Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Thank you very much for thinking of me. I spent most of the day yesterday undergoing tests. I saw my neurologist today and he said that it appeared to him that my brain tumors are still dormant (from the Gamma Knife in 1999), but to make sure he is waiting to hear from Dr. Arjunan (my neurosurgeon). My Grandson (Jeff) is a surgical technician and he said he sees Dr. Arjunan one or twice a week, so he will probably know something next week as Jeff has my DPOA for Healthcare. He said that Dr. Arjunan said that he feels that I have Mytochondrial Myopathy (whatever that means). Dr. Welch needed some more labs done today so I had that done before Jeff got there to pick me up. I really think I am getting along fairly well. I am being fitted for a brace on my right foot next week and then on the 30th Dr. Baker is having me see one of his associates about my right knee. Dr. Baker said that " my knee is shot " , but my health is not good enough to risk trying a total knee, so he is hopeful that Dr. Mumford will have some good ideas as my knee stays in a bent position all the time. It will not straighten out and it won't bend enought to get it out of peoples way, I have to be cautious of how and where I sit so I won't trip people as they go by, it is sort of " jammed " , I guess? I do have one out-patient surgery scheduled for April first, I am in hopes that I will be able to regain some of the use of it. Again, thank you for the info and thank you for thinking of me. God Bless and good luck! ohgminion rakshasis@...> wrote: This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I recall correctly) will be very interested: http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 One reference of interest from it: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract Take care, RH Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Dolores, First off, Thanks for offering to place me on the Prayer Chain at your Prayer Group,I truly appreciate each and every Prayer the Lord sends my way thru this Angel Messengers. Second,RH sent you this link about some of the Parkinsonian symptoms you maybe experiencing that may overlap Mito ones as well. I can tell you that I have been suffering with several Neuro Symptoms for years now that we either ignored, misdiagnosed or assummed to be just part of the whole mito problem only to find a new drug, for me Requip, that is usually used for Parkinson's patients to be helping me greatly! I have shared often that I have been having an awful time with the muscle twitches/ fasciculations that my newest Neuro (of what seems like zillions :-)diagnosed as FASCICULATIONS and NOT RLS. He started me on Requip, .25 mg twice daily,( just my personal dose & not a recommendation to anyone here as we can't diagnosis or dispense meds to the list for liability as we all are aware) which is a Levodopa Antagonist that is used primarily for Parkinsons Patients and I have noticed a rapid improvement. My legs have decreased their moving spontaneously& significantly and I can sit on he couch at night and read a book and NOT have to reposition them every few moments to make them comfortable or stop reading to look at them wiggle and move all over---------what a difference----I am so happy about it! Finally one thing going my way lately :-0) I am not sure exactly what the Neuro symptoms you and RH were discussing from a Parkinsons stand point because I am quite far behind in some posts due to all the medical stuff happening here, but i just wanted to add my 2 cents that there is some benefit to the cross over of the use of meds from standard practice to Mito. For what it maybe worth, , who is running a few days behind > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > One reference of interest from it: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > Take care, > RH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 Hi, Requip is one of the meds that my previous neurologist have given me as well as Sinement, and Artane. When I saw Dr. Welch the neurologist that Dr. Baker set up an appointment with for me (while I was in Washington State at my cousins). She and her husband were in the midwest visiting friends and relatives. Her brother lives at Hollister, Missouri, which is almost part of Branson now. They stopped in Kansas City and then came here to visit me. They got their heads together and checked with the airline they were ticketed on, to see if there was availability for me to fly home with them as Christmas was really going to be rough for me after just losing my son, August 25th. Now I am afraid that he died from a Mytochondrial disease and in August. At that time, I was using a walker and afraid that I might have to go to a wheelchair, and then the next step would be a bad one, I was so afraid I would end up in a nursing facility. I saw with my own eyes what happened to my poor, Dear Mother, when my husband's cancer came back and I was having such a hard time getting around and Mother's Alzheimers was progressing rapidly. We were to the point that between the two of us we could hardly get get into the bathroom and we had no alternative but to have her go to a nursing facility. I lost her June 11, 2001 at 1:30 am. She had a light stroke (which the nurse did not take note of) I had been to church and went straight over to see her so I could get to the hospital to see my husband, and I immediately asked the nurse, " when did she have a stroke and have you called the doctor " ? Her answer was, " Gee, do you really think she has had a stroke " ? I informed her that I was going to pick up my prescriptions and for her to call the doctor. I gave her my cellphone number and told her to call me as soon as the doctor got there. Bless her heart she had a massive heart attack and was gone before the sun came up on a new day.. Nursing facilities are a horrible place to be. I am so thankful to Dr. Baker cared enough to research my case to find a defintive diagnosis. My son, Bill told me yesterday that he can't hardly believe what he is seeing as since I am off all of the Parkinsons meds, that the change in me and how good I can get around is amazing, as at 's funeral in August it took three people to get me up a slight incline to his gravesite for the rest of his funeral service. As I said I was having to use a walker and having to have help to get in and out of a vehicle, in and out of church, and to just stay on course. Parkisnsons meds killed my cousin at Hiawatha. Her condition was so deterioated before her neurologist retired and another neurologist took over her case and told her that even though she had been being treated for Parkinsons that she did not now nor had she ever had Parkinsons and that he was taking her off all her meds. She passed away in a nursing facility where she had to go prior to the doctor telling her she did not have Parkinsons. he poor husband just couldn't handle her any longer. He would go to the nursing facility she was in and stay the entire day with her to make sure she was cared for properly. I hope and pray that you will get along OK and I am so thankful to the Good Lord for my second chance at being an almost whole person again. I feel that I am a real Pain to my friends at church, my son for having to stop what he is doing and run an errand for me or come and get me to just go to the Telly machine that I can see from my door, but just can't walk that far yet, my beloved Grandson for being willing to take on my healthcare and seeing to it I get to where I need to go. He has three daughters and yet he always check to see if I need anything or need picked up at the doctors, or whatever. Dr. Baker says that my right knee is " shot " , but I am in no condition for a total knee. He is going to have my right foot fitted for a brace and then he is having me see another doctor in His group to see if her has any good ideas about my knee. I am scheduled for surgery on my right hand it appears that I have a nerve caught up someway and they plan to go in and release it. My Grandson said he has seen this surgery done a good many times, He has talked to a friend of his that is an anesthesiologist and has told him that he wants som kind of a block done on my arm for the surgery. He is a surgical technician so he has a lot of medical knowledge and I am thankful I have him. I still have my box of Requip, as Dr. Welch told me not to get rid of it as it is used for more than one illness. I also have recently been diagnosed with trigeminal neuralgia in my right eye and the right side of my face. Dr. Welch had put me on Neurotin for peripheral neuropathy in both legs. Prior to the Neurotin the only thing that I was able to do for the neuropathy in my legs was to use my Antodyne Home Thereapy machine every other day. Dr. Welch now has me taking one 300 mg capsule four times daily for the neuropathy in my legs and the neuralgis in my right eye and face. I have been having horrible sharp stabbing pains in my right eye, it only lasts for a few seconds but it comes back again and again. If the wind hits me in my face and eye the pain is really bad. I am in hopes that the Neurotin will help my eye also. With me it seems like it is one thing after another, but I keep plugging along. God Bless you and yes, you are getting a lot of prayers! I pray that it will help you. Dolores mitomomtoo mitomomtoo@...> wrote: Dolores, First off, Thanks for offering to place me on the Prayer Chain at your Prayer Group,I truly appreciate each and every Prayer the Lord sends my way thru this Angel Messengers. Second,RH sent you this link about some of the Parkinsonian symptoms you maybe experiencing that may overlap Mito ones as well. I can tell you that I have been suffering with several Neuro Symptoms for years now that we either ignored, misdiagnosed or assummed to be just part of the whole mito problem only to find a new drug, for me Requip, that is usually used for Parkinson's patients to be helping me greatly! I have shared often that I have been having an awful time with the muscle twitches/ fasciculations that my newest Neuro (of what seems like zillions :-)diagnosed as FASCICULATIONS and NOT RLS. He started me on Requip, .25 mg twice daily,( just my personal dose & not a recommendation to anyone here as we can't diagnosis or dispense meds to the list for liability as we all are aware) which is a Levodopa Antagonist that is used primarily for Parkinsons Patients and I have noticed a rapid improvement. My legs have decreased their moving spontaneously& significantly and I can sit on he couch at night and read a book and NOT have to reposition them every few moments to make them comfortable or stop reading to look at them wiggle and move all over---------what a difference----I am so happy about it! Finally one thing going my way lately :-0) I am not sure exactly what the Neuro symptoms you and RH were discussing from a Parkinsons stand point because I am quite far behind in some posts due to all the medical stuff happening here, but i just wanted to add my 2 cents that there is some benefit to the cross over of the use of meds from standard practice to Mito. For what it maybe worth, , who is running a few days behind > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > One reference of interest from it: > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > Take care, > RH Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family, but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly enough. Take care, RH > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > Take care, > > RH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 6, 2005 Report Share Posted March 6, 2005 This link between Parkinson's drugs and Complex I inhibition is quite alarming to me, as a scientist. I wonder if the key mito docs know about this (they probably do I guess), but I guess they probably would not consider Parkinson's as a primary condition if mito is present as well. I am sorry for the loss of your son, especially under those circumstances. We had previous threads about some of us having lab results showing antiphospholipid syndrome, or other conditions increasing clotting. I have had both poor clotting and increased clotting, so I am taking Vitamin K (interesting, on the mito cocktail list for MELAS) to help this out. As noted by other, I'm not a doctor, this is just my personal experience. I wonder if others are taking Vitamin K as part of their mito cocktail. Take care, RH > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > Take care, > > RH > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hi RH, I've got a bit lost in the previous post about Parkinsons and mito and Dopamine.. I do know that I have read lately a lot about Parkinsons in the journal of neurology and neuropsychiatry (think I spelt it right )and the research seems to say that they are looking at a mito defect as secondary and the parkinsons part comes first..I was only reading the journal as the Doc I first saw is a Parkinsons researcher and he misdiagnosed me...long story I don't go there..I follow his work.. As I say I do get lost in all this..I have had to have a serotonin test done by my mito. Doc and still don't know or understand why... Gillian > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > Take care, > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. > The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. > List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the > content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding > changes in their own treatment. > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends > one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity > of the attack. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Hi RH, I've got a bit lost in the previous post about Parkinsons and mito and Dopamine.. I do know that I have read lately a lot about Parkinsons in the journal of neurology and neuropsychiatry (think I spelt it right )and the research seems to say that they are looking at a mito defect as secondary and the parkinsons part comes first..I was only reading the journal as the Doc I first saw is a Parkinsons researcher and he misdiagnosed me...long story I don't go there..I follow his work.. As I say I do get lost in all this..I have had to have a serotonin test done by my mito. Doc and still don't know or understand why... Gillian > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > Take care, > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. > The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. > List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the > content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding > changes in their own treatment. > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends > one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity > of the attack. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins, a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively. They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical environment where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their mother and several other aunts and cousins. B _____ From: ohgminion Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM To: Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by dopamine As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family, but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly enough. Take care, RH > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > Take care, > > RH Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins, a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively. They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical environment where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their mother and several other aunts and cousins. B _____ From: ohgminion Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM To: Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by dopamine As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family, but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly enough. Take care, RH > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > Take care, > > RH Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 Gillian There is a mito component to Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Alshymers, CPT and others. My MDA doc feels that a treatment for mito is going to come through research on one of these, probably Parkinson's as there is more money invoved in research and some big name celebs involved. They are treating Parkinson's (may only be in a research setting) with CoQ10 with some good results. It is this research that led him to suggest getting my CpQ level to at least 1000 mg a day. It was at 1200 mg that they found the most help for those with Parkinson's On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:36:26 -0600, Barbara Seaman wheatchild@...> wrote: > > Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins, > a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively. > They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical > environment > where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it > has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about > a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number > of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this > was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various > other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their > mother and several other aunts and cousins. > > > > B > > > > _____ > > From: ohgminion > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM > To: > Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by > dopamine > > > > > As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family, > but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my > paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly > enough. > > Take care, > RH > > > > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > Take care, > > > RH > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 7, 2005 Report Share Posted March 7, 2005 - Thanks Laurie, Yes I know the name of one of the Doc..Prof N W Wood at Queens sq..who is one of the leaders on Parkinsons he seems to be publishing papers everywhere on the subject..shame he overlooks mito in patients as its not his speciality He gave me something called (UK) sinemet that was awful ..The Parkinsons Grants are mega...I do know they give Lamberts Q10 at Queen sq on prescription cos they gave it to me but it made me worse.. That crowd there have also now put the Familial Spastic Paraplegias , some types of, under the mito involvement label as well SPG7 is one.. Oh Laurie... it just gets so complicated I give up at times and just try to keep as well as possible..autoimmune, different complexes, respiratory chains...and now this serotonin test.. Gillian -- In , Laurie Fitzgerald wrote: > Gillian > > There is a mito component to Parkinsons, Huntingtons, Alshymers, CPT > and others. My MDA doc feels that a treatment for mito is going to > come through research on one of these, probably Parkinson's as there > is more money invoved in research and some big name celebs involved. > They are treating Parkinson's (may only be in a research setting) with > CoQ10 with some good results. It is this research that led him to > suggest getting my CpQ level to at least 1000 mg a day. It was at > 1200 mg that they found the most help for those with Parkinson's > > > On Mon, 7 Mar 2005 08:36:26 -0600, Barbara Seaman > wrote: > > > > Very interesting link, RH. Thanks for posting it. I have two first cousins, > > a brother and sister, with PD. Age of onset was 20s and 30s respectively. > > They are both 40+ now. Both had worked in an industrial chemical > > environment > > where they were exposed to pesticides-though in different companies-and it > > has been suggested that is the cause in their case. However, I wonder about > > a genetic predisposition as a contributing factor. Also, there are a number > > of indications that the mito may come from that side of our family and this > > was reported in my case history. Their PD was mentioned along with various > > other potentially mito-related health issues in other relatives, their > > mother and several other aunts and cousins. > > > > > > > > B > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > From: ohgminion [mailto:rakshasis@e...] > > Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2005 9:43 PM > > To: > > Subject: Re: Interesting article about complex 1 inhibition by > > dopamine > > > > > > > > > > As far as I know, we don't have Parkinson's disease in our family, > > but my dad's side has essential tremor, occurring in many of my > > paternal relatives. NADH seems to help his tremors, interestingly > > enough. > > > > Take care, > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores (if I > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements contained herein > > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of this e mail > > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded of their > > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult with > > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who sends one is > > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of the attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a neurotransmitter, as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done, part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution for it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is tryptophan with some extra OH groups My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the low list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may be a side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients have. Take care, RH > > > > > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores > (if I > > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > contained herein > > > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of > this e mail > > > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are > reminded of their > > > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and > consult with > > > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who > sends one is > > > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of > the attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 8, 2005 Report Share Posted March 8, 2005 Thanks RH I was just told by my mito doc that he tests serotonin in his patients so I just had the blood taken for it as requested..Dopamine if I understand what I have read here...is in the brain and some of us have had types of Parkinsons drugs which act on Dopamine and have made us iller...So I therfore wonder what my mito. Doc (london UK) is looking for and why or better still what they suspect...Due to 'funding issues' they have reclassified me on NHS lists as CFS despite my firm myto/cyto diagnosis..Its the only way apparently the health authority will pay for me to see the mito team as they don't fund genetic illness anymore.. being a typical mito it will probably be 'normal' but he told us that some of his patients have had an abnormality in the serotonin levels..I 'm sorry but I didn't really think to ask too much about it Also just found this site which appears mito up to date http://news.surfwax.com/chemistry/files/Mitochondria.html and talks about some of the things that have been discussed here recently Gillian -- In , " ohgminion " wrote: > > The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a neurotransmitter, > as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in > mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done, > part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was > out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution for > it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which > indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is tryptophan > with some extra OH groups > > My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the low > list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may be a > side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients have. > > Take care, > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least Dolores > > (if I > > > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > > contained herein > > > > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of > > this e mail > > > > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are > > reminded of their > > > > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and > > consult with > > > > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > > > > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who > > sends one is > > > > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of > > the attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2005 Report Share Posted March 9, 2005 Gillian I know what you mean about how complex mito is. I sure wish I had a bio-chem background. It would be helpful if the doctors knew more. I have seen a big improvement in the number or doctors and degree of understanding since I started the mito journey. Hang in there. laurie On Tue, 08 Mar 2005 15:08:40 -0000, gillianstumps gill@...> wrote: > > > Thanks RH > > I was just told by my mito doc that he tests serotonin in his > patients so I just had the blood taken for it as requested..Dopamine > if I understand what I have read here...is in the brain and some of > us have had types of Parkinsons drugs which act on Dopamine and have > made us iller...So I therfore wonder what my mito. Doc (london UK) > is looking for and why or better still what they suspect...Due > to 'funding issues' they have reclassified me on NHS lists as CFS > despite my firm myto/cyto diagnosis..Its the only way apparently the > health authority will pay for me to see the mito team as they don't > fund genetic illness anymore.. > > being a typical mito it will probably be 'normal' but he told > us that some of his patients have had an abnormality in the > serotonin levels..I 'm sorry but I didn't really think to ask too > much about it > > Also just found this site which appears mito up to date > http://news.surfwax.com/chemistry/files/Mitochondria.html and talks > about some of the things that have been discussed here recently > > Gillian > > > > > -- In , " ohgminion " wrote: > > > > The serotonin test is interesting - serotonin is a > neurotransmitter, > > as is dopamine, but I haven't heard of its involvement in > > mitochondrial disease. I had some neurotransmitter testing done, > > part of an " integrative medicine " workup, of course everything was > > out of kilter, but of course they really didn't have a solution > for > > it. I had low tryptophan levels in my 24-hour urine sample, which > > indicates that serotonin levels might be low (serotonin is > tryptophan > > with some extra OH groups > > > > My understanding in a general sense is that " mood " etc. is on the > low > > list for the body's concerns, so messed up neurotransmitters may > be a > > side effect of the energy depletion that we mito dx'd patients > have. > > > > Take care, > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This article is on Parkinson's, so I think at least > Dolores > > > (if I > > > > > > > recall correctly) will be very interested: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.neurorx.org/cgi/content/full/1/1/139 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One reference of interest from it: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi? > > > > > > > cmd=retrieve&db=pubmed&list_uids=3100899&dopt=Abstract > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take care, > > > > > > > RH > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements > > > contained herein > > > > > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author > of > > > this e mail > > > > > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are > > > reminded of their > > > > > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and > > > consult with > > > > > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment. > > > > > > > > > > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone > who > > > sends one is > > > > > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity > of > > > the attack. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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