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In a message dated 2/15/01 9:28:38 AM Eastern Standard Time,

defcon_v@... writes:

> My two and half yr old has been waking up everynight for the past 3

> month from 1 am to 3 am, sometime longer. It is really hard on

> everyone. A friend has suggested this diet. Can anyone can please

> give me feedback /success stories. I would be very thankful for any

> comments.

>

>

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Yes, the diet has helped with this somewhat. I notice it more when we have

an infraction--meaning he accidently eats something with wheat or dairy.

Then he will stay up late and/or wake up in the middle of the night. I'm not

sure if it is a stomach ache or a reaction in the brain. You might also try

a little melatonin with magnesium for a week or two just to break him of the

habit. Sometimes this waking becomes a habit. I know I do this myself.

Good luck. I hope you get some sleep soon.

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I would reccomend the diet! My son turned 5 and was getting worse as far as

sleeping goes. Up for hours and hours we just were at our wits end. Within

the first week he started sleeping thru the night. For us this is a miracle

and if we see no other positive changes it doesn't matter. He has been up 2 x

in the last 3 months, once with an ear infection and the other with a cold

and cough. I was not a believer in the diet for long time but wish we had

started immediately.

Leslee Pieters

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I would reccomend the diet! My son turned 5 and was getting worse as far as

sleeping goes. Up for hours and hours we just were at our wits end. Within

the first week he started sleeping thru the night. For us this is a miracle

and if we see no other positive changes it doesn't matter. He has been up 2 x

in the last 3 months, once with an ear infection and the other with a cold

and cough. I was not a believer in the diet for long time but wish we had

started immediately.

Leslee Pieters

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In a message dated 2/15/01 7:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

whcmccain@... writes:

> My two and half yr old has been waking up everynight for the past 3

> > month from 1 am to 3 am, sometime longer. It is really hard on

> > everyone. A friend has suggested this diet. Can anyone can please

> > give me feedback /success stories. I would be very thankful for any

> > comments.

>

My DD only started sleeping through the night on a consistent basis the

day I removed bread - and only bread - from her diet. This was the main

source of gluten. She ate bread and cereal bars.

Margaret

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> My two and half yr old has been waking up everynight for the past 3

> month from 1 am to 3 am, sometime longer. It is really hard on

> everyone. A friend has suggested this diet. Can anyone can please

> give me feedback /success stories. I would be very thankful for any

> comments.

My older son started this diet when he was three and a half. He is now four

and a half and he tells me how he used to have such bad nightmares before

the diet. I used to be afraid to to go in his room to check on him when he

was younger, because if he sensed I was there he would immediately pop up

and start screaming. Now, he sleeps like a log, and if I go in to check on

him and he wakes up a little, he hugs me, then rolls over and goes back to

sleep.

My younger son started the diet only one month after his vaccine injury, but

in that month, he started waking up earlier and earlier in the morning

screaming. Once the diet started, he slept soundly again--except for when

we inadvertantly put acidophilus that was contaminated with dairy in his

bottle--then he started waking up screaming for his bottle. When we

realized that it was the acidophilus, we removed it, and the sleep problems

went away again.

Best,

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Gillian is 2.6 and 1 - 3 am was her time too. It was terrible. She was

exhausted (me too). We have been dieting for 5 months. She did go to only

up 4 of 7 nights. Then we added epsom salt baths. It helped. Then supps

(so far Kirkman nuthera, probiogold, Vit c and nystatin). We also refined

her diet more and are eliminating yeast. She has been sleeping from 8/8:30

til 7 am for a month now. She also takes a 1 - 2 hour nap. She is happier

and so are we. I really think it was a combo diet supp for us.

Keep going, you'll fix her!

in Chicago

Re: Night Wakings - Diet Change - feedback Please

>In a message dated 2/15/01 7:13:41 AM Pacific Standard Time,

>whcmccain@... writes:

>

>

>> My two and half yr old has been waking up everynight for the past 3

>> > month from 1 am to 3 am, sometime longer. It is really hard on

>> > everyone. A friend has suggested this diet. Can anyone can please

>> > give me feedback /success stories. I would be very thankful for any

>> > comments.

>>

>

>My DD only started sleeping through the night on a consistent basis the

>day I removed bread - and only bread - from her diet. This was the main

>source of gluten. She ate bread and cereal bars.

>

>Margaret

>

>

>

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What does he eat?

In a message dated 2/15/2001 9:22:36 PM Eastern Standard Time,

mdobbins@... writes:

<< We had to eliminate foods high in phenolic

compounds, such as bananas, chocolate, tomatoes, and artificial

colors. Plus he soaks in an Epsom salt bath every night for 30

minutes. Now he sleeps through pretty reliably from 9pm to 7am. He

just turned 3yo. Hope this helps. >>

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My child also woke reliably in the night, but his time was 4-6am.

Then he'd go to sleep and I'd get in the shower to go to work. I was

a wreck. The diet has been great in other ways, but it had no effect

on his sleeping. We had to eliminate foods high in phenolic

compounds, such as bananas, chocolate, tomatoes, and artificial

colors. Plus he soaks in an Epsom salt bath every night for 30

minutes. Now he sleeps through pretty reliably from 9pm to 7am. He

just turned 3yo. Hope this helps.

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Shari,

Yes, we've been using Kirkman's melatontin w/magnesium plus the extra

magnesium for some time. It puts him right to sleep, but it doesn't keep

him asleep. We've also tried the epsom salts bath with no apparent results.

Yesterday, we did not give him his supplement in the morning, nor did we

give him his melatonin/magnesium at bedtime. He went to bed promptly at

8pm, woke briefly around 2:30, then slept till 6am. I can live with that no

problem. I don't know if pulling the supplements has anything to do with

it, but I think today we will give him his morning supp, but skip the

melatonin/magnesium again tonight and see what happens. We're going for an

overnight visit to grandparents today, we'll see how that goes. The last

time we visited, he slept through the night.

Pat in Ohio

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Shari,

Yes, we've been using Kirkman's melatontin w/magnesium plus the extra

magnesium for some time. It puts him right to sleep, but it doesn't keep

him asleep. We've also tried the epsom salts bath with no apparent results.

Yesterday, we did not give him his supplement in the morning, nor did we

give him his melatonin/magnesium at bedtime. He went to bed promptly at

8pm, woke briefly around 2:30, then slept till 6am. I can live with that no

problem. I don't know if pulling the supplements has anything to do with

it, but I think today we will give him his morning supp, but skip the

melatonin/magnesium again tonight and see what happens. We're going for an

overnight visit to grandparents today, we'll see how that goes. The last

time we visited, he slept through the night.

Pat in Ohio

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Shari,

Yes, we've been using Kirkman's melatontin w/magnesium plus the extra

magnesium for some time. It puts him right to sleep, but it doesn't keep

him asleep. We've also tried the epsom salts bath with no apparent results.

Yesterday, we did not give him his supplement in the morning, nor did we

give him his melatonin/magnesium at bedtime. He went to bed promptly at

8pm, woke briefly around 2:30, then slept till 6am. I can live with that no

problem. I don't know if pulling the supplements has anything to do with

it, but I think today we will give him his morning supp, but skip the

melatonin/magnesium again tonight and see what happens. We're going for an

overnight visit to grandparents today, we'll see how that goes. The last

time we visited, he slept through the night.

Pat in Ohio

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Shari,

We used SNT for about 3 weeks, then discontinued due to the sleep

problems(even though we always gave the vites in the am) and the onset of

hand flapping that he never did before SNT. We found a cfgf children's

multiple that has significant amounts of the vitamins. It does not however,

have the megadoses of B vites like SNT. Our son is 3 1/2 and is on the

larger side of the growth chart, his color has a healthy glow and he eats a

very good cfgf diet. In other words, we feel that he is thriving. His

(sort of) chronic diarrhea (absorption problems?) and just the fact that

supplements are the law for asd kids are the only reasons we give him a

supplement at all. He's been on this supp for almost a week now. He also

takes it without a fight which much more than I can say for the SNT.

Pat in Ohio

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Shari,

We used SNT for about 3 weeks, then discontinued due to the sleep

problems(even though we always gave the vites in the am) and the onset of

hand flapping that he never did before SNT. We found a cfgf children's

multiple that has significant amounts of the vitamins. It does not however,

have the megadoses of B vites like SNT. Our son is 3 1/2 and is on the

larger side of the growth chart, his color has a healthy glow and he eats a

very good cfgf diet. In other words, we feel that he is thriving. His

(sort of) chronic diarrhea (absorption problems?) and just the fact that

supplements are the law for asd kids are the only reasons we give him a

supplement at all. He's been on this supp for almost a week now. He also

takes it without a fight which much more than I can say for the SNT.

Pat in Ohio

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That's interesting. My daughter has had a problem with eczema on her cheeks

since she was about a year old. (Right after she went off of soy formula.

Coincedence?) We've had her off of dairy for a week now and will remove

gluten from her diet in another week or so. Do you all think the eczema is

related to diet? It will be interesting to see if it clears up.

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Re: Night Wakings - Diet Change - feedback Please

> Shari,

> has been on Nystatin for some time. He still has occasional bouts

> with ecsema on his cheeks. I think it is related to slip ups.

> Pat in Ohio

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