Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 At 02:23 AM 4/22/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone know why so many people have trouble sleeping >afterwards? If one is not uncomfortable/in pain, I wonder what the >physiological reason is....... I know for me it is because my normal sleep position is curled up on one side (at that time only on my right side). I found the hospital bad comfortable because I had the ability to raise and lower the bed, and because my op leg was in a device that kept it elevated, so I could actually move it. When I got home to my own bed, I was stuck on my back and couldn't get comfortable. I had to wake my poor mother up and ask for help every time I wanted to change positions. I bought a huge pillow and had several other extra pillows that I tucked various places, but didn't manage to get very comfortable for very long. Once I could move a little and could lie on my side, sleep was again heavenly. Cindy C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01 Dr. Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 At 02:23 AM 4/22/2004 +0000, you wrote: >Does anyone know why so many people have trouble sleeping >afterwards? If one is not uncomfortable/in pain, I wonder what the >physiological reason is....... I know for me it is because my normal sleep position is curled up on one side (at that time only on my right side). I found the hospital bad comfortable because I had the ability to raise and lower the bed, and because my op leg was in a device that kept it elevated, so I could actually move it. When I got home to my own bed, I was stuck on my back and couldn't get comfortable. I had to wake my poor mother up and ask for help every time I wanted to change positions. I bought a huge pillow and had several other extra pillows that I tucked various places, but didn't manage to get very comfortable for very long. Once I could move a little and could lie on my side, sleep was again heavenly. Cindy C+ 5/25/01 and 6/28/01 Dr. Boyd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 1, 2005 Report Share Posted January 1, 2005 Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 2, 2005 Report Share Posted January 2, 2005 Sharon, I have a bit of a sleep problem now with my son. How many times is your son waking up a night? When you go in to see what the problem is what happens? You have to rock him back to sleep or just readjust him and pat his bottom? Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB 23/7 _____ From: Sharon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:24 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi - sorry to hear that you are going through it as well, but its nice to know I have company. wakes up between 3 to 5 times a night. We are still giving him a dream feed (bottle around 10.30pm while he is asleep, but he usually wakes up for it). Sometimes there is no problem when we go into him. Other times he has rolled himself to the side of the cot with his back against it, stuck up in the corner. Last night I read one of my teach to sleep books for his age and tried to practice a something like controlled crying. This went on from 1.30am to 3am. In the end I gave him a bottle and he was happy, fell asleep and didn't wake until 7am. In between he made a few grizzles and tuneful cries but went back to sleep without any help from us. We try to fill him up during the day with solids and bottle feeds. There are also nights where he doesn't want the bottle and just cries for who knows what. When we go into his room, he hears the door open and his cry changes and he is usually on all fours (he can't crawl yet). When we don't pick him up he cries more and louder. Generally, as soon as we pick him up he will go to sleep straight away (he is a nice cuddly baby) or he will continue crying. If he has gone to sleep while we are nursing him he will wake when we put him down and then we have to start all over again. It's never ending. I was hoping he will grow out of it, but it doesn't look promising if your son is also having sleep problems. We are going on holidays to Penang, Malaysia this week and when we get back we are going to get serious about his crying and how much comforting we do for him. I sound heartless, but it's draining us personally and our relationship. I am sure you understand I have a contact for a mothercraft nurse who comes to the house and shows you what to do and lets us know if we are doing anything to cause these problems, it also depends on $$$ - I have been told I can claim on my health insurance. You'd think we'd know what to do, we already have a 2 year old and sorted him out very early, although he doesn't have to wear a DBB to bed. She's kind of like the Baby Whisperer. Do you have a similar resources in the States? Can I ask, why does Christian still wear his DBB 23/7 when he is 11 months old? is just over 8 months and wears his DBB at night only approx 12 hours (but we all know he doesn't sleep that long). Sharon Gerace cgerace@...> wrote: Sharon, I have a bit of a sleep problem now with my son. How many times is your son waking up a night? When you go in to see what the problem is what happens? You have to rock him back to sleep or just readjust him and pat his bottom? Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB 23/7 _____ From: Sharon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:24 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Me again, Forgot to say I first try not to move him if he is not stuck. Then pat his bottom or if he is on his side one hand on shoulder and pat or rock bottom (this usually works). My other son likes to have his back rubbed and I also try this with with a bit of bottom patting. What do you do? Sharon Gerace cgerace@...> wrote: Sharon, I have a bit of a sleep problem now with my son. How many times is your son waking up a night? When you go in to see what the problem is what happens? You have to rock him back to sleep or just readjust him and pat his bottom? Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB 23/7 _____ From: Sharon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:24 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi all! I too was were you are with the sleeping... or lack thereof! My husband and I decided to try the Ferber method. My son was also up 3-4 times a night for whatever reason. What you do is put your child to bed AWAKE (i know it is very hard but this does work.) If your child does cry, scream wail.. whatever do not pick them up. Just go into their room after 5 minutesrub their back or belly and then leave after 15 seconds or so. If it continues then go in after 6 minutes, 10 minutes 15 minutes 20 minutes, 25 minutes 30 minutes. If it continues just keep going in after 30 minutes. I know it sounds hard and heartless but it worked for us the second night and we never had to go past the 10 minute mark. Do this when your child wakes in the night as well..... no bottles! Our son now sleeps from 7 pm till 7 am.... i love it! sweet dreams, Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 My son is nearly 21 months. He has never been a good sleeper and would not be rocked or cuddled, the ONLY thing that put him straight back to sleep with no fuss or bother was another bottle of milk (or breast when I was feeding him). I tried it all and he really just rolled over and went back off on his own with just a few ounces. I always put him in a sleeping bag too which seemed to help. We did have a bit of a time with him a few months back when he just would not take the bottle or be cuddled or anything he just cried and cried. That lasted a few weeks and I still don't know what that was about. I have put some of it down to teething, some to the bar but who knows?? I work p/t too, so it was pretty hard. ANyway we put him in his car' bed a few months back and he sleeps (most) nights all the way through. Sometimes he wakes up and cries out but normally goes off on his own now. If he cries too long now I will still give him a bottle but it is rare now for me to have to do that. I have 2 older girls (non c/f) who both slept through from an early age. I definately watch his naps in the day and won't let him sleep if it is too late in the day that is for sure. It will get easier Rach, Steve & Connor -- Re: sleeping Children sleeping/not sleeping is a dangerous topic!! But I just wanted to say that I co-slept with both my older 2 (Ava is still in our bed). Guinevere went to her crib around 5 months, cried herself to sleep 2 nights, then was fine. I would put her in awake, and she would fall asleep within a few minutes. Our son on, on the other hand....ahhhh!!! He would cry & scream until he literally threw up! So obviously I wasn't going to continue doing that to him. Not only was it way too traumatic on him, but I hate cleaning up puke!!! I can't say exactly what we did, a combination of crying it out, and giving in when the time seemed right. But he's just over 2 now, and goes to sleep just fine in his " big boy bed " every night with just a prayer and kisses. And he's been doing this for a while. I guess my point is, every baby is different. And even if it seems your baby will scream/cry/sleep with you FOREVER rest assured that they will work it out. The Ferber method doesn't work for every baby. My theory has always been that I love sharing a bed with my DH, and if he's not home for some reason, I have alot of trouble falling asleep. I usually end up pulling the kids in bed with me. So why should I expect this little tiny baby, who literally was IN my body it's whole life, to be born and then suddenly not have any contact. They look so tiny & sad in their little crib. They're meant to be cuddled!! I know everybody's different, but this is what worked for us--and still works!! , mommy of: Guinevere, on, Ava 8/4/04 right CF DBB 23/7 > > > > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar > to > > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him > up > > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - > need > > some sleep! > > > > Thanks > > Alison > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 , that sounds worth trying. Thanks. Extra shut eye would be fantastic - haven't had a dream for a long time. So Ferber says leave after 15 seconds (or there abouts) even if baby is still screaming? and jmartin017@...> wrote: Hi all! I too was were you are with the sleeping... or lack thereof! My husband and I decided to try the Ferber method. My son was also up 3-4 times a night for whatever reason. What you do is put your child to bed AWAKE (i know it is very hard but this does work.) If your child does cry, scream wail.. whatever do not pick them up. Just go into their room after 5 minutesrub their back or belly and then leave after 15 seconds or so. If it continues then go in after 6 minutes, 10 minutes 15 minutes 20 minutes, 25 minutes 30 minutes. If it continues just keep going in after 30 minutes. I know it sounds hard and heartless but it worked for us the second night and we never had to go past the 10 minute mark. Do this when your child wakes in the night as well..... no bottles! Our son now sleeps from 7 pm till 7 am.... i love it! sweet dreams, Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi Sharon. Yes, leave after 15 seconds and he suggests not to speak to your baby just soothe them by rubbing thier back or belly and then leave. We were amazed at how quickly this method worked with our son. Our twin nephews also learned to sleep through with this method and I believe it took about 5 days with them but each night was better. I know we were deperate for sleep especially since we have a 3 and a half year old daughter who needs us to be well rested as well. Everyone is happier now. Good luck and let me know how it goes. The trick is putting them to sleep awake. Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 3, 2005 Report Share Posted January 3, 2005 Hi Sharon, I wish we did have a similar resource here but we don't. At least there is none that I know of. Christian changed over to a Ponseti Certified doctor (his first doctor said he did but lied) at 6 months old. That is why we are still in the DBB 23 hours a day. I really shouldn't complain because my first one was horrible he woke up at night until he was 2! Christian was waking up every night until 2 weeks after the DBB was put on. Then he started randomly sleeping through the night and I finally, FINALLY, got him down to once a night, once in a while. It not nearly as bad as you guys have it! 3-5 times a night is insane!! I can't believe he doesn't give up when you try and let him cry it out. Talk about persistent! I hope we all get our sleeping issues resolved and that we can rest peacefully soon. Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB 23/7 _____ From: Sharon Sent: Monday, January 03, 2005 5:35 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: RE: Re: sleeping Hi - sorry to hear that you are going through it as well, but its nice to know I have company. wakes up between 3 to 5 times a night. We are still giving him a dream feed (bottle around 10.30pm while he is asleep, but he usually wakes up for it). Sometimes there is no problem when we go into him. Other times he has rolled himself to the side of the cot with his back against it, stuck up in the corner. Last night I read one of my teach to sleep books for his age and tried to practice a something like controlled crying. This went on from 1.30am to 3am. In the end I gave him a bottle and he was happy, fell asleep and didn't wake until 7am. In between he made a few grizzles and tuneful cries but went back to sleep without any help from us. We try to fill him up during the day with solids and bottle feeds. There are also nights where he doesn't want the bottle and just cries for who knows what. When we go into his room, he hears the door open and his cry changes and he is usually on all fours (he can't crawl yet). When we don't pick him up he cries more and louder. Generally, as soon as we pick him up he will go to sleep straight away (he is a nice cuddly baby) or he will continue crying. If he has gone to sleep while we are nursing him he will wake when we put him down and then we have to start all over again. It's never ending. I was hoping he will grow out of it, but it doesn't look promising if your son is also having sleep problems. We are going on holidays to Penang, Malaysia this week and when we get back we are going to get serious about his crying and how much comforting we do for him. I sound heartless, but it's draining us personally and our relationship. I am sure you understand I have a contact for a mothercraft nurse who comes to the house and shows you what to do and lets us know if we are doing anything to cause these problems, it also depends on $$$ - I have been told I can claim on my health insurance. You'd think we'd know what to do, we already have a 2 year old and sorted him out very early, although he doesn't have to wear a DBB to bed. She's kind of like the Baby Whisperer. Do you have a similar resources in the States? Can I ask, why does Christian still wear his DBB 23/7 when he is 11 months old? is just over 8 months and wears his DBB at night only approx 12 hours (but we all know he doesn't sleep that long). Sharon Gerace cgerace@...> wrote: Sharon, I have a bit of a sleep problem now with my son. How many times is your son waking up a night? When you go in to see what the problem is what happens? You have to rock him back to sleep or just readjust him and pat his bottom? Mommy to (12-17-98) and Christian (1-30-04) LCF - DBB 23/7 _____ From: Sharon Sent: Sunday, January 02, 2005 5:24 AM To: nosurgery4clubfoot Subject: Re: Re: sleeping Hello Just wanted to vent and let everyone know I too have a bad sleeper. I am not sure if it is his DBB or if it is him. We have even been to a sleep school for a week when he was 7 months old and don't seem to have progressed in the right direction. They said wait till he is out of brace and then see what happens. Easy for them, in the mean time DH and I will just go batty with little sleep. Our babe also seems to have numerous coughs and runny noses. Oh well, what can we do besides love him, cuddle him and give him extra comfort feeds. I'm sure we're digging a bigger grave for ourselves. He's nearly 9 months I thought we'd have him sorted out by now. He prefers to sleep on his tummy now and having his bottom patted and then rolls around gets wedged in the corner of his cot and cries for assistance and can't put him self back to sleep. OK I feel better now. Would love to hear how others overcome or deal with sleep deprivation. He is awake again, 2nd time tonight and its only 9.21pm. Ggrrrr. Bye Sharon Charlie 2 20th April 04, RCF DBB night time only Alison McGranaghan alisonmcgranaghan@...> wrote: Hi Its not Alison here, but her brother Graham. She doesn't get onto the computer much (hasn't got one at her house) but I'll let her know there's a message for her - I'm sure she'll be very glad to chat to some people who have had similar experiences as she's quite stressed these days! As far as I know, her son (Rory, 6 months) Sleeps better on his side at the moment as he has a long-lasting chesty cough. Unfortunately, the bar means he tips over onto his front, where he doesn't sleep so well.....but I'm sure she can explain it all better than me. Thanks Graham jennyandkelly jenrichtrevillian@...> wrote: Hi, Alison, What kind of issues is he having? Is he getting stuck when he tries to turn over, or banging the brace on the crib and waking himself up? Is he getting tangled up in blankets? How long has he been in it? Most kids figure out how to be comfortable on their own, it just takes a few nights. Are you using a sleep sack (bunting with closed bottom) on him? How old is your little one? If you let us know a bit more detail, hopefully we can help you fix the problem!!! Welcome to the board! & (3-16-00), left clubfoot > > > Hello, does anyone have tips on getting a baby with boots and bar to > sleep, when they want to turn over through the night? Propping him up > on his side doesn't seem to work. Getting a bit desparate now - need > some sleep! > > Thanks > Alison Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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