Best wishes to you, Debbie

[Guest guest]

Debbie:

You are a victim. Victims need apologies to get closure. It sounds like you

got a well thought out defense. Debbie, I am sorry for what happened to you.

Whether or not it was necessary, Dr. Ren should have been apologetic for

the situation Debbie was left in. I have seen people fall on the sidewalk

and had enough manners and concern to express sorrow for their accident, even

tho I had nothing to do with it.

As far as I am concerned, we should all be saying " But for the Grace of God

go I " . I put anyone criticizing her in her GRIEF in the same category as the

people who think obese people are fat, lazy, unkempt, slovenly, overeating

pigs.

Love and Aloha

[Guest guest]

I put anyone criticizing her in her GRIEF in the same category as the

people who think obese people are fat, lazy, unkempt, slovenly,

overeating pigs.

>

> Love and Aloha

I have been an avid reader and occasional poster of this group for

more than a year, and generally don't comment on most of the highly

charged issues which circulate, although I certainly have my own

opinions. This comment, though, has really led me to evaluate the

furor, and I take this comment very personally, and as a direct

affront. Hopingsoul, I guess you had better lump me in

that " category " , although I don't think it would be accurate for me.

For the record, do I feel sorry for Debbie? I don't think she wants

or needs my sorrow or pity or understanding. I don't have a strong

sense that she is coming here for support (but that may be filtered

by my own feelings that I come here for info, not emotional

support). But yes, I feel sorry for anyone who does not get exactly

what they wanted or expected. I feel much, much more sympathy and

sorrow for Joe Frost, and Sharon, and the people I know who have died

from complications following this procedure. I feel much more sorrow

and grief for the thousands and thousands of people who need ANY type

of WLS and will never have the opportunity to receive it; I feel

sorry for the people who would joyously embrace dumping znd the loss

of a pyloric valve for even the chance to lose a lifetime of obesity

related problems.

I think it is definitely time for me to take a hiatus from the group

for a while. I deal with these types of pitched battles 60 hours a

week at work, and need a break from them in my personal time.

As always, I wish you well.

Kate

[Guest guest]

I put anyone criticizing her in her GRIEF in the same category as the

people who think obese people are fat, lazy, unkempt, slovenly,

overeating pigs.

>

> Love and Aloha

I have been an avid reader and occasional poster of this group for

more than a year, and generally don't comment on most of the highly

charged issues which circulate, although I certainly have my own

opinions. This comment, though, has really led me to evaluate the

furor, and I take this comment very personally, and as a direct

affront. Hopingsoul, I guess you had better lump me in

that " category " , although I don't think it would be accurate for me.

For the record, do I feel sorry for Debbie? I don't think she wants

or needs my sorrow or pity or understanding. I don't have a strong

sense that she is coming here for support (but that may be filtered

by my own feelings that I come here for info, not emotional

support). But yes, I feel sorry for anyone who does not get exactly

what they wanted or expected. I feel much, much more sympathy and

sorrow for Joe Frost, and Sharon, and the people I know who have died

from complications following this procedure. I feel much more sorrow

and grief for the thousands and thousands of people who need ANY type

of WLS and will never have the opportunity to receive it; I feel

sorry for the people who would joyously embrace dumping znd the loss

of a pyloric valve for even the chance to lose a lifetime of obesity

related problems.

I think it is definitely time for me to take a hiatus from the group

for a while. I deal with these types of pitched battles 60 hours a

week at work, and need a break from them in my personal time.

As always, I wish you well.

Kate

[Guest guest]

I put anyone criticizing her in her GRIEF in the same category as the

people who think obese people are fat, lazy, unkempt, slovenly,

overeating pigs.

>

> Love and Aloha

I have been an avid reader and occasional poster of this group for

more than a year, and generally don't comment on most of the highly

charged issues which circulate, although I certainly have my own

opinions. This comment, though, has really led me to evaluate the

furor, and I take this comment very personally, and as a direct

affront. Hopingsoul, I guess you had better lump me in

that " category " , although I don't think it would be accurate for me.

For the record, do I feel sorry for Debbie? I don't think she wants

or needs my sorrow or pity or understanding. I don't have a strong

sense that she is coming here for support (but that may be filtered

by my own feelings that I come here for info, not emotional

support). But yes, I feel sorry for anyone who does not get exactly

what they wanted or expected. I feel much, much more sympathy and

sorrow for Joe Frost, and Sharon, and the people I know who have died

from complications following this procedure. I feel much more sorrow

and grief for the thousands and thousands of people who need ANY type

of WLS and will never have the opportunity to receive it; I feel

sorry for the people who would joyously embrace dumping znd the loss

of a pyloric valve for even the chance to lose a lifetime of obesity

related problems.

I think it is definitely time for me to take a hiatus from the group

for a while. I deal with these types of pitched battles 60 hours a

week at work, and need a break from them in my personal time.

As always, I wish you well.

Kate