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I'm keeping and her family in my prayers.

Thank goodness she's doing better. I'm FURIOUS with

those surgeons!

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--- gobo yoemoe@...> wrote:

> I just heard from 's sister who had spent the

> entire day

> at the hospital with .

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At 07:110 +0000 4/23/01, gobo wrote:

> Her doctor's have ALL

>been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

>husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

Which doctor/practice did her surgery? If they knew how many people

were " watching " what they were doing they wouldn't be so cavalier!!!

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At 07:110 +0000 4/23/01, gobo wrote:

> Her doctor's have ALL

>been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

>husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

Which doctor/practice did her surgery? If they knew how many people

were " watching " what they were doing they wouldn't be so cavalier!!!

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At 07:110 +0000 4/23/01, gobo wrote:

> Her doctor's have ALL

>been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

>husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

Which doctor/practice did her surgery? If they knew how many people

were " watching " what they were doing they wouldn't be so cavalier!!!

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Thanks so much Gobo, for keeping us posted about

. Please let her and her family know we're

thinking of her and we miss her too!

>

> also mentioned that she really misses

> everyone on the

> support group.

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> gobo

> " Sometimes We Never Know How We Influence the Lives

> of

> Others, Yet We Touch Those Lives Just the Same "

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I don't know where is,but if I could I would go there and

demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what is wrong with

them? I have never heard of such treatment poor thing. She is on my

list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her in my prayers.

I just get so angered when I see people not doing their JOBS like the

doc's...Thanks for the update.

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I don't know where is,but if I could I would go there and

demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what is wrong with

them? I have never heard of such treatment poor thing. She is on my

list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her in my prayers.

I just get so angered when I see people not doing their JOBS like the

doc's...Thanks for the update.

Brigid

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My best to . Being new here, I don't really

know her, but we all need prayers and support even

from relative strangers. I too, would like to know

where she had her surgery.

Caroline

--- mbw92075@... wrote:

>

> I don't know where is,but if I could I would

> go there and

> demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what

> is wrong with

> them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> thing. She is on my

> list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her

> in my prayers.

> I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> their JOBS like the

> doc's...Thanks for the update.

>

> Brigid

>

>

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My best to . Being new here, I don't really

know her, but we all need prayers and support even

from relative strangers. I too, would like to know

where she had her surgery.

Caroline

--- mbw92075@... wrote:

>

> I don't know where is,but if I could I would

> go there and

> demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what

> is wrong with

> them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> thing. She is on my

> list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her

> in my prayers.

> I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> their JOBS like the

> doc's...Thanks for the update.

>

> Brigid

>

>

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You should have heard of such treatment. Right before went

in I posted of my sister's horror story with OSHU and Dr. Deveny.

After her surgery, I don't think she ever saw her Dr. again. When I

was there the day after her surgery I found the nursing care

deplorable, and they so much as lied to her about calling specialists

about her pain.

I just think anyone with a surgery date already set with Deveny

doesn't want to hear about problems, they just want the surgery

done. I'm really glad is doing okay, but I wonder if her

story would stop anyone from doing their surgery with Deveny.

D

>

> I don't know where is,but if I could I would go there and

> demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what is wrong with

> them? I have never heard of such treatment poor thing. She is on

my

> list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her in my

prayers.

> I just get so angered when I see people not doing their JOBS like

the

> doc's...Thanks for the update.

>

> Brigid

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You should have heard of such treatment. Right before went

in I posted of my sister's horror story with OSHU and Dr. Deveny.

After her surgery, I don't think she ever saw her Dr. again. When I

was there the day after her surgery I found the nursing care

deplorable, and they so much as lied to her about calling specialists

about her pain.

I just think anyone with a surgery date already set with Deveny

doesn't want to hear about problems, they just want the surgery

done. I'm really glad is doing okay, but I wonder if her

story would stop anyone from doing their surgery with Deveny.

D

>

> I don't know where is,but if I could I would go there and

> demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God what is wrong with

> them? I have never heard of such treatment poor thing. She is on

my

> list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep her in my

prayers.

> I just get so angered when I see people not doing their JOBS like

the

> doc's...Thanks for the update.

>

> Brigid

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Dear Donna: I don't find Dr. Deveny listed on the DS

switch website.... where does he practice and what

does OSHU stand for?

CAroline

--- Donna donnabert@...> wrote:

> You should have heard of such treatment. Right

> before went

> in I posted of my sister's horror story with OSHU

> and Dr. Deveny.

> After her surgery, I don't think she ever saw her

> Dr. again. When I

> was there the day after her surgery I found the

> nursing care

> deplorable, and they so much as lied to her about

> calling specialists

> about her pain.

>

> I just think anyone with a surgery date already set

> with Deveny

> doesn't want to hear about problems, they just want

> the surgery

> done. I'm really glad is doing okay, but I

> wonder if her

> story would stop anyone from doing their surgery

> with Deveny.

>

> D

>

>

> >

> > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> would go there and

> > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> what is wrong with

> > them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> thing. She is on

> my

> > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep

> her in my

> prayers.

> > I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> their JOBS like

> the

> > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> >

> > Brigid

>

>

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Dear Donna: I don't find Dr. Deveny listed on the DS

switch website.... where does he practice and what

does OSHU stand for?

CAroline

--- Donna donnabert@...> wrote:

> You should have heard of such treatment. Right

> before went

> in I posted of my sister's horror story with OSHU

> and Dr. Deveny.

> After her surgery, I don't think she ever saw her

> Dr. again. When I

> was there the day after her surgery I found the

> nursing care

> deplorable, and they so much as lied to her about

> calling specialists

> about her pain.

>

> I just think anyone with a surgery date already set

> with Deveny

> doesn't want to hear about problems, they just want

> the surgery

> done. I'm really glad is doing okay, but I

> wonder if her

> story would stop anyone from doing their surgery

> with Deveny.

>

> D

>

>

> >

> > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> would go there and

> > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> what is wrong with

> > them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> thing. She is on

> my

> > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep

> her in my

> prayers.

> > I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> their JOBS like

> the

> > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> >

> > Brigid

>

>

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He took over Dr. Welker's patients after he left. It's Oregon Health

Sciences University.

He has even stated he doesn't " believe " in weight loss surgery, so I

don't know why anyone would want him to do their surgery.

D

> > >

> > > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> > would go there and

> > > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> > what is wrong with

> > > them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> > thing. She is on

> > my

> > > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep

> > her in my

> > prayers.

> > > I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> > their JOBS like

> > the

> > > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> > >

> > > Brigid

> >

> >

> >

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He took over Dr. Welker's patients after he left. It's Oregon Health

Sciences University.

He has even stated he doesn't " believe " in weight loss surgery, so I

don't know why anyone would want him to do their surgery.

D

> > >

> > > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> > would go there and

> > > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> > what is wrong with

> > > them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> > thing. She is on

> > my

> > > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep

> > her in my

> > prayers.

> > > I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> > their JOBS like

> > the

> > > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> > >

> > > Brigid

> >

> >

> >

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He took over Dr. Welker's patients after he left. It's Oregon Health

Sciences University.

He has even stated he doesn't " believe " in weight loss surgery, so I

don't know why anyone would want him to do their surgery.

D

> > >

> > > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> > would go there and

> > > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> > what is wrong with

> > > them? I have never heard of such treatment poor

> > thing. She is on

> > my

> > > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly keep

> > her in my

> > prayers.

> > > I just get so angered when I see people not doing

> > their JOBS like

> > the

> > > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> > >

> > > Brigid

> >

> >

> >

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Caroline:

It is OHSU, not OSHU, an easy transposition to make. It stands for Oregon Health Sciences University. Dr. Deveny is not listed on the DS website though perhaps he should be. He took over Dr. Welker's practice when Dr. Welker left. He is not interested in doing weight loss surgery long term but OHSU felt a need to accomodate those who had been promised surgery and Dr. Deveny is certainly technically competent to do so. He had assisted Dr. Welker on a number of DS surgeries and Dr. Welker assisted him on several. Joy's for example. I don't expect him to be doing the DS in two years.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

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> Dear Donna: I don't find Dr. Deveny listed on the DS> switch website.... where does he practice and what> does OSHU stand for?> CAroline

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Caroline:

It is OHSU, not OSHU, an easy transposition to make. It stands for Oregon Health Sciences University. Dr. Deveny is not listed on the DS website though perhaps he should be. He took over Dr. Welker's practice when Dr. Welker left. He is not interested in doing weight loss surgery long term but OHSU felt a need to accomodate those who had been promised surgery and Dr. Deveny is certainly technically competent to do so. He had assisted Dr. Welker on a number of DS surgeries and Dr. Welker assisted him on several. Joy's for example. I don't expect him to be doing the DS in two years.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

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> Dear Donna: I don't find Dr. Deveny listed on the DS> switch website.... where does he practice and what> does OSHU stand for?> CAroline

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Caroline:

It is OHSU, not OSHU, an easy transposition to make. It stands for Oregon Health Sciences University. Dr. Deveny is not listed on the DS website though perhaps he should be. He took over Dr. Welker's practice when Dr. Welker left. He is not interested in doing weight loss surgery long term but OHSU felt a need to accommodate those who had been promised surgery and Dr. Deveny is certainly technically competent to do so. He had assisted Dr. Welker on a number of DS surgeries and Dr. Welker assisted him on several. Joy's for example. I don't expect him to be doing the DS in two years though I hasten to say that he has never said that to me so I could be wrong.

OHSU is a fine and very large teaching hospital. I feel that their approach is basically flawed, however. Surgeons are treated like Gods and patients and their families (and guardians) are treated like necessary impediments to the surgeons making the decisions they were trained to make. I think this is legally questionable and operatively mistaken. But that is my opinion and if I correctly recall, they haven't asked for that lately.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

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> Dear Donna: I don't find Dr. Deveny listed on the DS> switch website.... where does he practice and what> does OSHU stand for?> CAroline

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Caroline:

It is OHSU, not OSHU, an easy transposition to make. It stands for Oregon Health Sciences University. Dr. Deveny is not listed on the DS website though perhaps he should be. He took over Dr. Welker's practice when Dr. Welker left. He is not interested in doing weight loss surgery long term but OHSU felt a need to accommodate those who had been promised surgery and Dr. Deveny is certainly technically competent to do so. He had assisted Dr. Welker on a number of DS surgeries and Dr. Welker assisted him on several. Joy's for example. I don't expect him to be doing the DS in two years though I hasten to say that he has never said that to me so I could be wrong.

OHSU is a fine and very large teaching hospital. I feel that their approach is basically flawed, however. Surgeons are treated like Gods and patients and their families (and guardians) are treated like necessary impediments to the surgeons making the decisions they were trained to make. I think this is legally questionable and operatively mistaken. But that is my opinion and if I correctly recall, they haven't asked for that lately.

Regards.

Joe Frost, old gentleman, not old fartSan , TX, 60 years oldSurgery 11/29/00 by Dr. Welker Lateral Gastrectomy with Duodenal Switch340 starting weight, currently 250http://www.duodenalswitch.com/Patients/Joe/joe.html

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If, in fact, he does not believe in WLS.... why in the

world would he ever agree to do it!! Ethics bedamned,

eh?

Thanks for the info

Caroline

--- Donna donnabert@...> wrote:

> He took over Dr. Welker's patients after he left.

> It's Oregon Health

> Sciences University.

>

> He has even stated he doesn't " believe " in weight

> loss surgery, so I

> don't know why anyone would want him to do their

> surgery.

>

> D

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> > > would go there and

> > > > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> > > what is wrong with

> > > > them? I have never heard of such treatment

> poor

> > > thing. She is on

> > > my

> > > > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly

> keep

> > > her in my

> > > prayers.

> > > > I just get so angered when I see people not

> doing

> > > their JOBS like

> > > the

> > > > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> > > >

> > > > Brigid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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If, in fact, he does not believe in WLS.... why in the

world would he ever agree to do it!! Ethics bedamned,

eh?

Thanks for the info

Caroline

--- Donna donnabert@...> wrote:

> He took over Dr. Welker's patients after he left.

> It's Oregon Health

> Sciences University.

>

> He has even stated he doesn't " believe " in weight

> loss surgery, so I

> don't know why anyone would want him to do their

> surgery.

>

> D

>

>

> > > >

> > > > I don't know where is,but if I could I

> > > would go there and

> > > > demand to see those doctors of hers. Good God

> > > what is wrong with

> > > > them? I have never heard of such treatment

> poor

> > > thing. She is on

> > > my

> > > > list for a quick recovery. I will definetly

> keep

> > > her in my

> > > prayers.

> > > > I just get so angered when I see people not

> doing

> > > their JOBS like

> > > the

> > > > doc's...Thanks for the update.

> > > >

> > > > Brigid

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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In a message dated 4/23/01 4:03:42 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Unfortunately, her spirits really seem low this time, I think she is

just so tired; she said she never expected this to happen to her.

She has been complaining about her kidneys, but the nurse's

think it could be a muscle that's bothering her. Her husband is

going to ask the doctor if he sees him. Her doctor's have ALL

been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

>>

Thanks for the update, Gobo. remains in my thoughts and prayers.

I think most (if not all) people who experience complications like this think

'I

NEVER thought it would happen to me'. I don't know what I would have done

or felt if indeed these things had occured to ME. I know I did a lot of

research

but there's a difference between research and actuality. I can only

empathize! :)

Glad to hear that her breathing tube is out but I'm still sorry to hear that

she

expresses experiencing a high level of pain. Would you have a mailing

address for

her? I'd love to send a card! :)

all the best,

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In a message dated 4/23/01 4:03:42 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Unfortunately, her spirits really seem low this time, I think she is

just so tired; she said she never expected this to happen to her.

She has been complaining about her kidneys, but the nurse's

think it could be a muscle that's bothering her. Her husband is

going to ask the doctor if he sees him. Her doctor's have ALL

been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

>>

Thanks for the update, Gobo. remains in my thoughts and prayers.

I think most (if not all) people who experience complications like this think

'I

NEVER thought it would happen to me'. I don't know what I would have done

or felt if indeed these things had occured to ME. I know I did a lot of

research

but there's a difference between research and actuality. I can only

empathize! :)

Glad to hear that her breathing tube is out but I'm still sorry to hear that

she

expresses experiencing a high level of pain. Would you have a mailing

address for

her? I'd love to send a card! :)

all the best,

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In a message dated 4/23/01 4:03:42 AM, duodenalswitch writes:

<< Unfortunately, her spirits really seem low this time, I think she is

just so tired; she said she never expected this to happen to her.

She has been complaining about her kidneys, but the nurse's

think it could be a muscle that's bothering her. Her husband is

going to ask the doctor if he sees him. Her doctor's have ALL

been MIA (missing in action) since surgery. Neither 's

husband nor sister has seen any doctor since the surgery.

>>

Thanks for the update, Gobo. remains in my thoughts and prayers.

I think most (if not all) people who experience complications like this think

'I

NEVER thought it would happen to me'. I don't know what I would have done

or felt if indeed these things had occured to ME. I know I did a lot of

research

but there's a difference between research and actuality. I can only

empathize! :)

Glad to hear that her breathing tube is out but I'm still sorry to hear that

she

expresses experiencing a high level of pain. Would you have a mailing

address for

her? I'd love to send a card! :)

all the best,

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