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Jen,

It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be in the

front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to explain -

but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

few!). So give me some time.

Kori

At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

>The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

>three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

>and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

>but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

>it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

>She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

>see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

>what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

>have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

>thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

>ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

>it has completely rubbed off!

>

>Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

>I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

>I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

>scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

>around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

>I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

>Jen & Livie

>

>

>

>

>

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Jen,

It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be in the

front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to explain -

but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

few!). So give me some time.

Kori

At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

>The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

>three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

>and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

>but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

>it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

>She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

>see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

>what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

>have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

>thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

>ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

>it has completely rubbed off!

>

>Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

>I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

>I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

>scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

>around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

>I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

>Jen & Livie

>

>

>

>

>

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Jen, was the left foot turned out at 70 degrees? If so, go to the

following link and if you scroll down, you see some pictures of a FAB

set up for LCF with the correct settings. You can sort of 'eye' it

to set the bar back up (that's what I had to do with Owen's when we

first got the bar because it hadn't been set up properly " .

http://pages.ivillage.com/ponseti_links/id9.html

Hope this helps1

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart

today!

> The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being

almost

> three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

> She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't

know

> what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right.

Anybody

> have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which

I

> thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> it has completely rubbed off!

>

> Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

> I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

> Jen & Livie

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Jen, was the left foot turned out at 70 degrees? If so, go to the

following link and if you scroll down, you see some pictures of a FAB

set up for LCF with the correct settings. You can sort of 'eye' it

to set the bar back up (that's what I had to do with Owen's when we

first got the bar because it hadn't been set up properly " .

http://pages.ivillage.com/ponseti_links/id9.html

Hope this helps1

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart

today!

> The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being

almost

> three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

> She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't

know

> what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right.

Anybody

> have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which

I

> thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> it has completely rubbed off!

>

> Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

> I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

> Jen & Livie

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Jen-

The easiest way to eye ball it is to put the shoe back on to the bar to what

you think is approx 70 degrees. Then look to see if the little screw toward

the ankle that holds the plate to the shoe is visable. If you hold the

shoes upside down so you are looking at the back of the bar you should only

be able to see half of the little screw. If you see the whole screw in that

position then you need to rotate it out more. Half of the screw will be

covered by the bar if you have the shoe at 70 degree rotation. If it isn't

you don't have it rotated out enough. Another clue is too pretend like you

see a visiable line going from the center of the bar out to the toe of the

shoe the point it end up should be the 30 mark. Hope this makes sense!

>

>Reply-To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>To: nosurgery4clubfoot

>Subject: Help!!!

>Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:21:15 -0000

>

>I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

>The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

>three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

>and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

>but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

>it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

>She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

>see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

>what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

>have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

>thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

>ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

>it has completely rubbed off!

>

>Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

>I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

>I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

>scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

>around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

>I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

>Jen & Livie

>

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Thank you all so much for your suggestions. I finally realized that I

actually have photos of Olivia's brace and some pretty close up ones that I

just took recently to send to Dr. P. None of them was close enough to see

the degree markings in the photo, but I was able to " eyeball " where to set

it at.

I did find an interesting thing though, I think that her shoe is actually

set at more than 70 degrees. In all the photos that I have from when she

was younger I can see half that screw you are talking about , but in

the more recent ones (since her relapse), it is completely under the bar.

It was set up in Iowa and checked by Dr. Ponseti, so I'm sure it was where

he wanted it to be, but it surprised me that it is turned out farther now.

I hadn't noticed that before.

I also remembered that awhile back that particular screw (under the bar) had

come loose slightly and I had a heck of a time tightening it back up because

it was under the bar. I didn't want to just take her shoe off and then

tighten it because I didn't want to screw up the external rotation, so I

tightened it as well as possible with a really skinny screwdriver that I

layed on its side. I also failed to notice then that the markings were

gone. If I had noticed, I would have put them back and NOT had this

problem! lol

I also noticed tonight that there are degree markings on the tools that they

gave us. I wonder if you can use those to help set the proper degrees?

We'll be back in Iowa in November and I'm asking for a new bar because Livie

has been exceptionally hard on this one since she doesn't nap anymore, but

still wears it two hours in the afternoon and 14 hours overnight. She has

completely worn away the paint on the bottom of the bar and the shoe plates

have deep grooves in the edges from her walking on them. I'm also going to

ask for a lesson in setting it to the proper degrees. She's going to be in

the FAB for at least another year so I envision just more of the same kinds

of problems. I want to be better equipped to handle it next time!

Thanks so much for all the help!!

Jen & Livie

Help!!!

> >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:21:15 -0000

> >

> >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> >

> >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> >it has completely rubbed off!

> >

> >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> >

> >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> >

> >Jen & Livie

> >

>

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Thank you all so much for your suggestions. I finally realized that I

actually have photos of Olivia's brace and some pretty close up ones that I

just took recently to send to Dr. P. None of them was close enough to see

the degree markings in the photo, but I was able to " eyeball " where to set

it at.

I did find an interesting thing though, I think that her shoe is actually

set at more than 70 degrees. In all the photos that I have from when she

was younger I can see half that screw you are talking about , but in

the more recent ones (since her relapse), it is completely under the bar.

It was set up in Iowa and checked by Dr. Ponseti, so I'm sure it was where

he wanted it to be, but it surprised me that it is turned out farther now.

I hadn't noticed that before.

I also remembered that awhile back that particular screw (under the bar) had

come loose slightly and I had a heck of a time tightening it back up because

it was under the bar. I didn't want to just take her shoe off and then

tighten it because I didn't want to screw up the external rotation, so I

tightened it as well as possible with a really skinny screwdriver that I

layed on its side. I also failed to notice then that the markings were

gone. If I had noticed, I would have put them back and NOT had this

problem! lol

I also noticed tonight that there are degree markings on the tools that they

gave us. I wonder if you can use those to help set the proper degrees?

We'll be back in Iowa in November and I'm asking for a new bar because Livie

has been exceptionally hard on this one since she doesn't nap anymore, but

still wears it two hours in the afternoon and 14 hours overnight. She has

completely worn away the paint on the bottom of the bar and the shoe plates

have deep grooves in the edges from her walking on them. I'm also going to

ask for a lesson in setting it to the proper degrees. She's going to be in

the FAB for at least another year so I envision just more of the same kinds

of problems. I want to be better equipped to handle it next time!

Thanks so much for all the help!!

Jen & Livie

Help!!!

> >Date: Wed, 22 Sep 2004 21:21:15 -0000

> >

> >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> >

> >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> >it has completely rubbed off!

> >

> >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> >

> >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> >

> >Jen & Livie

> >

>

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Kori,

I would love to see that photo when you get the chance. Either directly to me

or at CFPics is fine!

Thanks for the help,

Jen

Re: Help!!!

Jen,

It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be in the

front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to explain -

but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

few!). So give me some time.

Kori

At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

>The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

>three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

>and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

>but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

>it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

>She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

>see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

>what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

>have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

>thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

>ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

>it has completely rubbed off!

>

>Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

>I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

>I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

>scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

>around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

>I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

>Jen & Livie

>

>

>

>

>

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Kori,

I would love to see that photo when you get the chance. Either directly to me

or at CFPics is fine!

Thanks for the help,

Jen

Re: Help!!!

Jen,

It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be in the

front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to explain -

but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

few!). So give me some time.

Kori

At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

>The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

>three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

>and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

>but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

>it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

>She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

>see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

>what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

>have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

>thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

>ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

>it has completely rubbed off!

>

>Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

>I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

>I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

>scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

>around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

>I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

>Jen & Livie

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Daiga!

That is exactly what Livie's brace used to look like, but if you read my message

to , I think she's actually set out a little more than 70. I got out

some recent pics that I had of Livie and " eyeballed " it back as best I could.

She's sleeping peacefully, so it must not be hurting her. I'll have to keep a

close eye out in the next few days for blisters though, I think!

Jen & Livie

Re: Help!!!

Jen, was the left foot turned out at 70 degrees? If so, go to the

following link and if you scroll down, you see some pictures of a FAB

set up for LCF with the correct settings. You can sort of 'eye' it

to set the bar back up (that's what I had to do with Owen's when we

first got the bar because it hadn't been set up properly " .

http://pages.ivillage.com/ponseti_links/id9.html

Hope this helps1

Daiga and Owen, 02/04/03

Unilateral LCF, FAB 14/24

> I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart

today!

> The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being

almost

> three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

>

> She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't

know

> what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right.

Anybody

> have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which

I

> thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> it has completely rubbed off!

>

> Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> around here that would be able to do it for me.

>

> I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

>

> Jen & Livie

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ugh! I've been looking for my CD all afternoon. I feel so bad. I have a

good pic for you. I will finalize the CD and then send it (it takes 13mb

to finalize it - but I can't read it till it's finalized) since I can't

find the CD. Stupid!

When you see it you'll know what I'm talking about but for now imagine

this: Put the shoe on the bar so that it is pointed straight forward. So

that it's actually 90 degrees to the bar itself (the toes pointing forward,

if you pointed the shoe so the toes pointed to the side the shoe would be

parallel to the bar, this isn't what I want you to do - does that make

sense?). If you imagine where the center of the shoe would be when it's

pointing straight to the front, that's where you can take a sharpie and

mark on the bar itself. Imagine where the center of the hole is and that's

where you put the mark on the front of the bar. Then, when you look at the

degree markings on the sole plate you can line that mark up to the 70

degree mark.

I have to get kids into bed, but I will try to get that picture sent as

soon as I can. gotta run... the're wrestling on the floor at my feet

instead of brushing their teeth...

Kori

At 07:19 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>Kori,

>

>I would love to see that photo when you get the chance. Either directly

>to me or at CFPics is fine!

>

>Thanks for the help,

>

>Jen

> Re: Help!!!

>

>

> Jen,

>

> It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

> Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be in the

> front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to explain -

> but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

> pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

>

> I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

> again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

> few!). So give me some time.

>

> Kori

>

>

> At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> >

> >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> >it has completely rubbed off!

> >

> >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> >

> >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> >

> >Jen & Livie

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I just realized something, conversely, if you mark the ends of the bar in

the center of the bar at the tip you can then set the sole plate at 30

degreees. that might be easier...

At 07:29 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>ugh! I've been looking for my CD all afternoon. I feel so bad. I have a

>good pic for you. I will finalize the CD and then send it (it takes 13mb

>to finalize it - but I can't read it till it's finalized) since I can't

>find the CD. Stupid!

>

>When you see it you'll know what I'm talking about but for now imagine

>this: Put the shoe on the bar so that it is pointed straight forward. So

>that it's actually 90 degrees to the bar itself (the toes pointing forward,

>if you pointed the shoe so the toes pointed to the side the shoe would be

>parallel to the bar, this isn't what I want you to do - does that make

>sense?). If you imagine where the center of the shoe would be when it's

>pointing straight to the front, that's where you can take a sharpie and

>mark on the bar itself. Imagine where the center of the hole is and that's

>where you put the mark on the front of the bar. Then, when you look at the

>degree markings on the sole plate you can line that mark up to the 70

>degree mark.

>

>I have to get kids into bed, but I will try to get that picture sent as

>soon as I can. gotta run... the're wrestling on the floor at my feet

>instead of brushing their teeth...

>

>Kori

>

>

>

>

>At 07:19 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> >Kori,

> >

> >I would love to see that photo when you get the chance. Either directly

> >to me or at CFPics is fine!

> >

> >Thanks for the help,

> >

> >Jen

> > Re: Help!!!

> >

> >

> > Jen,

> >

> > It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

> > Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be

> in the

> > front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to

> explain -

> > but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

> > pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

> >

> > I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

> > again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

> > few!). So give me some time.

> >

> > Kori

> >

> >

> > At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> > >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> > >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> > >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> > >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> > >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> > >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> > >

> > >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> > >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> > >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> > >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> > >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> > >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> > >it has completely rubbed off!

> > >

> > >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> > >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> > >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> > >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> > >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> > >

> > >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> > >

> > >Jen & Livie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I just realized something, conversely, if you mark the ends of the bar in

the center of the bar at the tip you can then set the sole plate at 30

degreees. that might be easier...

At 07:29 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

>ugh! I've been looking for my CD all afternoon. I feel so bad. I have a

>good pic for you. I will finalize the CD and then send it (it takes 13mb

>to finalize it - but I can't read it till it's finalized) since I can't

>find the CD. Stupid!

>

>When you see it you'll know what I'm talking about but for now imagine

>this: Put the shoe on the bar so that it is pointed straight forward. So

>that it's actually 90 degrees to the bar itself (the toes pointing forward,

>if you pointed the shoe so the toes pointed to the side the shoe would be

>parallel to the bar, this isn't what I want you to do - does that make

>sense?). If you imagine where the center of the shoe would be when it's

>pointing straight to the front, that's where you can take a sharpie and

>mark on the bar itself. Imagine where the center of the hole is and that's

>where you put the mark on the front of the bar. Then, when you look at the

>degree markings on the sole plate you can line that mark up to the 70

>degree mark.

>

>I have to get kids into bed, but I will try to get that picture sent as

>soon as I can. gotta run... the're wrestling on the floor at my feet

>instead of brushing their teeth...

>

>Kori

>

>

>

>

>At 07:19 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> >Kori,

> >

> >I would love to see that photo when you get the chance. Either directly

> >to me or at CFPics is fine!

> >

> >Thanks for the help,

> >

> >Jen

> > Re: Help!!!

> >

> >

> > Jen,

> >

> > It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

> > Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be

> in the

> > front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to

> explain -

> > but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

> > pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

> >

> > I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

> > again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite a

> > few!). So give me some time.

> >

> > Kori

> >

> >

> > At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> > >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> > >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> > >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> > >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> > >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> > >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> > >

> > >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> > >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> > >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> > >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> > >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> > >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> > >it has completely rubbed off!

> > >

> > >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> > >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> > >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> > >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> > >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> > >

> > >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> > >

> > >Jen & Livie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I think I am envisioning what you are saying. Livie is in bed right now with

her brace set at my eyeballed degrees for tonight, but I will check it in the

moring and see what it is set at!

Thanks a bunch!!

Jen & Livie

Re: Help!!!

> >

> >

> > Jen,

> >

> > It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

> > Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be

> in the

> > front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to

> explain -

> > but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

> > pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

> >

> > I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

> > again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite

a

> > few!). So give me some time.

> >

> > Kori

> >

> >

> > At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> > >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> > >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> > >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> > >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> > >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> > >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> > >

> > >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> > >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> > >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> > >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> > >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> > >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> > >it has completely rubbed off!

> > >

> > >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> > >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> > >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> > >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> > >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> > >

> > >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> > >

> > >Jen & Livie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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I think I am envisioning what you are saying. Livie is in bed right now with

her brace set at my eyeballed degrees for tonight, but I will check it in the

moring and see what it is set at!

Thanks a bunch!!

Jen & Livie

Re: Help!!!

> >

> >

> > Jen,

> >

> > It's hard to know what's what on the red bar. Let me take a picture of

> > Darbi's bar and you can compare to that. The degree mark should be

> in the

> > front of the bar, in the midline of the bolt hole. It's hard to

> explain -

> > but you'll see the mark Angel made on Darbi's bar for me when I send the

> > pic. Do you want me to send it directly to you or to the CFPics list?

> >

> > I also have to install the software for my camera first (new hard drive

> > again - no software on here anymore! no pictures either - I lost quite

a

> > few!). So give me some time.

> >

> > Kori

> >

> >

> > At 02:21 PM 9/22/2004, you wrote:

> > >I just picked Livie up from daycare and her brace came apart today!

> > >The screw on the bottom of the shoe came loose and she (being almost

> > >three) took it completely out. I have all of the parts (bar shoe

> > >and screw), so I can easily reassemble it and tighten it back down,

> > >but it was on her clubfoot side and I have no idea how to tell if

> > >it's set at 70 degrees of external rotation.

> > >

> > >She has the red adjustable bar from Iowa with the Markell shoes. I

> > >see the degree markings on the bottom of the plate, but I don't know

> > >what to compare them to, to make sure that it is set right. Anybody

> > >have any ideas?? It had a marker line on it when we got it, which I

> > >thought at the time was a wonderful idea in case anything like this

> > >ever happened, but that was months ago and I failed to notice that

> > >it has completely rubbed off!

> > >

> > >Remember that she is still in it 16 hours a day after a relapse, so

> > >I don't want to set it to low and have her start to relapse again.

> > >I suppose if I set it too far, she'll be uncomfortable. We're not

> > >scheduled to go back to Iowa until November and I know of no one

> > >around here that would be able to do it for me.

> > >

> > >I don't know what to do and I'm starting to panic!!

> > >

> > >Jen & Livie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Ok I know this is all up to me. I need to get a grip and get back on

track. But Im gaining again. Ive gone from bouncing between 150 and

155 to an all time high of 159!!! So thats a 9 pound gain since

reaching my lowest of 150. Im scared!!! I see the nutritionalist

Monday and I know whats causing it. But I dont know how to stop

grazing again. In the morning Im so full of determination but by 3 pm

its like I cant stop myself. Im where I dont want to eat at all. I am

truly petrified here and freaking out. Im sooooo sooooo scared of

going back to what I was!!!! I want to get this 9 pounds back off!!!

Im NOT eating today!!

Too sad for huggles

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sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time with this. Maybe try to plan out your meals the day before and only allow yourself that amount of food. Maybe by seeing what you eat for the day it might help. This is of course only my suggestion I haven't had to deal with this issue quite yet but sure I will. I hope you get some ideas from the nutritionist also that you might be able to share with the rest of us too. Keep your head high reflect on where you have come from and don't beat yourself up too bad.. You've done a great job so far.

Rose Diane Duenas wrote:

Ok I know this is all up to me. I need to get a grip and get back on track. But Im gaining again. Ive gone from bouncing between 150 and 155 to an all time high of 159!!! So thats a 9 pound gain since reaching my lowest of 150. Im scared!!! I see the nutritionalist Monday and I know whats causing it. But I dont know how to stop grazing again. In the morning Im so full of determination but by 3 pm its like I cant stop myself. Im where I dont want to eat at all. I am truly petrified here and freaking out. Im sooooo sooooo scared of going back to what I was!!!! I want to get this 9 pounds back off!!!Im NOT eating today!!Too sad for huggles__________________________________________________

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sorry to hear that you are having such a difficult time with this. Maybe try to plan out your meals the day before and only allow yourself that amount of food. Maybe by seeing what you eat for the day it might help. This is of course only my suggestion I haven't had to deal with this issue quite yet but sure I will. I hope you get some ideas from the nutritionist also that you might be able to share with the rest of us too. Keep your head high reflect on where you have come from and don't beat yourself up too bad.. You've done a great job so far.

Rose Diane Duenas wrote:

Ok I know this is all up to me. I need to get a grip and get back on track. But Im gaining again. Ive gone from bouncing between 150 and 155 to an all time high of 159!!! So thats a 9 pound gain since reaching my lowest of 150. Im scared!!! I see the nutritionalist Monday and I know whats causing it. But I dont know how to stop grazing again. In the morning Im so full of determination but by 3 pm its like I cant stop myself. Im where I dont want to eat at all. I am truly petrified here and freaking out. Im sooooo sooooo scared of going back to what I was!!!! I want to get this 9 pounds back off!!!Im NOT eating today!!Too sad for huggles__________________________________________________

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Go back to journaling! It is a must.

> Ok I know this is all up to me. I need to get a grip and get back on

> track. But Im gaining again. Ive gone from bouncing between 150 and

> 155 to an all time high of 159!!! So thats a 9 pound gain since

> reaching my lowest of 150. Im scared!!! I see the nutritionalist

> Monday and I know whats causing it. But I dont know how to stop

> grazing again. In the morning Im so full of determination but by 3 pm

> its like I cant stop myself. Im where I dont want to eat at all. I am

> truly petrified here and freaking out. Im sooooo sooooo scared of

> going back to what I was!!!! I want to get this 9 pounds back off!!!

>

> Im NOT eating today!!

>

> Too sad for huggles

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I thought I couldn't get access yesterday, but I just needed to sign in to Yahoo groups. On any email from PSC_support it says " visit your group " on the right hand side. It will take you to the group but doesn't allow you access. At the top of the screen,there is a " sign in " link. click on that and it will direct you to a place where can enter your user ID and password. There is a link if you've forgotten your user ID or password. Good luck.

Ian

Does anyone know why I cannot get access to the group any longer? I still get the posts sent to my email address, but I can not get on the actual website. PSC support is no longer listed in my yahoo groups and it says that I have to join to do anything on the site, although I've been a member since 2001. Help, please. I'm frustrated as I wanted to research some old posts.

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I thought I couldn't get access yesterday, but I just needed to sign in to Yahoo groups. On any email from PSC_support it says " visit your group " on the right hand side. It will take you to the group but doesn't allow you access. At the top of the screen,there is a " sign in " link. click on that and it will direct you to a place where can enter your user ID and password. There is a link if you've forgotten your user ID or password. Good luck.

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Does anyone know why I cannot get access to the group any longer? I still get the posts sent to my email address, but I can not get on the actual website. PSC support is no longer listed in my yahoo groups and it says that I have to join to do anything on the site, although I've been a member since 2001. Help, please. I'm frustrated as I wanted to research some old posts.

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I had the same problem. I clicked the visit your group from the digest

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Thanks , I have it all working again.

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I had the same problem. I clicked the visit your group from the digest

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Thanks , I have it all working again.

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I had the same problem. I clicked the visit your group from the digest

page and rest it as a favorite and deleted the old one I had in my

favorites. Solved the problem!

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