:

Hello all, Yesterday I said I would let you all know what my little problem was that I am having. But I need to start with something totally unrelated and at the end you will understand. In 1993 I had my gall bladder out. After a couple of months I started suffering from these horrible belches. I used to say it was like satan crawled into my mouth and shit in there. It was that bad. I was prescribed a medication called Propulsid (sp?). About 4 months after the gall bladder surgery and 2 months after the start of the medication I started getting some pains in my abdomen. Pain seems to be too mild of a word for it but let me describe what was going on. It would start with a mild ache under my belly button. Then a creeping pressure would start in my shoulders and feel like it crept from my blades up and over my shoulder to my

collar bone. The pressure would increase and increase as if someone was pushing down on my shoulders in the soft tissue harder and harder. Some time while the pressure was building in my shoulders the pain would increase in my abdomen to nearly intolerable pain. I had a small child at home at the time and would know this was coming and put her in front of the tv and pray nothing bad happened and then go lie on my bed, writhing from the pain. The only other pain I have ever expierenced like this was contractions when having my daughter. I couldn't talk, I nearly hyperventlated from not concentrating on my breathing and the weirdest part, they would come on slow, build and build in pain then fade away. Then start up again after a few minutes with no pain. This went on for about an hour. I called the docs and they had no clue. I had appt after appt and they couldn't resolve this but did take me off the Propulsid. The

attacks continued but after about a year or so they disappeared all together. Since this happened I will occasionally get the same shoulder pain but never very bad. And it is never accompanied by the abdominal pain, thank God. I finally was looking online one day and it sure sounded like something called Esophageal Spasms. I called my doctor and he said "that's it!". I was simply to take liquid Benadryl at the onset and they would stop. Guess what? It worked. So why have I told you this? Because about a month ago I got a very slight pain in my abdomen in the same place and the shoulder pain came right after. I was driving and was able to continue driving but this sort of scared me. I never got the bad "contraction" type pain but I was just very wary. I didn't think about this again until it happened a few days later again. But still very mild in comparison to what I had expierenced years before. This has happened

about once a week (on average) for the last 5 weeks. Until this past Sunday. I was sitting on the computer, doing basically nothing. I was in a lazy boy so you know I was comfortable. Here it started coming on but this time was different. I was totally in more pain than ever. Or at least what I could remember of the pain. This was just like the times 12 years ago. It was horrible. My husband just laid down with me and tried to be soothing but I was unconsolable. He said I was a bit disoriented during it, but I think that was just due to the pain. I don't get a fever or even neasea. Just pain and that nearly untolerable pressure in my shoulders. I had no liquid Benadryl in the house so I just dealt with it for about 45 min or so until they stopped. Over that time I had 3 really bad rounds of pain. I have looked up esophageal spasms online and they are now treating it with Nitroglicerin under the tongue. I find that

interesting. I have an appt with my doc but can't get in until next week. He isn't here this week and I am off to Disneyland. I will be taking some liquid Benadryl with me on the trip just in case, but so few people have ever heard of this before. Here is the kicker. I don't think it is bypass related but more surgery related. I can't tie these to any food or situation that leads to them coming on but they did start up again 5 months after my gastric bypass surgery (or 4 months if you count the mild episodes) and a couple months after my gall bladder surgery. Has anyone ever heard of this or have any suggestions. Thank you for getting this far, I really appreciate any help on this. I want to be totally prepared when I go to the doc next week.

July 13, 2005

Gosh

that horrible. I dont have anything to offer you on this one. I want to say I hope someone else in here does, but at the sametime from your descriptions i wouldt want to see anyone else have this problem including you. Keep us updated. I think the nitroglycerin dilates blood vessels and maybe somehow that helps, cause i know they give that out for chest pain for people who have angina attacks.........

colleenmusil321 wrote:

Hello all, Yesterday I said I would let you all know what my little problem was that I am having. But I need to start with something totally unrelated and at the end you will understand. In 1993 I had my gall bladder out. After a couple of months I started suffering from these horrible belches. I used to say it was like satan crawled into my mouth and shit in there. It was that bad. I was prescribed a medication called Propulsid (sp?). About 4 months after the gall bladder surgery and 2 months after the start of the medication I started getting some pains in my abdomen. Pain seems to be too mild of a word for it but let me describe what was going on. It would start with a mild ache under my belly button. Then a creeping pressure would start in my shoulders and feel like it crept from my blades up and over my shoulder to my

collar bone. The pressure would increase and increase as if someone was pushing down on my shoulders in the soft tissue harder and harder. Some time while the pressure was building in my shoulders the pain would increase in my abdomen to nearly intolerable pain. I had a small child at home at the time and would know this was coming and put her in front of the tv and pray nothing bad happened and then go lie on my bed, writhing from the pain. The only other pain I have ever expierenced like this was contractions when having my daughter. I couldn't talk, I nearly hyperventlated from not concentrating on my breathing and the weirdest part, they would come on slow, build and build in pain then fade away. Then start up again after a few minutes with no pain. This went on for about an hour. I called the docs and they had no clue. I had appt after appt and they couldn't resolve this but did take me off the Propulsid. The

attacks continued but after about a year or so they disappeared all together. Since this happened I will occasionally get the same shoulder pain but never very bad. And it is never accompanied by the abdominal pain, thank God. I finally was looking online one day and it sure sounded like something called Esophageal Spasms. I called my doctor and he said "that's it!". I was simply to take liquid Benadryl at the onset and they would stop. Guess what? It worked. So why have I told you this? Because about a month ago I got a very slight pain in my abdomen in the same place and the shoulder pain came right after. I was driving and was able to continue driving but this sort of scared me. I never got the bad "contraction" type pain but I was just very wary. I didn't think about this again until it happened a few days later again. But still very mild in comparison to what I had expierenced years before. This has happened

about once a week (on average) for the last 5 weeks. Until this past Sunday. I was sitting on the computer, doing basically nothing. I was in a lazy boy so you know I was comfortable. Here it started coming on but this time was different. I was totally in more pain than ever. Or at least what I could remember of the pain. This was just like the times 12 years ago. It was horrible. My husband just laid down with me and tried to be soothing but I was unconsolable. He said I was a bit disoriented during it, but I think that was just due to the pain. I don't get a fever or even neasea. Just pain and that nearly untolerable pressure in my shoulders. I had no liquid Benadryl in the house so I just dealt with it for about 45 min or so until they stopped. Over that time I had 3 really bad rounds of pain. I have looked up esophageal spasms online and they are now treating it with Nitroglicerin under the tongue. I find that

interesting. I have an appt with my doc but can't get in until next week. He isn't here this week and I am off to Disneyland. I will be taking some liquid Benadryl with me on the trip just in case, but so few people have ever heard of this before. Here is the kicker. I don't think it is bypass related but more surgery related. I can't tie these to any food or situation that leads to them coming on but they did start up again 5 months after my gastric bypass surgery (or 4 months if you count the mild episodes) and a couple months after my gall bladder surgery. Has anyone ever heard of this or have any suggestions. Thank you for getting this far, I really appreciate any help on this. I want to be totally prepared when I go to the doc next week.

July 13, 2005

I know about the angina attacks and nitro but never knew why. I

don't see how that would help but I know the liquid Benadryl did work

pretty quickly. I am still not 100% sure it is indeed Esophageal

spasms or what it is. I just know that I thought this door to my

life was shut and now it isn't just open it is letting all the good

air out.

> Hello all,

>

> Yesterday I said I would let you all know what my little problem

was

> that I am having. But I need to start with something totally

> unrelated and at the end you will understand.

>

> In 1993 I had my gall bladder out. After a couple of months I

> started suffering from these horrible belches. I used to say it was

> like satan crawled into my mouth and shit in there. It was that

> bad. I was prescribed a medication called Propulsid (sp?). About 4

> months after the gall bladder surgery and 2 months after the start

of

> the medication I started getting some pains in my abdomen. Pain

> seems to be too mild of a word for it but let me describe what was

> going on. It would start with a mild ache under my belly button.

> Then a creeping pressure would start in my shoulders and feel like

it

> crept from my blades up and over my shoulder to my collar bone. The

> pressure would increase and increase as if someone was pushing down

> on my shoulders in the soft tissue harder and harder. Some time

> while the pressure was building in my shoulders the pain would

> increase in my abdomen to nearly intolerable pain. I had a small

> child at home at the time and would know this was coming and put

her

> in front of the tv and pray nothing bad happened and then go lie on

> my bed, writhing from the pain. The only other pain I have ever

> expierenced like this was contractions when having my daughter. I

> couldn't talk, I nearly hyperventlated from not concentrating on my

> breathing and the weirdest part, they would come on slow, build and

> build in pain then fade away. Then start up again after a few

> minutes with no pain. This went on for about an hour.

>

> I called the docs and they had no clue. I had appt after appt and

> they couldn't resolve this but did take me off the Propulsid. The

> attacks continued but after about a year or so they disappeared all

> together.

>

> Since this happened I will occasionally get the same shoulder pain

> but never very bad. And it is never accompanied by the abdominal

> pain, thank God. I finally was looking online one day and it sure

> sounded like something called Esophageal Spasms. I called my doctor

> and he said " that's it! " . I was simply to take liquid Benadryl at

> the onset and they would stop. Guess what? It worked.

>

> So why have I told you this? Because about a month ago I got a very

> slight pain in my abdomen in the same place and the shoulder pain

> came right after. I was driving and was able to continue driving

but

> this sort of scared me. I never got the bad " contraction " type pain

> but I was just very wary. I didn't think about this again until it

> happened a few days later again. But still very mild in comparison

> to what I had expierenced years before. This has happened about

once

> a week (on average) for the last 5 weeks. Until this past Sunday. I

> was sitting on the computer, doing basically nothing. I was in a

> lazy boy so you know I was comfortable. Here it started coming on

> but this time was different. I was totally in more pain than ever.

> Or at least what I could remember of the pain. This was just like

> the times 12 years ago. It was horrible. My husband just laid down

> with me and tried to be soothing but I was unconsolable. He said I

> was a bit disoriented during it, but I think that was just due to

the

> pain. I don't get a fever or even neasea. Just pain and that nearly

> untolerable pressure in my shoulders. I had no liquid Benadryl in

> the house so I just dealt with it for about 45 min or so until they

> stopped. Over that time I had 3 really bad rounds of pain.

>

> I have looked up esophageal spasms online and they are now treating

> it with Nitroglicerin under the tongue. I find that interesting. I

> have an appt with my doc but can't get in until next week. He isn't

> here this week and I am off to Disneyland. I will be taking some

> liquid Benadryl with me on the trip just in case, but so few people

> have ever heard of this before.

>

> Here is the kicker. I don't think it is bypass related but more

> surgery related. I can't tie these to any food or situation that

> leads to them coming on but they did start up again 5 months after

my

> gastric bypass surgery (or 4 months if you count the mild episodes)

> and a couple months after my gall bladder surgery.

>

> Has anyone ever heard of this or have any suggestions.

>

> Thank you for getting this far, I really appreciate any help on

> this. I want to be totally prepared when I go to the doc next week.

>

July 13, 2005