Re: knowing when to say when

August 11, 2009

Hey ..

Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD. Some

people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and in

between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not nearly

enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from the

Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should know.

So many of us really.

What are you eating these days?

Did you do the Intro diet?

List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

Hang in there!

Jodi

August 11, 2009

Hey ..

Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD. Some

people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and in

between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not nearly

enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from the

Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should know.

So many of us really.

What are you eating these days?

Did you do the Intro diet?

List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

Hang in there!

Jodi

August 11, 2009

Hey ..

Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD. Some

people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and in

between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not nearly

enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from the

Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should know.

So many of us really.

What are you eating these days?

Did you do the Intro diet?

List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

Hang in there!

Jodi

August 11, 2009

Thanks so much Jodi.

I guess its the " this diet is not for everyone, and one will know after 4 weeks "

thing (its in the book!) that makes me question as symptoms seem to be

increasing as opposed to getting better. Remember when I started I had none.

Anyway your words are good encouragement to keep going.

When I started I did not do the intro since I did not have symptoms. After

about 2 weeks I was feeling like I was eating way too much fiber with fruit and

veggies replacing bread and starch, so I pulled back and did a 3 day " intro " . I

have now been more moderate on the fruit and veggies, and the staple of my diet

is;

eggs

scd yogurt with honey

scd banana bread

chicken

fish

ground lamb/beef

steak

cooked carrots

cooked zucchini

dry curd cottage cheese

legal cheeses

almonds (moderate)

dried mango (moderate)

salad greens (moderate)

cooked spinach (moderate)

pears/nectarines/blueberries/pineapple (moderate)

Maybe the latter 5 are too advanced? But if I can't eat a salad then am I

really getting healthier? BTW I have always enjoyed a balanced and healthy

diet, eating mostly organic and whole foods, so not sure if I started from the

typical american diet..

Thanks again!

>

> Hey ..

>

> Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

>

> Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD.

Some people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and

in between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

>

> Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not

nearly enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from

the Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

>

> Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

> This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should

know. So many of us really.

>

> What are you eating these days?

> Did you do the Intro diet?

>

> List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

>

> It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

>

> Hang in there!

>

> Jodi

>

August 11, 2009

Thanks so much Jodi.

I guess its the " this diet is not for everyone, and one will know after 4 weeks "

thing (its in the book!) that makes me question as symptoms seem to be

increasing as opposed to getting better. Remember when I started I had none.

Anyway your words are good encouragement to keep going.

When I started I did not do the intro since I did not have symptoms. After

about 2 weeks I was feeling like I was eating way too much fiber with fruit and

veggies replacing bread and starch, so I pulled back and did a 3 day " intro " . I

have now been more moderate on the fruit and veggies, and the staple of my diet

is;

eggs

scd yogurt with honey

scd banana bread

chicken

fish

ground lamb/beef

steak

cooked carrots

cooked zucchini

dry curd cottage cheese

legal cheeses

almonds (moderate)

dried mango (moderate)

salad greens (moderate)

cooked spinach (moderate)

pears/nectarines/blueberries/pineapple (moderate)

Maybe the latter 5 are too advanced? But if I can't eat a salad then am I

really getting healthier? BTW I have always enjoyed a balanced and healthy

diet, eating mostly organic and whole foods, so not sure if I started from the

typical american diet..

Thanks again!

>

> Hey ..

>

> Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

>

> Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD.

Some people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and

in between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

>

> Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not

nearly enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from

the Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

>

> Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

> This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should

know. So many of us really.

>

> What are you eating these days?

> Did you do the Intro diet?

>

> List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

>

> It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

>

> Hang in there!

>

> Jodi

>

August 11, 2009

Thanks so much Jodi.

I guess its the " this diet is not for everyone, and one will know after 4 weeks "

thing (its in the book!) that makes me question as symptoms seem to be

increasing as opposed to getting better. Remember when I started I had none.

Anyway your words are good encouragement to keep going.

When I started I did not do the intro since I did not have symptoms. After

about 2 weeks I was feeling like I was eating way too much fiber with fruit and

veggies replacing bread and starch, so I pulled back and did a 3 day " intro " . I

have now been more moderate on the fruit and veggies, and the staple of my diet

is;

eggs

scd yogurt with honey

scd banana bread

chicken

fish

ground lamb/beef

steak

cooked carrots

cooked zucchini

dry curd cottage cheese

legal cheeses

almonds (moderate)

dried mango (moderate)

salad greens (moderate)

cooked spinach (moderate)

pears/nectarines/blueberries/pineapple (moderate)

Maybe the latter 5 are too advanced? But if I can't eat a salad then am I

really getting healthier? BTW I have always enjoyed a balanced and healthy

diet, eating mostly organic and whole foods, so not sure if I started from the

typical american diet..

Thanks again!

>

> Hey ..

>

> Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

>

> Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD.

Some people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and

in between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

>

> Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not

nearly enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from

the Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

>

> Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

> This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should

know. So many of us really.

>

> What are you eating these days?

> Did you do the Intro diet?

>

> List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if you

might be irritating yourself somehow.

>

> It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses can

be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back.. that is

EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my god.. I am

doing so much better than I used to "

>

> Hang in there!

>

> Jodi

>

August 11, 2009

, I think you should start out with the intro for a day or two. Everything is suppose to be peeled, seeded and cooked for awhile. So all fruit and veggies need to be prepared this way. That would make salad out for awhile. There are lots of veggies to try so by thinking that you need to eat salad to get healthier isn't right. The food needs to digest properly to get healtiher. I think you had to of had symptoms or you wouldn't need the diet. Maybe your just looking at no d or constipation. I would try the diet for months before saying it didn't work. I think it will work for you. So start with the intro and add foods one at a time and see if your body gives you any symptoms. The things that jumped out at me from your food list is almond flour in the banana bread is advanced. Nut butter is easier to digest at first, then add in the flours and the nuts. Dried foods are very advanced because they are concentrated sugar and fiber. Cooked spinach should be okay if you don't get symptoms from it. Maybe keep a food journal of what you eat and your symptoms if any. www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info has alot of information on it for you to look over. Glad you found the list, ask any questions, someone can help you. Katy

I have now been more moderate on the fruit and veggies, and the staple of my diet is;eggsscd yogurt with honeyscd banana breadchickenfishground lamb/beefsteakcooked carrotscooked zucchinidry curd cottage cheeselegal cheesesalmonds (moderate)dried mango (moderate)salad greens (moderate)cooked spinach (moderate)pears/nectarines/blueberries/pineapple (moderate)Maybe the latter 5 are too advanced? But if I can't eat a salad then am I really getting healthier? BTW I have always enjoyed a balanced and healthy diet, eating mostly organic and whole foods, so not sure if I started from the typical american diet..Thanks again!

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August 11, 2009

, I think you should start out with the intro for a day or two. Everything is suppose to be peeled, seeded and cooked for awhile. So all fruit and veggies need to be prepared this way. That would make salad out for awhile. There are lots of veggies to try so by thinking that you need to eat salad to get healthier isn't right. The food needs to digest properly to get healtiher. I think you had to of had symptoms or you wouldn't need the diet. Maybe your just looking at no d or constipation. I would try the diet for months before saying it didn't work. I think it will work for you. So start with the intro and add foods one at a time and see if your body gives you any symptoms. The things that jumped out at me from your food list is almond flour in the banana bread is advanced. Nut butter is easier to digest at first, then add in the flours and the nuts. Dried foods are very advanced because they are concentrated sugar and fiber. Cooked spinach should be okay if you don't get symptoms from it. Maybe keep a food journal of what you eat and your symptoms if any. www.breakingtheviciouscycle.info has alot of information on it for you to look over. Glad you found the list, ask any questions, someone can help you. Katy

I have now been more moderate on the fruit and veggies, and the staple of my diet is;eggsscd yogurt with honeyscd banana breadchickenfishground lamb/beefsteakcooked carrotscooked zucchinidry curd cottage cheeselegal cheesesalmonds (moderate)dried mango (moderate)salad greens (moderate)cooked spinach (moderate)pears/nectarines/blueberries/pineapple (moderate)Maybe the latter 5 are too advanced? But if I can't eat a salad then am I really getting healthier? BTW I have always enjoyed a balanced and healthy diet, eating mostly organic and whole foods, so not sure if I started from the typical american diet..Thanks again!

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August 11, 2009

I sure hope you mean 2 steps forward and 1 step back, or we're all in a barrel

of trouble ;-)

Holly

>Relapses can be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps

back.. that is EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like

" Ohh my god.. I am doing so much better than I used to "

>

> Hang in there!

>

> Jodi

>

August 11, 2009

Holly,

LOL..

Sure what the hey'..

There goes my ADD/Dyslexia.

Jodi

>

> I sure hope you mean 2 steps forward and 1 step back, or we're all in a barrel

of trouble ;-)

>

> Holly

August 11, 2009

At 03:05 PM 8/11/2009, you wrote:

I guess its the " this diet

is not for everyone, and one will know after 4 weeks " thing (its in

the book!) that makes me question as symptoms seem to be increasing as

opposed to getting better. Remember when I started I had none. Anyway

your words are good encouragement to keep going.

Elaine basically put that in there because there were plenty of people

who insisted that a month was long enough. After all, if you take a

medication, in theory, you know if it works within a month. (Which is why

I now shake my head, reading about medications which can take months to

have effect, and people are content to wait for medications to take

effect, but confused because the food we eat can take time to let our

bodies heal.)

It's undeniably true that some people have almost instant success with

SCD. Those people, alas, are the lucky ones. I'd been ill for around 26

years when I started. I wasn't expecting miracles. I just wanted to feel

somewhat better. I felt enough better that I continued... and my journey

has, in and of itself, been a miracle.

—

Marilyn

New

Orleans, Louisiana, USA

Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

Darn Good SCD Cook

No Human Children

Shadow & Sunny Longhair Dachshund

August 11, 2009

Thanks to everyone; Jodi, Marilyn, Holly, , for the advice and support!

I will see how it goes to get 'back to the basics' again. Will let you know how

it works out..

Someone mentioned that I must have had symptoms when I started, why else would I

start the diet; well, I was in a prednisone induced 'remission' after a big

scare and 3 nights in the hospital for major bleeding, 3 months ago. The heavy

drugs got things under control quickly and kept them there, and I hoped the diet

would be the help I needed to keep things quiet after coming off the pred. If I

look at the big picture I am not doing too bad, I just fear, of course, how

those little sneaks of symptoms can snowball so fast... Did I mention before my

hospital scare I was making plans with my hub to try to get pregnant? Another

reason now that I am anxious to be 100% symptom free!

Thanks again. You ladies are awesome!

> >

> > Hey ..

> >

> > Healing on the SCD is not a linear process. We go through stages of

illness/wellness.

> >

> > Elaine talked about people flaring at the 3/6/9/12 month lines on the SCD.

Some people flare around those times. I had major falres during those times and

in between as well. This can be attributed to die off cycles of bad bacteria.

> >

> > Elaine was really smart as she knew healing takes time. Six weeks is not

nearly enough time to know if the diet is working, undoing all this damage from

the Standard American Diet.. That is why we need to stick to it for 2 years-

fanatically adhering.

> >

> > Take it one day at a time. Do your best.

> > This diet totally pays off!! Seriously, with where I have been- I should

know. So many of us really.

> >

> > What are you eating these days?

> > Did you do the Intro diet?

> >

> > List your foods that you consume and one of us can help you figure out if

you might be irritating yourself somehow.

> >

> > It's a work in progress going through the first year on the SCD. Relapses

can be common as Marilyn always says.. it's one step forward 2 steps back..

that is EXACTLY how it worked for me.. and then one day it was like " Ohh my

god.. I am doing so much better than I used to "

> >

> > Hang in there!

> >

> > Jodi

> >

>

August 11, 2009