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Judie;

Do you mean Federal Blue Cross? If that's what you mean it's

approximately $157 per month. I don't know what it would be for

'Individual Plans' or for another group coverage. You'll have to

check your local office. Make sure and tell them whether it's

Federal or not because the Federal plan uses a different phone

number and representatives.

hugs,

gobo

> Gobo,

> How much does it cost monthly for Blue Cross High Option?

Im thinking of switching.....

>

> Judie

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Hi Gobo,

Listen, I was wondering if I could pick your brain?

You may have read my posts about being denied a

consult with Dr Hess but being approved for a consult

with Dr. Maguire. Well the insurance co. says they

will approve the RNY but not the DS. But Tammy at the

insurance co. said to go ahead (if I wanted to) and

have Dr. Maguire make out a treatment plan for the DS

and we'll see what happens on appeal. What do you

think my chances are of an approval? I'm hoping pretty

good since I got my foot in the door with a DS

surgeon. Anyway, I noticed in another post to someone

you mentioned you worked with insurance before (I

think it was you)and if you wouldn't mind giving me

some of your thoughts, I'd appreciate it greatly!

Thanks bunches, Angel

--- gobo yoemoe@...> wrote:

> Judie;

> Do you mean Federal Blue Cross? If that's what you

> mean it's

> approximately $157 per month. I don't know what it

> would be for

> 'Individual Plans' or for another group coverage.

> You'll have to

> check your local office. Make sure and tell them

> whether it's

> Federal or not because the Federal plan uses a

> different phone

> number and representatives.

>

> hugs,

> gobo

>

>

> > Gobo,

> > How much does it cost monthly for Blue Cross High

> Option?

> Im thinking of switching.....

> >

> > Judie

>

>

>

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Hi Gobo,

Listen, I was wondering if I could pick your brain?

You may have read my posts about being denied a

consult with Dr Hess but being approved for a consult

with Dr. Maguire. Well the insurance co. says they

will approve the RNY but not the DS. But Tammy at the

insurance co. said to go ahead (if I wanted to) and

have Dr. Maguire make out a treatment plan for the DS

and we'll see what happens on appeal. What do you

think my chances are of an approval? I'm hoping pretty

good since I got my foot in the door with a DS

surgeon. Anyway, I noticed in another post to someone

you mentioned you worked with insurance before (I

think it was you)and if you wouldn't mind giving me

some of your thoughts, I'd appreciate it greatly!

Thanks bunches, Angel

--- gobo yoemoe@...> wrote:

> Judie;

> Do you mean Federal Blue Cross? If that's what you

> mean it's

> approximately $157 per month. I don't know what it

> would be for

> 'Individual Plans' or for another group coverage.

> You'll have to

> check your local office. Make sure and tell them

> whether it's

> Federal or not because the Federal plan uses a

> different phone

> number and representatives.

>

> hugs,

> gobo

>

>

> > Gobo,

> > How much does it cost monthly for Blue Cross High

> Option?

> Im thinking of switching.....

> >

> > Judie

>

>

>

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Angel;

An insurance company's willingness to pay for something that is

outside the scope of what they normally pay is increased hugely

if you can present acceptable medical evidence explaining why

the teatment is medically indicated over and above the treatment

they would normally agree to pay. [What a run-on sentence that

was, huh?]

In other words, you want to present them with evidence that

shows, FOR YOU PERSONALLY, the DS is the better choice.

Therefore, the reason can't be " because it's a better

procedure " or, " it has a better outcome " . Those may me the

reasons many of us (myself included) decided upon the

DS/Switch but you need to prove to your insurance company that

ONLY the DS/Swictch meets your needs. You need to prove to

them that the RNY is not, in YOUR CASE a good medical

decision.

For instance, if your BMI is above 50, the DS really is the

indicated procedure. I've also read reasons that doctors give that

pertain to a person's eating habits. I am unfamiliar with what

those reason would be. I worry about reasons based on eating

habits sounding suspiciously like eating disorders. A doc can

probably present this reason legitimately.

I think that on Dr. Hess' web site, there are some lists that show

the pro's and con's of each procedure. There's probably also

web sites that help people to decide which procedure is best

suited for them. If you check around, you'll be able to find the sort

of info. I'm referring to.

What I would do, is use all that info to build a case for yourself. I

would advise against using the fact that DS patients lose up to

85% versus RNY patients only losing up to 65%. The reason I

say this is that BC/BS is patently AGAINST covering anything that

has anything to do with weight loss or obesity. The ONLY reason

they cover bariatric surgery (WLS) at all, is because of all the

health risks or co-morbidities. As far as they are concerned,

actually losing weght is secondary to reducing one's health

risks.

If you want more help, please just email me. I'll jump in with you

and do some research.

hugs,

gobo

" Necessity is the mother of invention " — Wycherly: Love in a

Wood, act iii. sc. 3 (1672)

> > > Gobo,

> > > How much does it cost monthly for Blue Cross High

> > Option?

> > Im thinking of switching.....

> > >

> > > Judie

> >

> >

> >

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Dear Gobo,

How are you feeling? Hope you're feeling much better.

You get all the rest you need and get back to feeling

your sweet self before you even consider helping me in

my fight! You have your hands full with and

all the wonderful help you're giving her. I can wait

until you have a little more time! I did try to

approach the insurance the way you said, (I even sent

in the Hess report highlighted etc. with comments in

the margins why this point or that point made it the

surgery that was indicated for me). However I'm not a

Dr. or insurance person whose dealt with this before

so maybe I just messed up my chances! I have Cigna HMO

and now I have one denial, but at least they've okayed

a consult with Dr. Maguire! Tammy (referral person? at

Cigna) said to go to Dr. Maguire and if I want, have

him write up a treatment plan for the DS and have him

submit it and we'd go from there. Do you think his

chances will be better at getting it approved (since

they all ready denied the DS surgery once?) Can the

way he " codes " it, make a difference? I have also been

collecting letters from (of course), my PCP,

cardiologist, sleep clinic and nephrologist. All are

willing to recommend the DS specifically to the

insurance co.. So when you get the chance,(AND LET ME

STRESS, WHEN YOU FEEL UP TO IT!) let me know what you

think and what kinds of things the insurance co is

looking for that would show that ONLY the DS would be

indicated for me. Thanks dear. Rest and get better. I

will be sending you some jokes for in the next

day or two along with a note of encouragement. Thank

you, thank you, thank you for being.....YOU! Angel

--- gobo yoemoe@...> wrote:

> Angel;

> An insurance company's willingness to pay for

> something that is

> outside the scope of what they normally pay is

> increased hugely

> if you can present acceptable medical evidence

> explaining why

> the teatment is medically indicated over and above

> the treatment

> they would normally agree to pay. [What a run-on

> sentence that

> was, huh?]

>

> In other words, you want to present them with

> evidence that

> shows, FOR YOU PERSONALLY, the DS is the better

> choice.

> Therefore, the reason can't be " because it's a

> better

> procedure " or, " it has a better outcome " . Those may

> me the

> reasons many of us (myself included) decided upon

> the

> DS/Switch but you need to prove to your insurance

> company that

> ONLY the DS/Swictch meets your needs. You need to

> prove to

> them that the RNY is not, in YOUR CASE a good

> medical

> decision.

>

> For instance, if your BMI is above 50, the DS really

> is the

> indicated procedure. I've also read reasons that

> doctors give that

> pertain to a person's eating habits. I am unfamiliar

> with what

> those reason would be. I worry about reasons based

> on eating

> habits sounding suspiciously like eating disorders.

> A doc can

> probably present this reason legitimately.

>

> I think that on Dr. Hess' web site, there are some

> lists that show

> the pro's and con's of each procedure. There's

> probably also

> web sites that help people to decide which procedure

> is best

> suited for them. If you check around, you'll be able

> to find the sort

> of info. I'm referring to.

>

> What I would do, is use all that info to build a

> case for yourself. I

> would advise against using the fact that DS patients

> lose up to

> 85% versus RNY patients only losing up to 65%. The

> reason I

> say this is that BC/BS is patently AGAINST covering

> anything that

> has anything to do with weight loss or obesity. The

> ONLY reason

> they cover bariatric surgery (WLS) at all, is

> because of all the

> health risks or co-morbidities. As far as they are

> concerned,

> actually losing weght is secondary to reducing one's

> health

> risks.

>

> If you want more help, please just email me. I'll

> jump in with you

> and do some research.

>

> hugs,

> gobo

>

> " Necessity is the mother of invention " — Wycherly:

> Love in a

> Wood, act iii. sc. 3 (1672)

>

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