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Mike, I can relate to your case and i will read answers you get with interest. I can't really offer you help because i am in the same situation. I started to flare on my 2 year SCD anniversary, at the beginning i thought it was food related and that it will go away in 2 or 3 days like it has until then but no, despite strict intro on the third day i got also blood next to my urgent D and now it will soon be 3 weeks that this is going on.

I started Pentasa when i got blood, i lost few kilos. In my case i am suspecting also hormones as i am still breastfeeding my soon to be 6 month baby. But i am getting tired by eating limited amount of foods (i am intro and few stage 1 foods) because with breastfeeding i use a lot of energy. So i hope it will end soon without the need to go to stronger medication. I also never had such severe symptomes ever since i was diagnosed with UC 2 years ago (at that time i had blood only for 1 day). I also get fatigue and stomach cramps that usualy result by going to the toilet. The frequency did diminue a little bit from 6-7 at beginning to around 4 last few days and it is less blood, 1 time per day maybe and just few drops at the end.

I was also surprised i was hit by it so strongly because i was confident my intestines were in good shape with SCD and that a flare couldn't run me down so fast. JanjaUC since july 2007SCD since august 2007

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I'm a newbie to SCD and I am also watching these posts with interest as one of

the things that gets me though this is the hope for better days. I know it must

be upsetting to see symptoms return after such a long time. I can understand

that pregnancy and having a newborn puts stress on the body, but for Mike- I

don't know why. Is it possible that there might be some infection setting this

off? I do hope you both recover quickly. Please keep us posted.

PJ

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> Mike, I can relate to your case and i will read answers you get with

> interest. I can't really offer you help because i am in the same situation.

> I started to flare on my 2 year SCD anniversary, at the beginning i thought

> it was food related and that it will go away in 2 or 3 days like it has

> until then but no, despite strict intro on the third day i got also blood

> next to my urgent D and now it will soon be 3 weeks that this is going on.

> I started Pentasa when i got blood, i lost few kilos. In my case i am

> suspecting also hormones as i am still breastfeeding my soon to be 6 month

> baby. But i am getting tired by eating limited amount of foods (i am intro

> and few stage 1 foods) because with breastfeeding i use a lot of energy. So

> i hope it will end soon without the need to go to stronger medication. I

> also never had such severe symptomes ever since i was diagnosed with UC 2

> years ago (at that time i had blood only for 1 day). I also get fatigue and

> stomach cramps that usualy result by going to the toilet. The frequency did

> diminue a little bit from 6-7 at beginning to around 4 last few days and it

> is less blood, 1 time per day maybe and just few drops at the end.

> I was also surprised i was hit by it so strongly because i was confident my

> intestines were in good shape with SCD and that a flare couldn't run me down

> so fast.

>

> Janja

> UC since july 2007

> SCD since august 2007

>

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Hi PJ and others,

I just wanted to say I hope I haven't unneccesarily worried any newbies reading

my post. From what I have seen of other's progress, this type of event this far

into the diet is not the norm.

As of yesterday evening, i've been feeling a lot better. The fever has now gone.

It was all a bit scary as i've never had a flare up like that before but I seem

to be over the worst.

I still hold on to the belief that it is a bad flare because of some really

stubborn bacteria and the promised land is on the other side!

PJ - I had been tapering off my azathoiprine and balsalazide (colazide) tablets

but had recently got back onto the meds as coming off them wasn't working out

so, I have to admit, the meds could have something to with my current issues.

Health to all,

Mike

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Hi PJ and others,

I just wanted to say I hope I haven't unneccesarily worried any newbies reading

my post. From what I have seen of other's progress, this type of event this far

into the diet is not the norm.

As of yesterday evening, i've been feeling a lot better. The fever has now gone.

It was all a bit scary as i've never had a flare up like that before but I seem

to be over the worst.

I still hold on to the belief that it is a bad flare because of some really

stubborn bacteria and the promised land is on the other side!

PJ - I had been tapering off my azathoiprine and balsalazide (colazide) tablets

but had recently got back onto the meds as coming off them wasn't working out

so, I have to admit, the meds could have something to with my current issues.

Health to all,

Mike

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I hadn't changed anything in my meds in over a year when my flare happened

(lialda 1x/day, Ranitidine 1x/day).

Stacey

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> I have a question for all of you. Were you on any meds when this happened? The

reason I asked is because some people stop their medication somewhere into the

diet, while most doctors think one should stay on medication regardless.

> Thanks,

> PJ

>

>

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> Hi PJ and others,

>

> I just wanted to say I hope I haven't unneccesarily worried any

> newbies reading my post. From what I have seen of other's progress,

> this type of event this far into the diet is not the norm.

>

> As of yesterday evening, i've been feeling a lot better. The fever

> has now gone. It was all a bit scary as i've never had a flare up

> like that before but I seem to be over the worst.

>

> I still hold on to the belief that it is a bad flare because of some

> really stubborn bacteria and the promised land is on the other side!

>

> PJ - I had been tapering off my azathoiprine and balsalazide

> (colazide) tablets but had recently got back onto the meds as coming

> off them wasn't working out so, I have to admit, the meds could have

> something to with my current issues.

Mike,

Have you looked into LDN as an option?

I know, too, that Kim M. has mentioned flaring at 3 month intervals or

so,

with decreasing symptoms, up until she hit the two year mark.

I certainly had some flares after the first year.

And think of it this way - once the die off symptoms go away, you'll

feel much, much better than you did before they began. I find that

dieoff always leads to leaps in health.

Mara

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The reason I asked about meds is that Elaine never said to stop meds, but some

people do, and do just fine, and some don't. It's so individual, and as I see,

so is the diet. From what I see, some can eat illegals after two years, some

never can, and so on- it's so individual. Don't we wish there was something that

would prevent all flares forever? The only thing I can conclude is that we are

far better off on SCD than without it, for without it- there would likely have

been more flares. I am so sorry to hear people going through this after so long,

but it still looks like the flares are infrequent. I do hope you recover soon.

LDN looks promising, and for those who are lucky to have a physician that

supports it, it could be helpful.

Hope you are better,

PJ

> >

> > I have a question for all of you. Were you on any meds when this happened?

The reason I asked is because some people stop their medication somewhere into

the diet, while most doctors think one should stay on medication regardless.

> > Thanks,

> > PJ

> >

> >

>

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The reason I asked about meds is that Elaine never said to stop meds, but some

people do, and do just fine, and some don't. It's so individual, and as I see,

so is the diet. From what I see, some can eat illegals after two years, some

never can, and so on- it's so individual. Don't we wish there was something that

would prevent all flares forever? The only thing I can conclude is that we are

far better off on SCD than without it, for without it- there would likely have

been more flares. I am so sorry to hear people going through this after so long,

but it still looks like the flares are infrequent. I do hope you recover soon.

LDN looks promising, and for those who are lucky to have a physician that

supports it, it could be helpful.

Hope you are better,

PJ

> >

> > I have a question for all of you. Were you on any meds when this happened?

The reason I asked is because some people stop their medication somewhere into

the diet, while most doctors think one should stay on medication regardless.

> > Thanks,

> > PJ

> >

> >

>

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I think those of us just starting out need to hear the positive because it gives

us hope. You're right that anyone can get a stomach bug and get D anyway, but

the bleeding is worrisome and I hope it stops. I'm do glad you have been doing

well and were able to get off meds and have a normal pregnancy. I hope you feel

better soon. I commend you for SCD in France- the ultimate temptation is French

bread and patisserie. Please keep us posted on how you are doing. How do the

French doctors treat IBD?

PJ

>

> Hello,

>

> I also didn't mean to discourage newcomers because the diet is definitely

> working, i had 2 wonderful years on it and i had a perfectly healthy SCD

> pregnancy and i thank only SCD to have my wonderful son because before SCD i

> didn't see how i could have a family at all.

> As i said, i think there are many factors to my flare, firstly it coudl be

> hormones, secondly a stomach bug (my husband and one friend had D few days

> after me but only for a day. And until now my symptomes were always worse in

> summer especially in August, i haven't found yet what could be causing it.

> So i am staying with simple SCD foods and hoping the flare will calm down

> without the need of stronger medication. I wasn't on medication since March

> 2008 (with awerness of my doctor) but when i saw blood i started to take it

> immediately. But no effects yet until now. It is starting to be long this

> flare.

> I will keep LDN in mind, i have to read more about it and i live in France

> so i assume it would be quite difficult to get it. I am seeing my gastro on

> 31 august so i am hoping i will be better until then, if not we will discuss

> medication options.

>

> I am also thinking that once i get over this i will be like new, able to eat

> bigger variety of SCD foods than i did until now. But patience is sometimes

> difficult :)

>

> Janja

>

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PJ,

You gotta keep in mind that a lot of the people that are " cured " or their

symptoms are like totally managed by the diet don't hang in online groups.. They

finally live their life and move on. There are a some like the moderators that

stay to guide the rest of us and so goes the chain of paying it forward.

I like it how Mara says that healing on the SCD is not a linear thing. This is

so true. Some of us are just slower than others..

But this is coming from me- post surgery I learned just how impatient I really

am with myself. Not a good thing.

Jodi

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