Re: UC, goat yogurt and cow yogurt

[Guest guest]

> I'm still trying to find ways to get my son to gain weight, and I'm

> realizing that no dairy also means a lot less calories.

yep - it's much easier for me to lose on no dairy than with lots of

dairy.

unfortunately.

> He's never tolerated cow's milk very well, but seems to do okay

> with small amounts of sheep or goat milk cheese.

>

> Is there anyone on here with UC that has found that they do better

> on goat milk yogurt, rather than cow milk? Are most people with UC

> dairy free?

nope - there is no general rule, but I think many more people are

on dairy than not.

> I know that everyone is different, but I'm wondering if there is

> any pattern at all. Trader Joe's has goat milk, but I'm still

> hesitating. It would be so nice to be able to make some recipes

> that call for yogurt and maybe something like ice cream.

Well, you could do what the ASD kids do - and start him on like

1/8th or 1/4 teaspoon and work up slowly from there.

And start off fermenting the yogurt for like 28 hours instead of 24.

He might be able to handle it - and if he does, the SCD healing is

magnified by the yogurt probiotics quite a lot.

Mara

[Guest guest]

>I'm still trying to find ways to get my son to gain weight, and I'm realizing that no dairy also means a lot less calories. He's never tolerated cow's milk very well, but >seems to do okay with small amounts of sheep or goat milk cheese.

Hi Liz-

My daughter has Crohn's and tested IgG to

cow's dairy. She did fine with goat milk yogurt.

To add in extra calories we used 500 cal. smoothies

once or twice a day. Mix your choice of fruit, diluted

juice, yogurt (optional) avocado- optional honey/coconut oil

- ice if desired. All sorts of options.

Nut butters are good for calories too. Add olive oil

or butter to veggies to add in calories.

Diane D.

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, we do smoothies, almond butter brownies, butter and honey on carrots

and everything I can think of. He stopped losing weight, but it's hard to gain

while having 2-1/2 hour football practices and PE daily. All his friends eat

enourmous amounts of sandwiches, cookies, chips, candy, pop, slurpees and all

kinds of stuff that would make most people get huge, but they maintain their

weight on that. It's a big job to try to get enough calories in him right now.

I insist that he eat about a 500+ calorie snack right at bedtime every night.

Teenaged boys eat a ton normally, but it's amazing how much they eat when they

need to gain weight! I think he ate at least a pound of meatloaf for dinner

tonight!

Thanks,

Liz

> To add in extra calories we used 500 cal. smoothies

> once or twice a day. Mix your choice of fruit, diluted

> juice, yogurt (optional) avocado- optional honey/coconut oil

> - ice if desired. All sorts of options.

> Nut butters are good for calories too. Add olive oil

> or butter to veggies to add in calories.

>

> Diane D.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, we do smoothies, almond butter brownies, butter and honey on carrots

and everything I can think of. He stopped losing weight, but it's hard to gain

while having 2-1/2 hour football practices and PE daily. All his friends eat

enourmous amounts of sandwiches, cookies, chips, candy, pop, slurpees and all

kinds of stuff that would make most people get huge, but they maintain their

weight on that. It's a big job to try to get enough calories in him right now.

I insist that he eat about a 500+ calorie snack right at bedtime every night.

Teenaged boys eat a ton normally, but it's amazing how much they eat when they

need to gain weight! I think he ate at least a pound of meatloaf for dinner

tonight!

Thanks,

Liz

> To add in extra calories we used 500 cal. smoothies

> once or twice a day. Mix your choice of fruit, diluted

> juice, yogurt (optional) avocado- optional honey/coconut oil

> - ice if desired. All sorts of options.

> Nut butters are good for calories too. Add olive oil

> or butter to veggies to add in calories.

>

> Diane D.

>

[Guest guest]

Oh yeah, we do smoothies, almond butter brownies, butter and honey on carrots

and everything I can think of. He stopped losing weight, but it's hard to gain

while having 2-1/2 hour football practices and PE daily. All his friends eat

enourmous amounts of sandwiches, cookies, chips, candy, pop, slurpees and all

kinds of stuff that would make most people get huge, but they maintain their

weight on that. It's a big job to try to get enough calories in him right now.

I insist that he eat about a 500+ calorie snack right at bedtime every night.

Teenaged boys eat a ton normally, but it's amazing how much they eat when they

need to gain weight! I think he ate at least a pound of meatloaf for dinner

tonight!

Thanks,

Liz

> To add in extra calories we used 500 cal. smoothies

> once or twice a day. Mix your choice of fruit, diluted

> juice, yogurt (optional) avocado- optional honey/coconut oil

> - ice if desired. All sorts of options.

> Nut butters are good for calories too. Add olive oil

> or butter to veggies to add in calories.

>

> Diane D.

>

[Guest guest]

Is there anyone on here with UC that has found that they do better on goat milk yogurt, rather than cow milk? Are most people with UC dairy free? I have UC, and I started out with goat yogurt because I was scared of the cow =) Eventually I switched to half and half yogurt, and ohmygosh, it is so much better =) lol the goat is actually still quite good, but you have to drip it for a while so it's not so super watery.After a while on the cow yogurt, I switched back to goat yogurt for a week or so, but didn't notice any changes. Then when I added it back in, still no changes. I also AK tested it, and it made my colon happy (yay) and since I got no reaction from it that I observed, I believed it and now use cow yogurt freely without any problem. The yogurt is the only dairy I use though, no DCCC or cheese. Those might come later..we'll see. Peace =)Alyssa 15 yoUC April 2008, dx Sept 2008SCD June 2009 (restarted)No meds! (except for the stupid iron pill I have to take that is SO illegal)

[Guest guest]

Marilyn and Alyssa - thanks for the comments. I knew there was a reason that

I've always had a rule that no one eats too close to bedtime. With all this

desperation I kind of forgot that it isn't really all that good for you. I'll

have him eat about an hour or so before. (I should know better, I'm a health

teacher!)

Thanks,

Liz

> >I've read that this isn't very good for you..It

> >may make you put on weight, but IMO it might

> >slow down the healing process. The time that

> >your body actually heals is at night while you

> >sleep, so if you eat a lot right before you go

> >to bed, it makes your body have to deal with the

> >food before it can even think about healing your

> >gut. I guess it's probably different for

> >everyone though, as usual, so if it works for

> >you, then that's cool =) Just something to think about..

>

> It depends on the individual.

>

> For myself, even though I'm trying to LOSE

> weight, I need a snack about a half an hour

> before bedtime, or I wake up in the middle of the

> night, starving, and unable to sleep because I'm so hungry.

>

> I chose to eat my snack half an hour to an hour

> before bed time to give the system a chance to

> handle the heavy-duty digestion, and to eliminate

> the probability of GERD symptoms.

>

>

> — Marilyn

> New Orleans, Louisiana, USA

> Undiagnosed IBS since 1976, SCD since 2001

> Darn Good SCD Cook

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