Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi Ian Yes I have been diagnosed with depression and it is directly related to the Chiari. I take 150mg Zoloft daily which helps tremendously. I am not allowed to drive due to seizure activity and must rely on others for assistance. This frustrates me greatly. It also frustrates me that I have to use a wheelchair because I cannot walk very far and leg weakness causes me to fall. Is there any wonder I get depressed? LOL Charlotte in MO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: chiari > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Depression > I have a questionrelated to depression.. Have any of you been > diagnosed with depressin? > > Also I want to inquire as toy if Chiari Malformation in any way > contributes to depression.. I do understand that depression is a > chemical inbalance but just wondering about the correlation between > depression and Chiari > > Thanks > > http://iamcelcius.50megs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi Ian Yes I have been diagnosed with depression and it is directly related to the Chiari. I take 150mg Zoloft daily which helps tremendously. I am not allowed to drive due to seizure activity and must rely on others for assistance. This frustrates me greatly. It also frustrates me that I have to use a wheelchair because I cannot walk very far and leg weakness causes me to fall. Is there any wonder I get depressed? LOL Charlotte in MO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: chiari > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Depression > I have a questionrelated to depression.. Have any of you been > diagnosed with depressin? > > Also I want to inquire as toy if Chiari Malformation in any way > contributes to depression.. I do understand that depression is a > chemical inbalance but just wondering about the correlation between > depression and Chiari > > Thanks > > http://iamcelcius.50megs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 Hi Ian Yes I have been diagnosed with depression and it is directly related to the Chiari. I take 150mg Zoloft daily which helps tremendously. I am not allowed to drive due to seizure activity and must rely on others for assistance. This frustrates me greatly. It also frustrates me that I have to use a wheelchair because I cannot walk very far and leg weakness causes me to fall. Is there any wonder I get depressed? LOL Charlotte in MO ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ To: chiari > Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2003 12:01 AM Subject: Depression > I have a questionrelated to depression.. Have any of you been > diagnosed with depressin? > > Also I want to inquire as toy if Chiari Malformation in any way > contributes to depression.. I do understand that depression is a > chemical inbalance but just wondering about the correlation between > depression and Chiari > > Thanks > > http://iamcelcius.50megs.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 , I am glad that your sister is on an antidepressant. That is one thing we can do for treatment. I am glad that she is up and mobile, too. Being able to get out of bed keeps the body moving and oxygen flowing. I have gotten confused and forgot what hospital she was in and what city in Indiana? Karyn E. , RN Founder / Executive Director Pancreatitis Association International Corp. Office: Indps, IN, USA 1- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 , I am glad that your sister is on an antidepressant. That is one thing we can do for treatment. I am glad that she is up and mobile, too. Being able to get out of bed keeps the body moving and oxygen flowing. I have gotten confused and forgot what hospital she was in and what city in Indiana? Karyn E. , RN Founder / Executive Director Pancreatitis Association International Corp. Office: Indps, IN, USA 1- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 , I am glad that your sister is on an antidepressant. That is one thing we can do for treatment. I am glad that she is up and mobile, too. Being able to get out of bed keeps the body moving and oxygen flowing. I have gotten confused and forgot what hospital she was in and what city in Indiana? Karyn E. , RN Founder / Executive Director Pancreatitis Association International Corp. Office: Indps, IN, USA 1- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Next time you go up to see her, ask if you can take her outside on the hospital grounds. Last 2 times Cassie was in they gave us crap for not taking her outside. They told us if she did not feel up to walking they'd get her a whellchair. other things that may help life her spirits are: 1) when was the last time she had her hair done. Does she have a regular beatiticain. If so contact her, there many caring and compassionate people out there, some charge no more than a normal visit others, charge nothing and see it as a kind deed 2) You said she goes and looks at the babies. Many hospitals are in dire need of volunteers, yeah she has pancreatitis but that doesn't mean she can't feed a bottle touch works wonders for both baby and feeder. 3) Take a look at the pediatric ward. In our area, pediatrics have very large activity rooms. With Daily events and crafts taking place. Take her to go play and have some fun laughter is the best medicine. When was the last time she finger painted, or had her toenails each painted a different color. They also have a teen room which includes, pool table, air hockey, dart board and stereo. The hospital in Portland also had Computers she could get on and e-mail friends. 4) if they'll let you take her out on a day trip do it. - if they won't bring it to her. have a day at the pool- all visitor must show up in bathing suit. Anything to make her feel better and lift her spirits. Have a party where everyone drinks clear fluids out of wine glasses. 5) Get her friends up to see her. Let them see she's not going to bite them and she is still the same person she was prior to January. Cassie still finds it hard for many of her friends to understand, some feel they can catch it too. You'd be suprised how much all of this helps, you too! Be a kid. I learned to be funny in the face of illnes about 25 years ago from a 10 year old boy dying form bone cancer. I used to go stay with him 3 hours a week so his mom could have down time. Every time he had a new visiting nurse come to his house, or a new one at the hospital he had a standard joke he'd play on them, no matter how down the chemo got him he always remembered to laugh. Anyway, Bobby used to take his morning Apple juice, pour it into his freshly sanitized urinal wait till the new nurse walked in the door and then drink it. The reaction was the same all the time and the lift he got was better than any meds Patty Hurst Bangor, ME Maine State Rep PAI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 3, 2003 Report Share Posted April 3, 2003 Next time you go up to see her, ask if you can take her outside on the hospital grounds. Last 2 times Cassie was in they gave us crap for not taking her outside. They told us if she did not feel up to walking they'd get her a whellchair. other things that may help life her spirits are: 1) when was the last time she had her hair done. Does she have a regular beatiticain. If so contact her, there many caring and compassionate people out there, some charge no more than a normal visit others, charge nothing and see it as a kind deed 2) You said she goes and looks at the babies. Many hospitals are in dire need of volunteers, yeah she has pancreatitis but that doesn't mean she can't feed a bottle touch works wonders for both baby and feeder. 3) Take a look at the pediatric ward. In our area, pediatrics have very large activity rooms. With Daily events and crafts taking place. Take her to go play and have some fun laughter is the best medicine. When was the last time she finger painted, or had her toenails each painted a different color. They also have a teen room which includes, pool table, air hockey, dart board and stereo. The hospital in Portland also had Computers she could get on and e-mail friends. 4) if they'll let you take her out on a day trip do it. - if they won't bring it to her. have a day at the pool- all visitor must show up in bathing suit. Anything to make her feel better and lift her spirits. Have a party where everyone drinks clear fluids out of wine glasses. 5) Get her friends up to see her. Let them see she's not going to bite them and she is still the same person she was prior to January. Cassie still finds it hard for many of her friends to understand, some feel they can catch it too. You'd be suprised how much all of this helps, you too! Be a kid. I learned to be funny in the face of illnes about 25 years ago from a 10 year old boy dying form bone cancer. I used to go stay with him 3 hours a week so his mom could have down time. Every time he had a new visiting nurse come to his house, or a new one at the hospital he had a standard joke he'd play on them, no matter how down the chemo got him he always remembered to laugh. Anyway, Bobby used to take his morning Apple juice, pour it into his freshly sanitized urinal wait till the new nurse walked in the door and then drink it. The reaction was the same all the time and the lift he got was better than any meds Patty Hurst Bangor, ME Maine State Rep PAI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 , Have fun at your Baby Shower!! I wish I could have one. But this is my 2nd baby! You said that you are on Prozac. Are you able to breast feed? It really does not matter to me at this point, if I can be happy and not worry then that will override the breast feeding. I also had breast reduction in Aug so I don't know if they will work anyways. And with my daughter I had to supplement with formula anyways. Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 , Have fun at your Baby Shower!! I wish I could have one. But this is my 2nd baby! You said that you are on Prozac. Are you able to breast feed? It really does not matter to me at this point, if I can be happy and not worry then that will override the breast feeding. I also had breast reduction in Aug so I don't know if they will work anyways. And with my daughter I had to supplement with formula anyways. Tricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I am not planning on breast feeding. But I don't think that would matter cause I know of others who breast fed taking prozac or other antidepressants. Re: depression , Have fun at your Baby Shower!! I wish I could have one. But this is my 2nd baby! You said that you are on Prozac. Are you able to breast feed? It really does not matter to me at this point, if I can be happy and not worry then that will override the breast feeding. I also had breast reduction in Aug so I don't know if they will work anyways. And with my daughter I had to supplement with formula anyways. Tricia Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 I am not planning on breast feeding. But I don't think that would matter cause I know of others who breast fed taking prozac or other antidepressants. Re: depression , Have fun at your Baby Shower!! I wish I could have one. But this is my 2nd baby! You said that you are on Prozac. Are you able to breast feed? It really does not matter to me at this point, if I can be happy and not worry then that will override the breast feeding. I also had breast reduction in Aug so I don't know if they will work anyways. And with my daughter I had to supplement with formula anyways. Tricia Children are a blessing, and a gift from the Lord. -Psalm 127:3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2004 Report Share Posted January 13, 2004 Diane, I knew that I was depressed because I would sit at home and the phone would ring and I would not want to talk to who was calling. My daughter seemed to do everything wrong. She is only 3 (in Feb) but everything that she does I get so mad. I just want to sit and watch tv, by myself of course, and not talk to anyone-including my husband and daughter. I think that it was just little things like that. Hope this helps. My doctor today said that I could start the Zoloft after 10 weeks. That is only about 1 1/2 weeks away. Tricia ps Dr also said that you can breastfeed while on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:25:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenk8@... writes: > I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days > and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems > with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so > much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I > can hold out. Can anyone help me? > the brain can take up to 12 months to heal from the effects of hypo...and that is assuming one is on an optimal dose. there is also the possibility of permanent central nervous system damage if one has been hypo for a long period of time - which could manifest in different ways - depression, short term memory problems, cognitive problems. But I would make sure you're at your optimal dose first...and give it months to resolve. The Prozac has flouride in it...which interferes with thyroid hormone. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:25:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenk8@... writes: > I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days > and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems > with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so > much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I > can hold out. Can anyone help me? > the brain can take up to 12 months to heal from the effects of hypo...and that is assuming one is on an optimal dose. there is also the possibility of permanent central nervous system damage if one has been hypo for a long period of time - which could manifest in different ways - depression, short term memory problems, cognitive problems. But I would make sure you're at your optimal dose first...and give it months to resolve. The Prozac has flouride in it...which interferes with thyroid hormone. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/2005 1:25:33 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenk8@... writes: > I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days > and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems > with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so > much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I > can hold out. Can anyone help me? > the brain can take up to 12 months to heal from the effects of hypo...and that is assuming one is on an optimal dose. there is also the possibility of permanent central nervous system damage if one has been hypo for a long period of time - which could manifest in different ways - depression, short term memory problems, cognitive problems. But I would make sure you're at your optimal dose first...and give it months to resolve. The Prozac has flouride in it...which interferes with thyroid hormone. Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/2005 2:00:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenk8@... writes: > So if I give in to the pain and start taking the prozac, I'll be > doing worse damage? > > I'm just saying the prozac isn't the best anti-depressant for a hypo person because of the flouride. I also have some questions about how a brain is supposed to normalize when there are other chemical actions going on from the anti-depressants. But that's my opinion. It's also my opinion that if depression is severe, a person needs additional help. So just carefully consider the pros and cons. And maybe inquire about a different anti-depressant? Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 In a message dated 3/19/2005 2:00:00 PM Eastern Standard Time, karenk8@... writes: > So if I give in to the pain and start taking the prozac, I'll be > doing worse damage? > > I'm just saying the prozac isn't the best anti-depressant for a hypo person because of the flouride. I also have some questions about how a brain is supposed to normalize when there are other chemical actions going on from the anti-depressants. But that's my opinion. It's also my opinion that if depression is severe, a person needs additional help. So just carefully consider the pros and cons. And maybe inquire about a different anti-depressant? Cindi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 , some people NEED antidepressants while waiting for the Armour to do it's thing. I doubt a couple weeks on them, or just taking them when you have a bad day is going to hurt you. I would take some but plan on it being temporary till you get your Armour dosage up. Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 , some people NEED antidepressants while waiting for the Armour to do it's thing. I doubt a couple weeks on them, or just taking them when you have a bad day is going to hurt you. I would take some but plan on it being temporary till you get your Armour dosage up. Artistic Grooming Hurricane, West Virginia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 So if I give in to the pain and start taking the prozac, I'll be doing worse damage? kk The Prozac has flouride in it...which interferes with thyroid > hormone. > Cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 KK I don't need to tell you how dangerous taking anti-depressants can be. Keep sending emails to the list. I realize if your condition is hormonal related talking probably won't do much good, but we may be able to find something that will help. So here is my phone number if you need to talk to someone. I am home pretty much all of the weekend, today I will only be out a few hours around 5 p.m. And then I will probably run my dogs around 10 p.m. My schedule Monday to Thursday I am at work from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. and I also work Monday & Wednesday evening from 6:15 to 8:45 p.m. There are probably others on the list that would be happy to help your through the dark hours. If you can take some iodine, please others on the list jump in here if you know her symptoms better then I do. Use plant iodine. I don't know if you have Naka products where you are, but they have a plant based iodine. Take only 10 drops under your tongue, or in a small bit of water. But to go under your tongue would be best. THIS ONLY IF YOU CAN TOLERATE IODINE. Have you tried SAM-e? There is also a new one out that tried for a short time, and it seemed to be helping a bit, I think it is called Serene. St. swort? Also if you are taking a good broad spectrum multi vitamin and mineral, you might try adding extra niacin, non-flushing kind is okay. Look there is a free book that is very helpful for treating depression with supplements. The book can be downloaded from http://www.TheWayUp.com it is written by a psychiatrist - Dr. Pricilla Slagle. This book is great at explaining about depression, and what to do. This was also the first hint that I had about thyroid and its role in depression. Yes she sells supplements, but you certainly don't have to buy them from her. In some cases if she has put together a combination of ingredients it might not be a bad idea. Hope this helps. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I started taking thyroid-s in Feb., after being on synthroid for 3 years and finding out it was doing nothing for me. In the past I had been put on antidepressants ( before realizing it was my thyroid) and have since gone off of them. I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I can hold out. Can anyone help me? kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 KK I don't need to tell you how dangerous taking anti-depressants can be. Keep sending emails to the list. I realize if your condition is hormonal related talking probably won't do much good, but we may be able to find something that will help. So here is my phone number if you need to talk to someone. I am home pretty much all of the weekend, today I will only be out a few hours around 5 p.m. And then I will probably run my dogs around 10 p.m. My schedule Monday to Thursday I am at work from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. and I also work Monday & Wednesday evening from 6:15 to 8:45 p.m. There are probably others on the list that would be happy to help your through the dark hours. If you can take some iodine, please others on the list jump in here if you know her symptoms better then I do. Use plant iodine. I don't know if you have Naka products where you are, but they have a plant based iodine. Take only 10 drops under your tongue, or in a small bit of water. But to go under your tongue would be best. THIS ONLY IF YOU CAN TOLERATE IODINE. Have you tried SAM-e? There is also a new one out that tried for a short time, and it seemed to be helping a bit, I think it is called Serene. St. swort? Also if you are taking a good broad spectrum multi vitamin and mineral, you might try adding extra niacin, non-flushing kind is okay. Look there is a free book that is very helpful for treating depression with supplements. The book can be downloaded from http://www.TheWayUp.com it is written by a psychiatrist - Dr. Pricilla Slagle. This book is great at explaining about depression, and what to do. This was also the first hint that I had about thyroid and its role in depression. Yes she sells supplements, but you certainly don't have to buy them from her. In some cases if she has put together a combination of ingredients it might not be a bad idea. Hope this helps. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I started taking thyroid-s in Feb., after being on synthroid for 3 years and finding out it was doing nothing for me. In the past I had been put on antidepressants ( before realizing it was my thyroid) and have since gone off of them. I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I can hold out. Can anyone help me? kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 KK I don't need to tell you how dangerous taking anti-depressants can be. Keep sending emails to the list. I realize if your condition is hormonal related talking probably won't do much good, but we may be able to find something that will help. So here is my phone number if you need to talk to someone. I am home pretty much all of the weekend, today I will only be out a few hours around 5 p.m. And then I will probably run my dogs around 10 p.m. My schedule Monday to Thursday I am at work from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. and I also work Monday & Wednesday evening from 6:15 to 8:45 p.m. There are probably others on the list that would be happy to help your through the dark hours. If you can take some iodine, please others on the list jump in here if you know her symptoms better then I do. Use plant iodine. I don't know if you have Naka products where you are, but they have a plant based iodine. Take only 10 drops under your tongue, or in a small bit of water. But to go under your tongue would be best. THIS ONLY IF YOU CAN TOLERATE IODINE. Have you tried SAM-e? There is also a new one out that tried for a short time, and it seemed to be helping a bit, I think it is called Serene. St. swort? Also if you are taking a good broad spectrum multi vitamin and mineral, you might try adding extra niacin, non-flushing kind is okay. Look there is a free book that is very helpful for treating depression with supplements. The book can be downloaded from http://www.TheWayUp.com it is written by a psychiatrist - Dr. Pricilla Slagle. This book is great at explaining about depression, and what to do. This was also the first hint that I had about thyroid and its role in depression. Yes she sells supplements, but you certainly don't have to buy them from her. In some cases if she has put together a combination of ingredients it might not be a bad idea. Hope this helps. Sheila *********** REPLY SEPARATOR *********** I started taking thyroid-s in Feb., after being on synthroid for 3 years and finding out it was doing nothing for me. In the past I had been put on antidepressants ( before realizing it was my thyroid) and have since gone off of them. I am at 2 1/2 grans for the past 4 days and I know it takes time to help, but I'm having horrible problems with depression and am so tempted to start taking prozac again.I so much wanted to be free of the antidepressants, but don't know if I can hold out. Can anyone help me? kk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 19, 2005 Report Share Posted March 19, 2005 karin, I found myself taking Prozac years ago. I was a total mess. It worked quite well for me at the time. I know a lot of things that are prescribed for us can and will interefere with thyroid, but living with depression is the pits. I can't even tell you how long I took it, but it did help. This was all before my thyroid went south, but at the time, I'm not sure I could have made it without having that prescription. SandyE~Houston Re: depression So if I give in to the pain and start taking the prozac, I'll be doing worse damage? kk The Prozac has flouride in it...which interferes with thyroid > hormone. > Cindi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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