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Hi Dean, nice to meet you. Mantras...let me see. Not

so sure this qualifies as any Mantras but I basically

talk myself through this situation. I basically ask

whats the worst thing that will happen if I do/not do

this or that and go from there. Like when I was going

through my 10% process, I used to say to myself when I

felt like eating something that I knew would hinder my

progress, this is what I would say " No 10%, no

surgery " and that is what kept me on the straight and

narrow. That along with encouragement from this group

and LOTS of prayer.

I wish you luck with whatever you are dealing with.

Pam Marsh

--- Dean NLzooks@...> wrote:

> Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat

> to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> something....to avoid eating something, for

> instance.

>

> [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> urine. I came up with a solution which has worked

> for me for decades: When having this problem I would

> simply repeat over and over again the name of

> someone I had to work with that drove me crazy. The

> thought of him would totally distract my mind and

> then everything went fine. ]

> dean

>

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I say, "I'm going to be a Marina girl". (The women in the Marina neighborhood in SF where I live are uniformly gorgeous. It's kinda where the beautiful people live. I want to be one of those sleek, gorgeous girls. It's vain, but hey...whatever works.)

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> Pam Marsh> > --- Dean <NLzooks@y...> wrote:> > > Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat> > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing> > something....to avoid eating something, for> > instance.>I say HALT!ette, are you HUNGRY, ANGRY, LONELY OR TIRED? If it had been 2 or 3 hours since I last ate, I am probably really hungry and need to eat. If I am angry or lonely (or stressed or in pain), I don't need food, I need to deal with those emotional states in non-food ways. If I am tired I need rest, not a cookie. RegardsetteRNY 1/22/04 Leger KPNWTop weight 387Pre-op 350Current wt 245Goal 225

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I say, "I'm going to be a Marina girl". (The women in the Marina neighborhood in SF where I live are uniformly gorgeous. It's kinda where the beautiful people live. I want to be one of those sleek, gorgeous girls. It's vain, but hey...whatever works.)

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> Pam Marsh> > --- Dean <NLzooks@y...> wrote:> > > Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat> > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing> > something....to avoid eating something, for> > instance.>I say HALT!ette, are you HUNGRY, ANGRY, LONELY OR TIRED? If it had been 2 or 3 hours since I last ate, I am probably really hungry and need to eat. If I am angry or lonely (or stressed or in pain), I don't need food, I need to deal with those emotional states in non-food ways. If I am tired I need rest, not a cookie. RegardsetteRNY 1/22/04 Leger KPNWTop weight 387Pre-op 350Current wt 245Goal 225

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Pam,

I should have said that to myself last night as I fininshed the last

half of a Ben & Jerry's Pint. Oh well, now there is nothing left in

the house but Stage 1 and Stage 2 foods. I am going to Psych myself

out that I have already had the Surgery and eat only these foods and

portion sizes. I am through dorking around and am getting to

business.

Jeanne

>

> > Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat

> > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > instance.

> >

> > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > urine. I came up with a solution which has worked

> > for me for decades: When having this problem I would

> > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy. The

> > thought of him would totally distract my mind and

> > then everything went fine. ]

> > dean

> >

>

>

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Pam,

I should have said that to myself last night as I fininshed the last

half of a Ben & Jerry's Pint. Oh well, now there is nothing left in

the house but Stage 1 and Stage 2 foods. I am going to Psych myself

out that I have already had the Surgery and eat only these foods and

portion sizes. I am through dorking around and am getting to

business.

Jeanne

>

> > Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat

> > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > instance.

> >

> > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > urine. I came up with a solution which has worked

> > for me for decades: When having this problem I would

> > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy. The

> > thought of him would totally distract my mind and

> > then everything went fine. ]

> > dean

> >

>

>

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Pam,

I should have said that to myself last night as I fininshed the last

half of a Ben & Jerry's Pint. Oh well, now there is nothing left in

the house but Stage 1 and Stage 2 foods. I am going to Psych myself

out that I have already had the Surgery and eat only these foods and

portion sizes. I am through dorking around and am getting to

business.

Jeanne

>

> > Do any of you have special mantras that you repeat

> > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > instance.

> >

> > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > urine. I came up with a solution which has worked

> > for me for decades: When having this problem I would

> > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy. The

> > thought of him would totally distract my mind and

> > then everything went fine. ]

> > dean

> >

>

>

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You are post surgery and you can have ice cream. I

had sugar free popcicles and bought the was that had

cream cicles in them. It bothered my tummy so I can

only imagine what real ice cream would do. Well as

long as you enjoyed it with no problems. Hey, I

suppose every once in a while it is okay. Just be

mindful.

Take care.

Pam Marsh

--- topazmisskitty topazmisskitty@...> wrote:

> Pam,

>

> I should have said that to myself last night as I

> fininshed the last

> half of a Ben & Jerry's Pint. Oh well, now there is

> nothing left in

> the house but Stage 1 and Stage 2 foods. I am going

> to Psych myself

> out that I have already had the Surgery and eat only

> these foods and

> portion sizes. I am through dorking around and am

> getting to

> business.

>

> Jeanne

>

> >

> > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> repeat

> > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > instance.

> > >

> > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> worked

> > > for me for decades: When having this problem I

> would

> > > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy.

> The

> > > thought of him would totally distract my mind

> and

> > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > dean

> > >

> >

> >

> > __________________________________________________

> >

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5% you say. That is so cool!!!! You can do this. I

no that you can. If you can, cut down on the carbs

and do more protein. You will see a drop. It was my

last 3-5 pounds that were the hardest but it happened

and it will happen for you. Hang in there no matter

what. You are way too close to stop now and I am NOT

going to let you. No way honey. Its so worth the

fight honey and you are not alone.

Pam Marsh

--- topazmisskitty topazmisskitty@...> wrote:

> Pam, no I am not post surgery, I am working on my

> last 5%. I have

> been staring at that ice cream for 6 weeks while my

> son was away at

> Grandpas and various summer camps. I looked at it as

> my final

> farewell to fatdom. I am so ready and want it so

> bad that I feel it

> has given me a sort of release and a permission to

> go ahead to do

> it. It is funny how we relate food into our lives,

> which is why

> people are morbidily obese.

>

> Well no more, I will fight, fight, fight!!!

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid

> doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to

> use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't

> release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem

> I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name

> of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me

> crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my

> mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

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5% you say. That is so cool!!!! You can do this. I

no that you can. If you can, cut down on the carbs

and do more protein. You will see a drop. It was my

last 3-5 pounds that were the hardest but it happened

and it will happen for you. Hang in there no matter

what. You are way too close to stop now and I am NOT

going to let you. No way honey. Its so worth the

fight honey and you are not alone.

Pam Marsh

--- topazmisskitty topazmisskitty@...> wrote:

> Pam, no I am not post surgery, I am working on my

> last 5%. I have

> been staring at that ice cream for 6 weeks while my

> son was away at

> Grandpas and various summer camps. I looked at it as

> my final

> farewell to fatdom. I am so ready and want it so

> bad that I feel it

> has given me a sort of release and a permission to

> go ahead to do

> it. It is funny how we relate food into our lives,

> which is why

> people are morbidily obese.

>

> Well no more, I will fight, fight, fight!!!

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid

> doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to

> use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't

> release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem

> I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name

> of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me

> crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my

> mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > >

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5% you say. That is so cool!!!! You can do this. I

no that you can. If you can, cut down on the carbs

and do more protein. You will see a drop. It was my

last 3-5 pounds that were the hardest but it happened

and it will happen for you. Hang in there no matter

what. You are way too close to stop now and I am NOT

going to let you. No way honey. Its so worth the

fight honey and you are not alone.

Pam Marsh

--- topazmisskitty topazmisskitty@...> wrote:

> Pam, no I am not post surgery, I am working on my

> last 5%. I have

> been staring at that ice cream for 6 weeks while my

> son was away at

> Grandpas and various summer camps. I looked at it as

> my final

> farewell to fatdom. I am so ready and want it so

> bad that I feel it

> has given me a sort of release and a permission to

> go ahead to do

> it. It is funny how we relate food into our lives,

> which is why

> people are morbidily obese.

>

> Well no more, I will fight, fight, fight!!!

>

> Jeanne

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid

> doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to

> use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't

> release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem

> I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name

> of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me

> crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my

> mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> __________________________________________________

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Gee, Ben & Jerry's ice cream sounds so good right now. Though I can't

have it now, I'd rather have the weightloss instead. I went to my

first Kaiser post-op appt. today. I went from 285.5lbs to 269lbs

since June 22, 2005 (lap RNY). They were pleased I wasn't losing

fast, (pleased?). My waist & hips measurements dropped from 49 " & 64 "

to 46 " & 57 " . Original measurements were from my weight at 324lbs

orientation Feb. 2004. I also found out my cholestrol at surgery was

183, normal, compared to 204 Dec. 2004. Just wondering, does Kaiser

in Northern California give vitamin b-12 shots? Here in Riverside

Kaiser they don't give vitamin b-12 shots, you have to take

sublingual b-12 once a week. Told doctor taking them everyday.

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Gee, Ben & Jerry's ice cream sounds so good right now. Though I can't

have it now, I'd rather have the weightloss instead. I went to my

first Kaiser post-op appt. today. I went from 285.5lbs to 269lbs

since June 22, 2005 (lap RNY). They were pleased I wasn't losing

fast, (pleased?). My waist & hips measurements dropped from 49 " & 64 "

to 46 " & 57 " . Original measurements were from my weight at 324lbs

orientation Feb. 2004. I also found out my cholestrol at surgery was

183, normal, compared to 204 Dec. 2004. Just wondering, does Kaiser

in Northern California give vitamin b-12 shots? Here in Riverside

Kaiser they don't give vitamin b-12 shots, you have to take

sublingual b-12 once a week. Told doctor taking them everyday.

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Gee, Ben & Jerry's ice cream sounds so good right now. Though I can't

have it now, I'd rather have the weightloss instead. I went to my

first Kaiser post-op appt. today. I went from 285.5lbs to 269lbs

since June 22, 2005 (lap RNY). They were pleased I wasn't losing

fast, (pleased?). My waist & hips measurements dropped from 49 " & 64 "

to 46 " & 57 " . Original measurements were from my weight at 324lbs

orientation Feb. 2004. I also found out my cholestrol at surgery was

183, normal, compared to 204 Dec. 2004. Just wondering, does Kaiser

in Northern California give vitamin b-12 shots? Here in Riverside

Kaiser they don't give vitamin b-12 shots, you have to take

sublingual b-12 once a week. Told doctor taking them everyday.

> > > >

> > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that you

> > > repeat

> > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid doing

> > > > > something....to avoid eating something, for

> > > > > instance.

> > > > >

> > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to use

> > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't release

> > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > worked

> > > > > for me for decades: When having this problem I

> > > would

> > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name of

> > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me crazy.

> > > The

> > > > > thought of him would totally distract my mind

> > > and

> > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > dean

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > __________________________________________________

> > > >

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Congrats . I am not sure if Kaiser gives B12

shots or not but I am shocked that you are only taking

the B12 once per week instead of twice per week.

Pam Marsh

--- astroestell@...> wrote:

> Gee, Ben & Jerry's ice cream sounds so good right

> now. Though I can't

> have it now, I'd rather have the weightloss instead.

> I went to my

> first Kaiser post-op appt. today. I went from

> 285.5lbs to 269lbs

> since June 22, 2005 (lap RNY). They were pleased I

> wasn't losing

> fast, (pleased?). My waist & hips measurements

> dropped from 49 " & 64 "

> to 46 " & 57 " . Original measurements were from my

> weight at 324lbs

> orientation Feb. 2004. I also found out my

> cholestrol at surgery was

> 183, normal, compared to 204 Dec. 2004. Just

> wondering, does Kaiser

> in Northern California give vitamin b-12 shots? Here

> in Riverside

> Kaiser they don't give vitamin b-12 shots, you have

> to take

> sublingual b-12 once a week. Told doctor taking them

> everyday.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that

> you

> > > > repeat

> > > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid

> doing

> > > > > > something....to avoid eating something,

> for

> > > > > > instance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to

> use

> > > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't

> release

> > > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > > worked

> > > > > > for me for decades: When having this

> problem I

> > > > would

> > > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name

> of

> > > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me

> crazy.

> > > > The

> > > > > > thought of him would totally distract my

> mind

> > > > and

> > > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > > dean

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > >

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Congrats . I am not sure if Kaiser gives B12

shots or not but I am shocked that you are only taking

the B12 once per week instead of twice per week.

Pam Marsh

--- astroestell@...> wrote:

> Gee, Ben & Jerry's ice cream sounds so good right

> now. Though I can't

> have it now, I'd rather have the weightloss instead.

> I went to my

> first Kaiser post-op appt. today. I went from

> 285.5lbs to 269lbs

> since June 22, 2005 (lap RNY). They were pleased I

> wasn't losing

> fast, (pleased?). My waist & hips measurements

> dropped from 49 " & 64 "

> to 46 " & 57 " . Original measurements were from my

> weight at 324lbs

> orientation Feb. 2004. I also found out my

> cholestrol at surgery was

> 183, normal, compared to 204 Dec. 2004. Just

> wondering, does Kaiser

> in Northern California give vitamin b-12 shots? Here

> in Riverside

> Kaiser they don't give vitamin b-12 shots, you have

> to take

> sublingual b-12 once a week. Told doctor taking them

> everyday.

>

> > > > >

> > > > > > Do any of you have special mantras that

> you

> > > > repeat

> > > > > > to yourself when you want to do or avoid

> doing

> > > > > > something....to avoid eating something,

> for

> > > > > > instance.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > [For example, it used to be hard for me to

> use

> > > > > > urinals at times, bladder just wouldn't

> release

> > > > > > urine. I came up with a solution which has

> > > > worked

> > > > > > for me for decades: When having this

> problem I

> > > > would

> > > > > > simply repeat over and over again the name

> of

> > > > > > someone I had to work with that drove me

> crazy.

> > > > The

> > > > > > thought of him would totally distract my

> mind

> > > > and

> > > > > > then everything went fine. ]

> > > > > > dean

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> __________________________________________________

> > > > >

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