Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Pam B... How long ago did you get weighed, etc? Perhaps you can revisit the amount you need to lose before the surgery with the physician/surgeon. It is awfully difficult to lose 100 lbs. by yourself, although it can be done..particularly when the last pounds you put on should come off pretty readily. I sounds like, unless you have an undiagnose health problem causing the weight gain, you've been doing some out of control, emotional eating. I think it might help you to dig into why you are doing it. Are there stressors in your life causing you to turn to food? is there something else you could do instead that will serve to either comfort you in a more constructive way (exercise, doing something creative, taking a bubble bath, confronting any anger directly instead of forcing it down with food.. Is the thing causing you to eat so much that you are afraid of surgery? Of being thin? Of failing at this, the thing that seems like the final resort? Figure out those fears. Being fat serves a purpose for you. It may not be a healthy purpose...but it is there for a reason . Try to figure out what this fat is insulating, or protecting you from. Do you still need it there? If you feel you do...is there something else that you could use that would provide you with the same level of insulation? Something healthier, or more constructive? There are many layers to the onion. You need to peel and explore why it was that you weren't ready to let go yet. If food has been your nurturer, your best friend...well, it is scary to give up. If extra weight was protecting you from sexual advances, and you fear that due to molestation or for some other reason in your past...well, you need to deal with that, too. Use this time...whether it be losing 100 lbs. or 20...to really expore yourself, your motivations, your fears, your psychological needs...any barrier you might be erecting to sabotage your efforts. Be kind with yourself. And try to get yourself to the place where you really GET that the fat just isn't working for you anymore. It's not accomplishing what you need it to accomplish...or it's at least not doing it in a way that makes you healthy and happy. And then, be prepared to let it go. Like a bad relationship. Because that's what this has been. And even the promise of a wonderful relationship sometimes isn't strong enough to tear us away from abusive ones. We have to be ready. And we have to feel we deserve it...you know? Start writing and thinking...and in the meantime...start changing certain behaviours. Do you drink beverages with calories? Change to water, unsweetened ice tea, Crystal light...something without calories. start working towards 64 oz. or more a day. If walking hurts...give yourself very small walking goals: you know, a half of a lap a day. make it doable. Make it achievable. give yourself a gold star on your calendar every time you do it. Focus on portions: only one...and make the portions a bit smaller every day. condition yourself to have a plate that is not full. Start practicing chewing things 20 to 30 times each. Start drinking water only between meals, waiting an hour after your meal to start drinking. Start making better choices. If you are at a restaurant, decide beforehand NO bread. go for fish. eat the salad. Don't order dessert. watch your alcohol. Lifestyle changes. just start that way. Also, invest in sugarfree popsicles. They are a God send. feels like a real treat, takes a while to eat...and only 15 calories. Try going for salads without heavy dressings. Try asking the waiter to take the bread away. Try to stick to bottled water when you are at restaurants. Start small. And the weight will begint odrop off. When you make those lifestyle changes, you are investing in this surgery, into your future. because these are things you'll have to do post surgery. You can do this. Jsut take a step. Robynn t_perry2 wrote: Pam B-- Why would you need to lose l00 lbs.? You can't weigh 1000 lbs. Right?> I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?)> Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience?> If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement.> > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Pam B... How long ago did you get weighed, etc? Perhaps you can revisit the amount you need to lose before the surgery with the physician/surgeon. It is awfully difficult to lose 100 lbs. by yourself, although it can be done..particularly when the last pounds you put on should come off pretty readily. I sounds like, unless you have an undiagnose health problem causing the weight gain, you've been doing some out of control, emotional eating. I think it might help you to dig into why you are doing it. Are there stressors in your life causing you to turn to food? is there something else you could do instead that will serve to either comfort you in a more constructive way (exercise, doing something creative, taking a bubble bath, confronting any anger directly instead of forcing it down with food.. Is the thing causing you to eat so much that you are afraid of surgery? Of being thin? Of failing at this, the thing that seems like the final resort? Figure out those fears. Being fat serves a purpose for you. It may not be a healthy purpose...but it is there for a reason . Try to figure out what this fat is insulating, or protecting you from. Do you still need it there? If you feel you do...is there something else that you could use that would provide you with the same level of insulation? Something healthier, or more constructive? There are many layers to the onion. You need to peel and explore why it was that you weren't ready to let go yet. If food has been your nurturer, your best friend...well, it is scary to give up. If extra weight was protecting you from sexual advances, and you fear that due to molestation or for some other reason in your past...well, you need to deal with that, too. Use this time...whether it be losing 100 lbs. or 20...to really expore yourself, your motivations, your fears, your psychological needs...any barrier you might be erecting to sabotage your efforts. Be kind with yourself. And try to get yourself to the place where you really GET that the fat just isn't working for you anymore. It's not accomplishing what you need it to accomplish...or it's at least not doing it in a way that makes you healthy and happy. And then, be prepared to let it go. Like a bad relationship. Because that's what this has been. And even the promise of a wonderful relationship sometimes isn't strong enough to tear us away from abusive ones. We have to be ready. And we have to feel we deserve it...you know? Start writing and thinking...and in the meantime...start changing certain behaviours. Do you drink beverages with calories? Change to water, unsweetened ice tea, Crystal light...something without calories. start working towards 64 oz. or more a day. If walking hurts...give yourself very small walking goals: you know, a half of a lap a day. make it doable. Make it achievable. give yourself a gold star on your calendar every time you do it. Focus on portions: only one...and make the portions a bit smaller every day. condition yourself to have a plate that is not full. Start practicing chewing things 20 to 30 times each. Start drinking water only between meals, waiting an hour after your meal to start drinking. Start making better choices. If you are at a restaurant, decide beforehand NO bread. go for fish. eat the salad. Don't order dessert. watch your alcohol. Lifestyle changes. just start that way. Also, invest in sugarfree popsicles. They are a God send. feels like a real treat, takes a while to eat...and only 15 calories. Try going for salads without heavy dressings. Try asking the waiter to take the bread away. Try to stick to bottled water when you are at restaurants. Start small. And the weight will begint odrop off. When you make those lifestyle changes, you are investing in this surgery, into your future. because these are things you'll have to do post surgery. You can do this. Jsut take a step. Robynn t_perry2 wrote: Pam B-- Why would you need to lose l00 lbs.? You can't weigh 1000 lbs. Right?> I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?)> Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience?> If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement.> > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Thank you so very much, Robynn! You asked many questions that have needed to be answered for quite some time. Last week, I signed up for group at Kaiser Stockton entitled " Binge Eating " , and am hoping that this class will bring me to some of those answers that I need. I will also take the other suggestions that I've heard tonight and will contact SSF to inquire as to how much weight should be lost at this point, before surgery would be considered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Pam, Thank you for posting. I am so sorry your struggling right now. Losing the dirst 10% is such a hard thing to do. For me I followed the 1200 cal program (which is in our file I think) I had to lose like 38 pounds and only lost 29, Dr Umbach did not seem to worry so much. I think they are tuffer on people now. Hang in there and keep posting. Shell > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Pam, Thank you for posting. I am so sorry your struggling right now. Losing the dirst 10% is such a hard thing to do. For me I followed the 1200 cal program (which is in our file I think) I had to lose like 38 pounds and only lost 29, Dr Umbach did not seem to worry so much. I think they are tuffer on people now. Hang in there and keep posting. Shell > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Pam, Thank you for posting. I am so sorry your struggling right now. Losing the dirst 10% is such a hard thing to do. For me I followed the 1200 cal program (which is in our file I think) I had to lose like 38 pounds and only lost 29, Dr Umbach did not seem to worry so much. I think they are tuffer on people now. Hang in there and keep posting. Shell > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Things have changed a lot in the last 3 years at Kaiser. What facility where you approved for? If you know the facility, contact them and ask to be seen. It seems to me that they would take your weight now and then ask you to lose 10% of that. Tina Dr. Baggs Surgery: 5/24/05 2 months out today and down -45 pounds -81 pounds total! > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Things have changed a lot in the last 3 years at Kaiser. What facility where you approved for? If you know the facility, contact them and ask to be seen. It seems to me that they would take your weight now and then ask you to lose 10% of that. Tina Dr. Baggs Surgery: 5/24/05 2 months out today and down -45 pounds -81 pounds total! > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 Hi Pamela Have you re-entered a program? If not that should be your first step is to get in contact with the bariatric department, go to pre op classes and attend face to face support groups in your area. Speak to your surgeon. 100 pounds would mean you weigh 1000 pounds which I doubt. Take it one step at a time. Start by giving up one thing at a time. I did Atkins to lose my 10%. If I can be of any support or encouragement or of any help at all..just let me know! Huggles Beginning weight: 315 After 10%: 283 Open RNY: August 19,2003 Current weight: 159 Goal weight: 135 Tummy tuck/arm reconstructive surgery: Sept 1,2004 > I was approved for surgery approx three years ago, but was told that > I needed to lose 10% prior to surgery. I never did lose the weight, > in fact, I have since put on another 50 lbs, (if you can believe!?). > I am so heavy now that I am unable to walk long distances, (no more > than just a few hundred yards). I cannot shop at a grocery store > without a scooter/cart, and am certainly unable to take my 4 y/o to > a park, movies, etc. (I won't even go into the co-morbidities that I > have, i.e severe sleep apnea, pre-diabetes, high blood pressure, > etc.) I so very much want to lose the weight, primarily so that I > can be more mobile for my son and give him the kind of childhood he > should have. But I am so very frustated with myself... > How do I get back on track? Can I get back on track? I would need > to lose about 100 lbs before approval of the surgery, and yet I feel > as if this is impossible to do. I don't know how to begin; I've > forgotten how to begin, it has been so long. (What sort of eating > plan did some of you follow to lose the 10%?) > Is there anyone out there who has gone through a similar experience? > If so, I sure could use a few, (or alot of) words of encouragement. > > Pam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I think, Pam, starting up with a live support group to help you get back on track is a great idea. And congrats on making the decision to call your bariatrics program tomorrow. They will tell you what you need to do. Best of luck, Laurie ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I think, Pam, starting up with a live support group to help you get back on track is a great idea. And congrats on making the decision to call your bariatrics program tomorrow. They will tell you what you need to do. Best of luck, Laurie ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2005 Report Share Posted July 24, 2005 I think, Pam, starting up with a live support group to help you get back on track is a great idea. And congrats on making the decision to call your bariatrics program tomorrow. They will tell you what you need to do. Best of luck, Laurie ____________________________________________________ Start your day with Yahoo! - make it your home page http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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