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Thank you very much for thinking of me. I spent most of the day yesterday

undergoing tests. I saw my neurologist today and he said that it appeared to

him that my brain tumors are still dormant (from the Gamma Knife in 1999), but

to make sure he is waiting to hear from Dr. Arjunan (my neurosurgeon). My

Grandson (Jeff) is a surgical technician and he said he sees Dr. Arjunan one or

twice a week, so he will probably know something next week as Jeff has my DPOA

for Healthcare. He said that Dr. Arjunan said that he feels that I have

Mytochondrial Myopathy (whatever that means). Dr. Welch needed some more labs

done today so I had that done before Jeff got there to pick me up. I really

think I am getting along fairly well. I am being fitted for a brace on my right

foot next week and then on the 30th Dr. Baker is having me see one of his

associates about my right knee. Dr. Baker said that " my knee is shot " , but my

health is not good enough to risk trying a total knee, so he is

hopeful that Dr. Mumford will have some good ideas as my knee stays in a bent

position all the time. It will not straighten out and it won't bend enought to

get it out of peoples way, I have to be cautious of how and where I sit so I

won't trip people as they go by, it is sort of " jammed " , I guess? I do have one

out-patient surgery scheduled for April first, I am in hopes that I will be able

to regain some of the use of it. Again, thank you for the info and thank you

for thinking of me. God Bless and good luck!

ohgminion rakshasis@...> wrote:

This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

recall correctly) will be very interested:

http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

One reference of interest from it:

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

Take care,

RH

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Dolores,

First off, Thanks for offering to place me on the Prayer Chain at

your Prayer Group,I truly appreciate each and every Prayer the Lord

sends my way thru this Angel Messengers.

Second,RH sent you this link about some of the Parkinsonian symptoms

you maybe experiencing that may overlap Mito ones as well. I can tell

you that I have been suffering with several Neuro Symptoms for years

now that we either ignored, misdiagnosed or assummed to be just part

of the whole mito problem only to find a new drug, for me Requip,

that is usually used for Parkinson's patients to be helping me

greatly! I have shared often that I have been having an awful time

with the muscle twitches/ fasciculations that my newest Neuro (of

what seems like zillions :-)diagnosed as FASCICULATIONS and NOT RLS.

He started me on Requip, .25 mg twice daily,( just my personal dose

& not a recommendation to anyone here as we can't diagnosis or

dispense meds to the list for liability as we all are aware) which is

a Levodopa Antagonist that is used primarily for Parkinsons Patients

and I have noticed a rapid improvement. My legs have decreased their

moving spontaneously& significantly and I can sit on he couch at

night and read a book and NOT have to reposition them every few

moments to make them comfortable or stop reading to look at them

wiggle and move all over---------what a difference----I am so happy

about it! Finally one thing going my way lately :-0) I am not sure

exactly what the Neuro symptoms you and RH were discussing from a

Parkinsons stand point because I am quite far behind in some posts

due to all the medical stuff happening here, but i just wanted to add

my 2 cents that there is some benefit to the cross over of the use of

meds from standard practice to Mito.

For what it maybe worth,

, who is running a few days behind

>

> This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> recall correctly) will be very interested:

>

> http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

>

> One reference of interest from it:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

>

> Take care,

> RH

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Hi, Requip is one of the meds that my previous neurologist have given me as well

as Sinement, and Artane. When I saw Dr. Welch the neurologist that Dr. Baker

set up an appointment with for me (while I was in Washington State at my

cousins). She and her husband were in the midwest visiting friends and

relatives. Her brother lives at Hollister, Missouri, which is almost part of

Branson now. They stopped in Kansas City and then came here to visit me. They

got their heads together and checked with the airline they were ticketed on, to

see if there was availability for me to fly home with them as Christmas was

really going to be rough for me after just losing my son, August 25th.

Now I am afraid that he died from a Mytochondrial disease and in August. At that

time, I was using a walker and afraid that I might have to go to a wheelchair,

and then the next step would be a bad one, I was so afraid I would end up in a

nursing facility. I saw with my own eyes what happened to my

poor, Dear Mother, when my husband's cancer came back and I was having such a

hard time getting around and Mother's Alzheimers was progressing rapidly. We

were to the point that between the two of us we could hardly get get into the

bathroom and we had no alternative but to have her go to a nursing facility. I

lost her June 11, 2001 at 1:30 am. She had a light stroke (which the nurse did

not take note of) I had been to church and went straight over to see her so I

could get to the hospital to see my husband, and I immediately asked the nurse,

" when did she have a stroke and have you called the doctor " ? Her answer was,

" Gee, do you really think she has had a stroke " ? I informed her that I was

going to pick up my prescriptions and for her to call the doctor. I gave her my

cellphone number and told her to call me as soon as the doctor got there. Bless

her heart she had a massive heart attack and was gone before the sun came up on

a new day.. Nursing facilities are a horrible

place to be. I am so thankful to Dr. Baker cared enough to research my case to

find a defintive diagnosis. My son, Bill told me yesterday that he can't hardly

believe what he is seeing as since I am off all of the Parkinsons meds, that the

change in me and how good I can get around is amazing, as at 's funeral in

August it took three people to get me up a slight incline to his gravesite for

the rest of his funeral service. As I said I was having to use a walker and

having to have help to get in and out of a vehicle, in and out of church, and to

just stay on course. Parkisnsons meds killed my cousin at Hiawatha. Her

condition was so deterioated before her neurologist retired and another

neurologist took over her case and told her that even though she had been being

treated for Parkinsons that she did not now nor had she ever had Parkinsons and

that he was taking her off all her meds. She passed away in a nursing facility

where she had to go prior to the doctor telling her

she did not have Parkinsons. he poor husband just couldn't handle her any

longer. He would go to the nursing facility she was in and stay the entire day

with her to make sure she was cared for properly. I hope and pray that you will

get along OK and I am so thankful to the Good Lord for my second chance at being

an almost whole person again. I feel that I am a real Pain to my friends at

church, my son for having to stop what he is doing and run an errand for me or

come and get me to just go to the Telly machine that I can see from my door, but

just can't walk that far yet, my beloved Grandson for being willing to take on

my healthcare and seeing to it I get to where I need to go. He has three

daughters and yet he always check to see if I need anything or need picked up at

the doctors, or whatever. Dr. Baker says that my right knee is " shot " , but I am

in no condition for a total knee. He is going to have my right foot fitted for

a brace and then he is having me see another

doctor in His group to see if her has any good ideas about my knee. I am

scheduled for surgery on my right hand it appears that I have a nerve caught up

someway and they plan to go in and release it. My Grandson said he has seen

this surgery done a good many times, He has talked to a friend of his that is

an anesthesiologist and has told him that he wants som kind of a block done on

my arm for the surgery. He is a surgical technician so he has a lot of medical

knowledge and I am thankful I have him. I still have my box of Requip, as Dr.

Welch told me not to get rid of it as it is used for more than one illness. I

also have recently been diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia

in my right eye and the right side of my face. Dr. Welch had put me on Neurotin

for peripheral neuropathy in both legs. Prior to the Neurotin the only thing

that I was able to do for the neuropathy in my legs was to use my Antodyne Home

Thereapy machine every other day.

Dr. Welch now has me taking one 300 mg capsule four times daily for the

neuropathy in my legs and the neuralgis in my right eye and face. I have been

having horrible sharp stabbing pains in my right eye, it only lasts for a few

seconds but it comes back again and again. If the wind hits me in my face and

eye the pain is really bad. I am in hopes that the Neurotin will help my eye

also. With me it seems like it is one thing after another, but I keep plugging

along. God Bless you and yes, you are getting a lot of prayers! I pray that

it will help you. Dolores

mitomomtoo mitomomtoo@...> wrote:

Dolores,

First off, Thanks for offering to place me on the Prayer Chain at

your Prayer Group,I truly appreciate each and every Prayer the Lord

sends my way thru this Angel Messengers.

Second,RH sent you this link about some of the Parkinsonian symptoms

you maybe experiencing that may overlap Mito ones as well. I can tell

you that I have been suffering with several Neuro Symptoms for years

now that we either ignored, misdiagnosed or assummed to be just part

of the whole mito problem only to find a new drug, for me Requip,

that is usually used for Parkinson's patients to be helping me

greatly! I have shared often that I have been having an awful time

with the muscle twitches/ fasciculations that my newest Neuro (of

what seems like zillions :-)diagnosed as FASCICULATIONS and NOT RLS.

He started me on Requip, .25 mg twice daily,( just my personal dose

& not a recommendation to anyone here as we can't diagnosis or

dispense meds to the list for liability as we all are aware) which is

a Levodopa Antagonist that is used primarily for Parkinsons Patients

and I have noticed a rapid improvement. My legs have decreased their

moving spontaneously& significantly and I can sit on he couch at

night and read a book and NOT have to reposition them every few

moments to make them comfortable or stop reading to look at them

wiggle and move all over---------what a difference----I am so happy

about it! Finally one thing going my way lately :-0) I am not sure

exactly what the Neuro symptoms you and RH were discussing from a

Parkinsons stand point because I am quite far behind in some posts

due to all the medical stuff happening here, but i just wanted to add

my 2 cents that there is some benefit to the cross over of the use of

meds from standard practice to Mito.

For what it maybe worth,

, who is running a few days behind

>

> This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> recall correctly) will be very interested:

>

> http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

>

> One reference of interest from it:

>

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

>

> Take care,

> RH

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As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family,

but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my

paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly

enough.

Take care,

RH

> >

> > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> >

> > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> >

> > One reference of interest from it:

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

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This link between Parkinson's drugs and Complex I inhibition is quite

alarming to me, as a scientist. I wonder if the key mito docs know

about this (they probably do I guess), but I guess they probably

would not consider Parkinson's as a primary condition if mito is

present as well.

I am sorry for the loss of your son, especially under those

circumstances. We had previous threads about some of us having lab

results showing antiphospholipid syndrome, or other conditions

increasing clotting. I have had both poor clotting and increased

clotting, so I am taking Vitamin K (interesting, on the mito cocktail

list for MELAS) to help this out. As noted by other, I'm not a

doctor, this is just my personal experience. I wonder if others are

taking Vitamin K as part of their mito cocktail.

Take care,

RH

> >

> > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> >

> > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> >

> > One reference of interest from it:

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

>

>

>

>

>

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Hi RH,

I've got a bit lost in the previous post about Parkinsons and mito

and Dopamine..

I do know that I have read lately a lot about Parkinsons in the

journal of neurology and neuropsychiatry (think I spelt it right

)and the research seems to say that they are looking at a

mito defect as secondary and the parkinsons part comes first..I was

only reading the journal as the Doc I first saw is a Parkinsons

researcher and he misdiagnosed me...long story I don't go there..I

follow his work..

As I say I do get lost in all this..I have had to have a serotonin

test done by my mito. Doc and still don't know or understand why...

Gillian

> > >

> > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores

(if I

> > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > >

> > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > >

> > > One reference of interest from it:

> > >

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > RH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi RH,

I've got a bit lost in the previous post about Parkinsons and mito

and Dopamine..

I do know that I have read lately a lot about Parkinsons in the

journal of neurology and neuropsychiatry (think I spelt it right

)and the research seems to say that they are looking at a

mito defect as secondary and the parkinsons part comes first..I was

only reading the journal as the Doc I first saw is a Parkinsons

researcher and he misdiagnosed me...long story I don't go there..I

follow his work..

As I say I do get lost in all this..I have had to have a serotonin

test done by my mito. Doc and still don't know or understand why...

Gillian

> > >

> > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores

(if I

> > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > >

> > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > >

> > > One reference of interest from it:

> > >

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > RH

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins,

a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively.

They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical environment

where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it

has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about

a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number

of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this

was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various

other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their

mother and several other aunts and cousins.

B

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From: ohgminion

Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by

dopamine

As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family,

but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my

paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly

enough.

Take care,

RH

> >

> > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> >

> > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> >

> > One reference of interest from it:

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

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Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins,

a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively.

They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical environment

where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it

has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about

a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number

of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this

was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various

other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their

mother and several other aunts and cousins.

B

_____

From: ohgminion

Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM

To:

Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by

dopamine

As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family,

but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my

paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly

enough.

Take care,

RH

> >

> > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> >

> > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> >

> > One reference of interest from it:

> >

> > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

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Gillian

There is a mito component to Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Alshymers, CPT

and others. My MDA doc feels that a treatment for mito is going to

come through research on one of these, probably Parkinson's as there

is more money invoved in research and some big name celebs involved.

They are treating Parkinson's (may only be in a research setting) with

CoQ10 with some good results. It is this research that led him to

suggest getting my CpQ level to at least 1000 mg a day. It was at

1200 mg that they found the most help for those with Parkinson's

On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:36:26 -0600, Barbara Seaman

wheatchild@...> wrote:

>

> Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins,

> a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively.

> They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical

> environment

> where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it

> has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about

> a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number

> of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this

> was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various

> other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their

> mother and several other aunts and cousins.

>

>

>

> B

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: ohgminion

> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM

> To:

> Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by

> dopamine

>

>

>

>

> As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family,

> but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my

> paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly

> enough.

>

> Take care,

> RH

>

>

>

> > >

> > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I

> > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > >

> > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > >

> > > One reference of interest from it:

> > >

> > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > >

> > > Take care,

> > > RH

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks Laurie,

Yes I know the name of one of the Doc..Prof N W Wood at Queens

sq..who is one of the leaders on Parkinsons he seems to be

publishing papers everywhere on the subject..shame he overlooks mito

in patients as its not his speciality He gave me something called

(UK) sinemet that was awful ..The Parkinsons Grants are mega...I do

know they give Lamberts Q10 at Queen sq on prescription cos

they gave it to me but it made me worse.. That crowd there

have also now put the Familial Spastic Paraplegias , some types of,

under the mito involvement label as well SPG7 is one..

Oh Laurie... it just gets so complicated I give up at times and just

try to keep as well as possible..autoimmune, different complexes,

respiratory chains...and now this serotonin test..

Gillian

-- In , Laurie Fitzgerald

wrote:

> Gillian

>

> There is a mito component to Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Alshymers,

CPT

> and others. My MDA doc feels that a treatment for mito is going to

> come through research on one of these, probably Parkinson's as

there

> is more money invoved in research and some big name celebs

involved.

> They are treating Parkinson's (may only be in a research setting)

with

> CoQ10 with some good results. It is this research that led him to

> suggest getting my CpQ level to at least 1000 mg a day. It was at

> 1200 mg that they found the most help for those with Parkinson's

>

>

> On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:36:26 -0600, Barbara Seaman

> wrote:

> >

> > Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two

first cousins,

> > a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s

respectively.

> > They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical

> > environment

> > where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different

companies-and it

> > has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I

wonder about

> > a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there

are a number

> > of indications that the mito may come from that side of our

family and this

> > was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along

with various

> > other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives,

their

> > mother and several other aunts and cousins.

> >

> >

> >

> > B

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > From: ohgminion [mailto:rakshasis@e...]

> > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM

> > To:

> > Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1

inhibition by

> > dopamine

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our

family,

> > but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my

> > paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors,

interestingly

> > enough.

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

> >

> >

> >

> > > >

> > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores

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> > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

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> > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

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The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a neurotransmitter,

as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in

mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done,

part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was

out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution for

it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which

indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is tryptophan

with some extra OH groups :)

My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the low

list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may be a

side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients have.

Take care,

RH

> > > > >

> > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores

> (if I

> > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > > > >

> > > > > One reference of interest from it:

> > > > >

> > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > > > >

> > > > > Take care,

> > > > > RH

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Thanks RH

I was just told by my mito doc that he tests serotonin in his

patients so I just had the blood taken for it as requested..Dopamine

if I understand what I have read here...is in the brain and some of

us have had types of Parkinsons drugs which act on Dopamine and have

made us iller...So I therfore wonder what my mito. Doc (london UK)

is looking for and why or better still what they suspect...Due

to 'funding issues' they have reclassified me on NHS lists as CFS

despite my firm myto/cyto diagnosis..Its the only way apparently the

health authority will pay for me to see the mito team as they don't

fund genetic illness anymore..

being a typical mito it will probably be 'normal' but he told

us that some of his patients have had an abnormality in the

serotonin levels..I 'm sorry but I didn't really think to ask too

much about it

Also just found this site which appears mito up to date

http://news.surfwax.com/chemistry/files/Mitochondria.html and talks

about some of the things that have been discussed here recently

Gillian

-- In , " ohgminion " wrote:

>

> The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a

neurotransmitter,

> as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in

> mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done,

> part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was

> out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution

for

> it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which

> indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is

tryptophan

> with some extra OH groups :)

>

> My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the

low

> list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may

be a

> side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients

have.

>

> Take care,

> RH

>

>

>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least

Dolores

> > (if I

> > > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > > > > >

> > > > > > One reference of interest from it:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > RH

> > > >

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Gillian

I know what you mean about how complex mito is. I sure wish I had a

bio-chem background. It would be helpful if the doctors knew more. I

have seen a big improvement in the number or doctors and degree of

understanding since I started the mito journey. Hang in there.

laurie

On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:08:40 -0000, gillianstumps

gill@...> wrote:

>

>

> Thanks RH

>

> I was just told by my mito doc that he tests serotonin in his

> patients so I just had the blood taken for it as requested..Dopamine

> if I understand what I have read here...is in the brain and some of

> us have had types of Parkinsons drugs which act on Dopamine and have

> made us iller...So I therfore wonder what my mito. Doc (london UK)

> is looking for and why or better still what they suspect...Due

> to 'funding issues' they have reclassified me on NHS lists as CFS

> despite my firm myto/cyto diagnosis..Its the only way apparently the

> health authority will pay for me to see the mito team as they don't

> fund genetic illness anymore..

>

> being a typical mito it will probably be 'normal' but he told

> us that some of his patients have had an abnormality in the

> serotonin levels..I 'm sorry but I didn't really think to ask too

> much about it

>

> Also just found this site which appears mito up to date

> http://news.surfwax.com/chemistry/files/Mitochondria.html and talks

> about some of the things that have been discussed here recently

>

> Gillian

>

>

>

>

> -- In , " ohgminion " wrote:

> >

> > The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a

> neurotransmitter,

> > as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in

> > mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done,

> > part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was

> > out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution

> for

> > it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which

> > indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is

> tryptophan

> > with some extra OH groups :)

> >

> > My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the

> low

> > list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may

> be a

> > side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients

> have.

> >

> > Take care,

> > RH

> >

> >

> >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least

> Dolores

> > > (if I

> > > > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > One reference of interest from it:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Take care,

> > > > > > > RH

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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> of

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