Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 At 07:48 PM 9/6/2009, you wrote: did she start her daughter with well-cooked stuff, pureed stuff, etc or just anything legal?? Cooked meats. Peeled and cooked vegetables. Homemade yogurt. JUST like she says, in BTVC. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Eileen, It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. The stages never really worked for me anyway.. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Eileen, It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. The stages never really worked for me anyway.. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2009 Report Share Posted September 6, 2009 Eileen, It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. The stages never really worked for me anyway.. Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2009 Report Share Posted September 7, 2009 really? I thought you followed them- so you just guessed what to add next as long as it was peeled and cooked ?? seems so risky yet so simple - lol - I need to get braver but SO afraid of feeling crummy for a month if I screw up - you know?? thanks Eileen 20 months scd > > Eileen, > > It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. > > From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. > > The stages never really worked for me anyway.. > > Jodi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 >> It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. << You have pegged that correctly. I remember asking her why the recipes in BTVC were marked as " beginner " and " intermediate " and so forth. (Keep in mind that when I began SCD, there were no SCD blogs, there wasn't an SCD Recipes site, and the only cook books available were Lucy's, BTVC itself, and " Taste & Tradition. " ) Elaine essentially threw up her hands and said that it was impossible to predict how any one person would react to any given set of ingredients. That what works well for her daughter might not work well for me, and what worked well for me might not work well for someone else. >> The stages never really worked for me anyway.. << The stages didn't exist when I started SCD, and I've managed to get well. Only time I have a problem is when I don't follow BTVC. (And for those who look at the fact that I've been SCD for almost eight years and say, " Omighod, I'll have to eat this way forever?! " keep in mind that I spent 26 years getting sicker and sicker and sicker.... and then, like a miracle, I started feeling better. I made a gazillion mistakes in my early days, mostly trying to prove that Elaine must have made a mistake when she said, " No x, y, or z... " and the only thing I proved was that she was right. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 >> It is my understanding that Elaine G was hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew everyone had different tolerances and didn't want things to be too rigid. From my understanding it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. << You have pegged that correctly. I remember asking her why the recipes in BTVC were marked as " beginner " and " intermediate " and so forth. (Keep in mind that when I began SCD, there were no SCD blogs, there wasn't an SCD Recipes site, and the only cook books available were Lucy's, BTVC itself, and " Taste & Tradition. " ) Elaine essentially threw up her hands and said that it was impossible to predict how any one person would react to any given set of ingredients. That what works well for her daughter might not work well for me, and what worked well for me might not work well for someone else. >> The stages never really worked for me anyway.. << The stages didn't exist when I started SCD, and I've managed to get well. Only time I have a problem is when I don't follow BTVC. (And for those who look at the fact that I've been SCD for almost eight years and say, " Omighod, I'll have to eat this way forever?! " keep in mind that I spent 26 years getting sicker and sicker and sicker.... and then, like a miracle, I started feeling better. I made a gazillion mistakes in my early days, mostly trying to prove that Elaine must have made a mistake when she said, " No x, y, or z... " and the only thing I proved was that she was right. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even though i don't think you still have eileen 20 months scd > > > >> It is my understanding that Elaine G was > hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew > everyone had different tolerances and didn't want > things to be too rigid. From my understanding > it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. << > > You have pegged that correctly. I remember asking > her why the recipes in BTVC were marked as > " beginner " and " intermediate " and so forth. (Keep > in mind that when I began SCD, there were no SCD > blogs, there wasn't an SCD Recipes site, and the > only cook books available were Lucy's, BTVC itself, and " Taste & Tradition. " ) > > Elaine essentially threw up her hands and said > that it was impossible to predict how any one > person would react to any given set of > ingredients. That what works well for her > daughter might not work well for me, and what > worked well for me might not work well for someone else. > > >> The stages never really worked for me anyway.. << > > The stages didn't exist when I started SCD, and > I've managed to get well. Only time I have a > problem is when I don't follow BTVC. > > (And for those who look at the fact that I've > been SCD for almost eight years and say, > " Omighod, I'll have to eat this way forever?! " > keep in mind that I spent 26 years getting sicker > and sicker and sicker.... and then, like a > miracle, I started feeling better. I made a > gazillion mistakes in my early days, mostly > trying to prove that Elaine must have made a > mistake when she said, " No x, y, or z... " and > the only thing I proved was that she was right. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even though i don't think you still have eileen 20 months scd > > > >> It is my understanding that Elaine G was > hesitant creating stages for foods as she knew > everyone had different tolerances and didn't want > things to be too rigid. From my understanding > it's really meant to be a guide and not set in stone like the written word. << > > You have pegged that correctly. I remember asking > her why the recipes in BTVC were marked as > " beginner " and " intermediate " and so forth. (Keep > in mind that when I began SCD, there were no SCD > blogs, there wasn't an SCD Recipes site, and the > only cook books available were Lucy's, BTVC itself, and " Taste & Tradition. " ) > > Elaine essentially threw up her hands and said > that it was impossible to predict how any one > person would react to any given set of > ingredients. That what works well for her > daughter might not work well for me, and what > worked well for me might not work well for someone else. > > >> The stages never really worked for me anyway.. << > > The stages didn't exist when I started SCD, and > I've managed to get well. Only time I have a > problem is when I don't follow BTVC. > > (And for those who look at the fact that I've > been SCD for almost eight years and say, > " Omighod, I'll have to eat this way forever?! " > keep in mind that I spent 26 years getting sicker > and sicker and sicker.... and then, like a > miracle, I started feeling better. I made a > gazillion mistakes in my early days, mostly > trying to prove that Elaine must have made a > mistake when she said, " No x, y, or z... " and > the only thing I proved was that she was right. > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 At 03:12 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even though i don't think you still have I have experimented with a few things here and there. I don't generally mention it on the list because the results of those experiments are usually, well, embarrassing. I'm still SCD. I just don't have to be quite as fanatical if I eat out: for instance, I got a steak a couple weeks ago and although my waitress had written no bread, etc. on the order, the kitchen staff dumped a piece of bread on top of my steak just before the waitress brought it out. In former times, I would have sent the steak back. I am healed enough that I could just remove the bread from the steak and hand it to my husband. But there is no way in Hades that I would actually EAT that piece of bread. I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, though, because although my weight (when I think I know what it is) is staying the same after I lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. It's hard, though, because with the post-cancer surgery lymphedema, my weight can go up and down by 30 pounds in a week. (My oncologist and a lymphedema specialist and I are trying to figure out what's going on and how to get a handle on it.) It's hard to be strict on the type of food, and the amount, and then see your weight shoot up twenty pounds over what it was the previous week when you weren't being as strict. I doubt I will ever go back to non-SCD eating. I just won't have to be quite so fanatical. <g> Who knows? I might one day even try Muir Glen whole tomatoes for making sauce instead of peeling and seeding everything myself! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2009 Report Share Posted September 8, 2009 At 03:12 PM 9/8/2009, you wrote: marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even though i don't think you still have I have experimented with a few things here and there. I don't generally mention it on the list because the results of those experiments are usually, well, embarrassing. I'm still SCD. I just don't have to be quite as fanatical if I eat out: for instance, I got a steak a couple weeks ago and although my waitress had written no bread, etc. on the order, the kitchen staff dumped a piece of bread on top of my steak just before the waitress brought it out. In former times, I would have sent the steak back. I am healed enough that I could just remove the bread from the steak and hand it to my husband. But there is no way in Hades that I would actually EAT that piece of bread. I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, though, because although my weight (when I think I know what it is) is staying the same after I lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. It's hard, though, because with the post-cancer surgery lymphedema, my weight can go up and down by 30 pounds in a week. (My oncologist and a lymphedema specialist and I are trying to figure out what's going on and how to get a handle on it.) It's hard to be strict on the type of food, and the amount, and then see your weight shoot up twenty pounds over what it was the previous week when you weren't being as strict. I doubt I will ever go back to non-SCD eating. I just won't have to be quite so fanatical. <g> Who knows? I might one day even try Muir Glen whole tomatoes for making sauce instead of peeling and seeding everything myself! — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Marilyn, Have they looked into complete thyroid function and adrenal fatigue? Jodi > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Marilyn, Have they looked into complete thyroid function and adrenal fatigue? Jodi > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Marilyn, Have they looked into complete thyroid function and adrenal fatigue? Jodi > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 thanks for your insight!!! and sorry to hear you're having troubles - you're a great help and your knowledge is priceless!!! eileen 20 months scd > >marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider > >yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even > >though i don't think you still have > > I have experimented with a few things here and > there. I don't generally mention it on the list > because the results of those experiments are usually, well, embarrassing. > > I'm still SCD. I just don't have to be quite as > fanatical if I eat out: for instance, I got a > steak a couple weeks ago and although my waitress > had written no bread, etc. on the order, the > kitchen staff dumped a piece of bread on top of > my steak just before the waitress brought it out. > > In former times, I would have sent the steak > back. I am healed enough that I could just remove > the bread from the steak and hand it to my > husband. But there is no way in Hades that I > would actually EAT that piece of bread. > > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. > It's hard, though, because with the post-cancer > surgery lymphedema, my weight can go up and down > by 30 pounds in a week. (My oncologist and a > lymphedema specialist and I are trying to figure > out what's going on and how to get a handle on > it.) It's hard to be strict on the type of food, > and the amount, and then see your weight shoot up > twenty pounds over what it was the previous week > when you weren't being as strict. > > I doubt I will ever go back to non-SCD eating. I > just won't have to be quite so fanatical. Who > knows? I might one day even try Muir Glen whole > tomatoes for making sauce instead of peeling and seeding everything myself! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 thanks for your insight!!! and sorry to hear you're having troubles - you're a great help and your knowledge is priceless!!! eileen 20 months scd > >marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider > >yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even > >though i don't think you still have > > I have experimented with a few things here and > there. I don't generally mention it on the list > because the results of those experiments are usually, well, embarrassing. > > I'm still SCD. I just don't have to be quite as > fanatical if I eat out: for instance, I got a > steak a couple weeks ago and although my waitress > had written no bread, etc. on the order, the > kitchen staff dumped a piece of bread on top of > my steak just before the waitress brought it out. > > In former times, I would have sent the steak > back. I am healed enough that I could just remove > the bread from the steak and hand it to my > husband. But there is no way in Hades that I > would actually EAT that piece of bread. > > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. > It's hard, though, because with the post-cancer > surgery lymphedema, my weight can go up and down > by 30 pounds in a week. (My oncologist and a > lymphedema specialist and I are trying to figure > out what's going on and how to get a handle on > it.) It's hard to be strict on the type of food, > and the amount, and then see your weight shoot up > twenty pounds over what it was the previous week > when you weren't being as strict. > > I doubt I will ever go back to non-SCD eating. I > just won't have to be quite so fanatical. Who > knows? I might one day even try Muir Glen whole > tomatoes for making sauce instead of peeling and seeding everything myself! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 thanks for your insight!!! and sorry to hear you're having troubles - you're a great help and your knowledge is priceless!!! eileen 20 months scd > >marilyn ,just curious- when did you consider > >yourself healed and able to try illegals ?? even > >though i don't think you still have > > I have experimented with a few things here and > there. I don't generally mention it on the list > because the results of those experiments are usually, well, embarrassing. > > I'm still SCD. I just don't have to be quite as > fanatical if I eat out: for instance, I got a > steak a couple weeks ago and although my waitress > had written no bread, etc. on the order, the > kitchen staff dumped a piece of bread on top of > my steak just before the waitress brought it out. > > In former times, I would have sent the steak > back. I am healed enough that I could just remove > the bread from the steak and hand it to my > husband. But there is no way in Hades that I > would actually EAT that piece of bread. > > I'm going to have to go back to extra-strict, > though, because although my weight (when I think > I know what it is) is staying the same after I > lost the 180 pounds, I am not losing any more. > It's hard, though, because with the post-cancer > surgery lymphedema, my weight can go up and down > by 30 pounds in a week. (My oncologist and a > lymphedema specialist and I are trying to figure > out what's going on and how to get a handle on > it.) It's hard to be strict on the type of food, > and the amount, and then see your weight shoot up > twenty pounds over what it was the previous week > when you weren't being as strict. > > I doubt I will ever go back to non-SCD eating. I > just won't have to be quite so fanatical. Who > knows? I might one day even try Muir Glen whole > tomatoes for making sauce instead of peeling and seeding everything myself! > > > — Marilyn > New Orleans, Louisiana, USA > Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 > Darn Good SCD Cook > No Human Children > Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 At 05:40 AM 9/9/2009, you wrote: Have they looked into complete thyroid function and adrenal fatigue? I have begun reading up on the topic, but you have to understand that until recently, my PCP was uninterested in anything of that nature. He's the one who dismissed my gut issues with " Just lose some weight and it'll all clear up. " And the post menopausal bleeding which was the first symptom of the uterine cancer was dismissed with " Just lose some weight and it'll all clear up. " I had mentioned my concerns to my new PCP, but she appears to be somewhat conservative on this, and I haven't sorted out how to present the issue to her. We cannot afford an alternative doctor who is not covered by our insurance at this time. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 At 05:40 AM 9/9/2009, you wrote: Have they looked into complete thyroid function and adrenal fatigue? I have begun reading up on the topic, but you have to understand that until recently, my PCP was uninterested in anything of that nature. He's the one who dismissed my gut issues with " Just lose some weight and it'll all clear up. " And the post menopausal bleeding which was the first symptom of the uterine cancer was dismissed with " Just lose some weight and it'll all clear up. " I had mentioned my concerns to my new PCP, but she appears to be somewhat conservative on this, and I haven't sorted out how to present the issue to her. We cannot afford an alternative doctor who is not covered by our insurance at this time. — Marilyn New Orleans, Louisiana, USA Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001 Darn Good SCD Cook No Human Children Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2009 Report Share Posted September 9, 2009 Hi Marilyn, I understand. What about getting an Endo consult? Jodi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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