Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Ann-Marie My rotator cuff pain was one of the most intense pains I have ever felt - labor pains were mere twinches by comparison. Yes, the pain went down to my elbow, but of course, I had fallen on the elbow which tore it. My tear was so severe, that I was unable to move the sholder at all. When it was moved for me, the pain was even worse I would highly recommend that you get treatment for this right away. A less severe tear (still lots of pain) can be treated without surgery in many cases, but does need treatment. My son tore his and was able to avoid surgery by having anti-inflammatory meds and physical therapy over several weeks. Good luck. I'll be thinking of you. laurie > > Hi Laurie, > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was > wondering if > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your > shoulder ball to your elbow? > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you > tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder > is all swollen. > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with > my surgery right around the corner. > > Thanks > Hugs, > Ann-Marie > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Horrible, sudden searing pain could also be a partial dislocation. I've had a partially dislocated shoulder and hips (both, at different times luckily), and my son has had a full elbow dislocation. Pain is unbelievable, but pain decreases tremendously after popping it back in place. Best done at a doctor's office the first time, otherwise, I pop my shoulder and hip back in as soon as I figure it out, and I was told how to get my son's elbow back in (had to do it once, luckily it hasn't recurred since then). Just a thought, RH > Hi Laurie, > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was wondering if > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your shoulder ball to your elbow? > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder is all swollen. > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with my surgery right around the corner. > > Thanks > Hugs, > Ann-Marie > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 Thanks Laurie, Yes, my shoulder pain is really bad. I can hardly move my shoulder, and I can't freely move my arm like I can move my other one. Just moving it in the wrong direction causes intense pain that no one should have to ever experience. It will have to wait b/c I am going to Boston for my J tube surgery next week. This couldn't have happened at a worse time for me. I think I will call my PCP and ask her for some Flexeril. I am happy to hear that your son was able to avoid surgery and that the physcial therapy and muscle relaxants helped him. Thanks again Hugs, Ann-Marie Re: Laurie: Rotor Cuff Damage/ OT Ann-Marie My rotator cuff pain was one of the most intense pains I have ever felt - labor pains were mere twinches by comparison. Yes, the pain went down to my elbow, but of course, I had fallen on the elbow which tore it. My tear was so severe, that I was unable to move the sholder at all. When it was moved for me, the pain was even worse I would highly recommend that you get treatment for this right away. A less severe tear (still lots of pain) can be treated without surgery in many cases, but does need treatment. My son tore his and was able to avoid surgery by having anti-inflammatory meds and physical therapy over several weeks. Good luck. I'll be thinking of you. laurie > > Hi Laurie, > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was > wondering if > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your > shoulder ball to your elbow? > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you > tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder > is all swollen. > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with > my surgery right around the corner. > > Thanks > Hugs, > Ann-Marie > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 RH, Reading your post made me cringe in pain... Have they told you why your shoulder and hips become dislocated? Is it lack of calcium in your bones? or the fluid in between your joints? I am sorry that you and your son go through this. Poor little guy. By knowing how to pop them back into place at home, it surely cuts down on time spent at the Hospital Thanks Hugs, Ann-Marie Re: Laurie: Rotor Cuff Damage/ OT Horrible, sudden searing pain could also be a partial dislocation. I've had a partially dislocated shoulder and hips (both, at different times luckily), and my son has had a full elbow dislocation. Pain is unbelievable, but pain decreases tremendously after popping it back in place. Best done at a doctor's office the first time, otherwise, I pop my shoulder and hip back in as soon as I figure it out, and I was told how to get my son's elbow back in (had to do it once, luckily it hasn't recurred since then). Just a thought, RH > Hi Laurie, > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was wondering if > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your shoulder ball to your elbow? > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder is all swollen. > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with my surgery right around the corner. > > Thanks > Hugs, > Ann-Marie > > > ---------- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 My husband had a torn labrum, as opposed to a torn rotator cuff. I guess the thing is, make sure you get a doctor who is willing to do an arthrogram or whatever necessary testing (that is, something beyond an Xray). The first doctor my husband went to did an Xray, and said " probably torn rotator cuff, we'll go in and take a look " . The second doctor did an arthrogram, and found that the rotator cuff was fine, but the labrum (like the patella (knee cap) in the knee, but in the shoulder) was torn. Big difference in the surgeries for each, and exploratory surgery on the shoulder was not a good prospect. But after rereading your email, the fact that you can move certain ways and not others makes me wonder about a dislocation (or a broken collarbone, any chance of that?). ('Course, if it is a dislocation only, the anesthesia at your surgery should help everything loosen up and slide back into place!) Take care, RH > > > > Hi Laurie, > > > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was > > wondering if > > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your > > shoulder ball to your elbow? > > > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you > > tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder > > is all swollen. > > > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with > > my surgery right around the corner. > > > > Thanks > > Hugs, > > Ann-Marie > > > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2005 Report Share Posted April 17, 2005 My dog who is 7 1/2yrs.old just this week tore her patella. I am hoping she will heal without surgery, but it doesn't look good right now. She walks on her tip-toes and is in alot of pain. We are giving her meds to help keep her comfortable, but only time will tell. Good thing that your husband had the arthrogram. Can you imagine having the surgery done for your rotator cuff instead of what was really wrong? Totally different types of surgery. Thank goodness for second opinions!!! Funny you asked about my collarbone, well, it is swollen and does hurt. That was the first thing I noticed was wrong, and then the shoulder pain came soon after. I am wondering now, if I should cancel my J tube surgery and tend to this first. But the Mito docs will not be happy if I put off the J tube surgery any longer. But if it is just a dislocation, the anesthesia would certainly help it. So much going on all at once, and add all the stress that my body is going through right now, it doesn't make a sound body for surgery. Hugs, Ann-Marie Re: Laurie: Rotor Cuff Damage/ OT My husband had a torn labrum, as opposed to a torn rotator cuff. I guess the thing is, make sure you get a doctor who is willing to do an arthrogram or whatever necessary testing (that is, something beyond an Xray). The first doctor my husband went to did an Xray, and said " probably torn rotator cuff, we'll go in and take a look " . The second doctor did an arthrogram, and found that the rotator cuff was fine, but the labrum (like the patella (knee cap) in the knee, but in the shoulder) was torn. Big difference in the surgeries for each, and exploratory surgery on the shoulder was not a good prospect. But after rereading your email, the fact that you can move certain ways and not others makes me wonder about a dislocation (or a broken collarbone, any chance of that?). ('Course, if it is a dislocation only, the anesthesia at your surgery should help everything loosen up and slide back into place!) Take care, RH > > > > Hi Laurie, > > > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and was > > wondering if > > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside of your > > shoulder ball to your elbow? > > > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. Could you > > tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? My shoulder > > is all swollen. > > > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with this with > > my surgery right around the corner. > > > > Thanks > > Hugs, > > Ann-Marie > > > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: 4/14/2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 Poor puppy! I broke my collarbone when I was 12. It took me 6 weeks to go to the doctor - I finally noticed a bump on my collarbone. The only problems I was having is that I couldn't sleep unless I had a pillow under my shoulder/arm, and couldn't move the arm certain ways. If you do have a broken collarbone, they would probably give you a " figure 8 " brace, and not do much more. Even if you have a torn rotator cuff, I'm sure there are things they can do without surgery (like for Laurie's son) that should ease your pain. It's a tough call - my take on pain is related to whether it is all the time, and how severe it is (and also how long it has been going on). I spent most of Sunday with severe arthritis pain in my spine, and managed to do some exercise which finally loosened it up (and confirmed it was my arthritis instead of something new). I guess if I was in your situation, with the surgery scheduled for next week, I'd request an Xray at least ASAP (do you think you'll be screaming from pain on the operating table - they might notice LOL?) Could you ask your mito doc (Dr. H-P? Clinic is today, so she might be able to answer today if you call or fax) about the Flexeril, that is if you can take it before surgery? Wishing you and your dog healing vibes! Take care, RH > > > > > > Hi Laurie, > > > > > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) > and was > > > wondering if > > > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the > inside of your > > > shoulder ball to your elbow? > > > > > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. > Could you > > > tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your arm? > My shoulder > > > is all swollen. > > > > > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal > with this with > > > my surgery right around the corner. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Hugs, > > > Ann-Marie > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: > 4/14/2005 > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 No, no one has mentioned why it might happen. My sons have dx'd hypotonia, so I might have some too. I first dislocated my shoulder in college, and the doctor asked if I swam or lifted weights. I laughed, no I didn't, just have big shoulders for a woman. Since then, it's the same shoulder, every few years or so. Regarding my son, the doctor says that elbow dislocations are common at around 3 to 4 years old, I hope (fingers crossed) he has grown out of it. My hips are messed up because of my back injury and surgery - the muscles and nerves got permanently damaged from that, and they just couldn't return to 100%. I'm REALLY lucky that I don't have more problems from my hips and back, between the arthritis, nerve, and muscle damage. The mito doc (Dr. h-p) can't figure out if I have a gait problem, or just can't walk straight because of these issues. Sorry to make you cringe - we have a high pain tolerance in our family, perhaps mito-related, so no biggie I also take methyl sulfonyl methane, which is supposed to help repair joints (provides sulfur for repair proteins), I find it is the only thing keeping me out of the hospital for my back and hip pain. Take care, RH > > Hi Laurie, > > > > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) and > was wondering if > > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the inside > of your shoulder ball to your elbow? > > > > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. > Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved your > arm? My shoulder is all swollen. > > > > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal with > this with my surgery right around the corner. > > > > Thanks > > Hugs, > > Ann-Marie > > > > > > ---------- > > > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: > 4/14/2005 > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2005 Report Share Posted April 18, 2005 It sounds like some type of connective tissue disease of which there are several types. ohgminion wrote: >No, no one has mentioned why it might happen. My sons have dx'd >hypotonia, so I might have some too. I first dislocated my shoulder >in college, and the doctor asked if I swam or lifted weights. I >laughed, no I didn't, just have big shoulders for a woman. Since >then, it's the same shoulder, every few years or so. > >Regarding my son, the doctor says that elbow dislocations are common >at around 3 to 4 years old, I hope (fingers crossed) he has grown out >of it. > >My hips are messed up because of my back injury and surgery - the >muscles and nerves got permanently damaged from that, and they just >couldn't return to 100%. I'm REALLY lucky that I don't have more >problems from my hips and back, between the arthritis, nerve, and >muscle damage. The mito doc (Dr. h-p) can't figure out if I have a >gait problem, or just can't walk straight because of these issues. > >Sorry to make you cringe - we have a high pain tolerance in our >family, perhaps mito-related, so no biggie I also take methyl >sulfonyl methane, which is supposed to help repair joints (provides >sulfur for repair proteins), I find it is the only thing keeping me >out of the hospital for my back and hip pain. > >Take care, >RH > > >> > Hi Laurie, >> > >> > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) >> >> >and > > >> was wondering if >> > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the >> >> >inside > > >> of your shoulder ball to your elbow? >> > >> > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. >> Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved >> >> >your > > >> arm? My shoulder is all swollen. >> > >> > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal >> >> >with > > >> this with my surgery right around the corner. >> > >> > Thanks >> > Hugs, >> > Ann-Marie >> > >> > >> > ---------- >> > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: >> 4/14/2005 >> > >> > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 Now that I think of it, I've been screened for scleroderma (a long time ago), I wonder if I should search out a rheumatologist... Thanks, RH > >> > Hi Laurie, > >> > > >> > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) > >> > >> > >and > > > > > >> was wondering if > >> > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the > >> > >> > >inside > > > > > >> of your shoulder ball to your elbow? > >> > > >> > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor cuff. > >> Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved > >> > >> > >your > > > > > >> arm? My shoulder is all swollen. > >> > > >> > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal > >> > >> > >with > > > > > >> this with my surgery right around the corner. > >> > > >> > Thanks > >> > Hugs, > >> > Ann-Marie > >> > > >> > > >> > ---------- > >> > > >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. > >> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > >> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: > >> 4/14/2005 > >> > > >> > > >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2005 Report Share Posted April 19, 2005 It is something to think about anyway. ohgminion wrote: >Now that I think of it, I've been screened for scleroderma (a long >time ago), I wonder if I should search out a rheumatologist... > >Thanks, >RH > > > > >>>> > Hi Laurie, >>>> > >>>> > I know you tore/damaged your rotor cuff last year(or longer) >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>and >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> was wondering if >>>> > you got intense searing pain that would shoot down from the >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>inside >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> of your shoulder ball to your elbow? >>>> > >>>> > I am having horrible pain, and I believe I tore my rotor >>>> >>>> >cuff. > > >>>> Could you tell me what directions hurt the most when you moved >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>your >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> arm? My shoulder is all swollen. >>>> > >>>> > I am hoping that it isn't a torn rotor cuff, no time to deal >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>with >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> this with my surgery right around the corner. >>>> > >>>> > Thanks >>>> > Hugs, >>>> > Ann-Marie >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > ---------- >>>> > >>>> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >>>> > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >>>> > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.11 - Release Date: >>>> 4/14/2005 >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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