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Yes. It can be anywhere from pink to black and many shades in between.

Tea-colored, cola, black, brown, red, rose, rust. The color seems to vary

depending on the amount of myoglobin, although some patients have told me

that initial signs are red urine which then turns darker over the next few

hours. Others just say black or tea-colored. Once just for fun, I was going

to try to assemble all the different color descriptions of myoblobinuria I'd

heard from patients or seen in medical journals and print it in our

newsletter to demonstrate the wide variations. One of those things I never

got done.

B

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Of klaga5

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:21 AM

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Subject: red urine

Here's a question. Is the red urine of muscle breakdown really

red? Is it different colors for different people?

Kim

> Yes, the burnout factor. I was there lots of times too and

sometimes went

> several years without seeing a doctor. Waiting is not always a bad

strategy.

> You just have to decide whether you want to pursue right now. If

your PCP

> knows about the red urine, I'm surprised he would suggest

fibromyalgia, as

> it does not cause elevated CK or myoglobinuria. It would at least

be helpful

> to have the red urine evaluated. The fact that it occurs after

activity

> would certainly suggest myoglobinuria and muscle breakdown. At

the same

> time, they should check your CK. To have that confirmed would be

very

> helpful to Shoffner or any other expert if you decide to go ahead

and keep

> searching.

>

>

>

> B

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Thanks, mine has always been red. The worst time, it was like dark

cranberry juice. It shocked the lab tech. Back then I just assumed

it was a bladder infection, and they didn't have a clue, so it

wasn't tested. I can't imagine that a bladder infection could cause

it to be that color. That and the elevated pyruvate in my blood and

muscle means I probably need to go to Atlanta or Cleveland.

I guess the good news is that they tested for the dozen or so most

common metabolic diseases, and ruled them out. The bad news is that

it points more toward mito.

Kim

> > Yes, the burnout factor. I was there lots of times too and

> sometimes went

> > several years without seeing a doctor. Waiting is not always a

bad

> strategy.

> > You just have to decide whether you want to pursue right now. If

> your PCP

> > knows about the red urine, I'm surprised he would suggest

> fibromyalgia, as

> > it does not cause elevated CK or myoglobinuria. It would at

least

> be helpful

> > to have the red urine evaluated. The fact that it occurs after

> activity

> > would certainly suggest myoglobinuria and muscle breakdown. At

> the same

> > time, they should check your CK. To have that confirmed would be

> very

> > helpful to Shoffner or any other expert if you decide to go

ahead

> and keep

> > searching.

> >

> >

> >

> > B

>

>

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

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this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded

of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult

with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

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> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of

the attack.

>

>

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I had urine that color for two weeks after my kidney stone surgery, but it

was mostly due to the temporary stent, I think. Once they took it out, the

bleeding stopped. Yellow never looked so good! Mine was like dark red wine

with large clots. It gradually lightened to the color of cranberry juice

toward the end of the two weeks. I don't know that a bladder infection can

ever cause that much bleeding, but kidneys can. Definitely should be

checked.

B

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From: [mailto: ] On Behalf

Of klaga5

Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2005 11:44 AM

To:

Subject: Re: red urine

Thanks, mine has always been red. The worst time, it was like dark

cranberry juice. It shocked the lab tech. Back then I just assumed

it was a bladder infection, and they didn't have a clue, so it

wasn't tested. I can't imagine that a bladder infection could cause

it to be that color. That and the elevated pyruvate in my blood and

muscle means I probably need to go to Atlanta or Cleveland.

I guess the good news is that they tested for the dozen or so most

common metabolic diseases, and ruled them out. The bad news is that

it points more toward mito.

Kim

> > Yes, the burnout factor. I was there lots of times too and

> sometimes went

> > several years without seeing a doctor. Waiting is not always a

bad

> strategy.

> > You just have to decide whether you want to pursue right now. If

> your PCP

> > knows about the red urine, I'm surprised he would suggest

> fibromyalgia, as

> > it does not cause elevated CK or myoglobinuria. It would at

least

> be helpful

> > to have the red urine evaluated. The fact that it occurs after

> activity

> > would certainly suggest myoglobinuria and muscle breakdown. At

> the same

> > time, they should check your CK. To have that confirmed would be

> very

> > helpful to Shoffner or any other expert if you decide to go

ahead

> and keep

> > searching.

> >

> >

> >

> > B

>

>

>

>

>

> Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

contained herein

> are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of

this e mail

> is entirely responsible for its content. List members are reminded

of their

> responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and consult

with

> their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

>

> Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

sends one is

> automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of

the attack.

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks, I'm convinced to go in when it happens again. I can see now

that my reluctance to go in when I'm having trouble is getting in

the way of figuring this out.

Kim

> > > Yes, the burnout factor. I was there lots of times too and

> > sometimes went

> > > several years without seeing a doctor. Waiting is not always a

> bad

> > strategy.

> > > You just have to decide whether you want to pursue right now.

If

> > your PCP

> > > knows about the red urine, I'm surprised he would suggest

> > fibromyalgia, as

> > > it does not cause elevated CK or myoglobinuria. It would at

> least

> > be helpful

> > > to have the red urine evaluated. The fact that it occurs after

> > activity

> > > would certainly suggest myoglobinuria and muscle breakdown.

At

> > the same

> > > time, they should check your CK. To have that confirmed would

be

> > very

> > > helpful to Shoffner or any other expert if you decide to go

> ahead

> > and keep

> > > searching.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > B

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Medical advice, information, opinions, data and statements

> contained herein

> > are not necessarily those of the list moderators. The author of

> this e mail

> > is entirely responsible for its content. List members are

reminded

> of their

> > responsibility to evaluate the content of the postings and

consult

> with

> > their physicians regarding changes in their own treatment.

> >

> > Personal attacks are not permitted on the list and anyone who

> sends one is

> > automatically moderated or removed depending on the severity of

> the attack.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

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