Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I agree. accomadations should be made for those who can't afford anything else. but, the stuff is going to be free right? I think the re-donation idea is a good one. Sometimes when I shop at consignment stores, I wonder exactly how many different babies have already worn what I am buying, b/c usually when Kaitlin is finished wearing it, it still looks just as good as it did when I got it. Did that make sense? I think we CAN do this! we might have to work the kinks out as they happen, but that's to be expected! Alright, anyone know how to get this off the ground???? Freeman In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, jcypher@... writes: > I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation > would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might > not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate > items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this > stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an > accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make > sense??? > > Jenni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I agree. accomadations should be made for those who can't afford anything else. but, the stuff is going to be free right? I think the re-donation idea is a good one. Sometimes when I shop at consignment stores, I wonder exactly how many different babies have already worn what I am buying, b/c usually when Kaitlin is finished wearing it, it still looks just as good as it did when I got it. Did that make sense? I think we CAN do this! we might have to work the kinks out as they happen, but that's to be expected! Alright, anyone know how to get this off the ground???? Freeman In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, jcypher@... writes: > I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation > would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might > not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate > items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this > stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an > accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make > sense??? > > Jenni > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I don't think it would get ugly, I was just wondering. I am just so used to the standard ebay bidding format! Who would keep track of the points? Basically the freecycle group is a yahoo group. Do we just start another group with yahoo, kind of like the clubfoot pics is another group with another purpose, but still related to this one? and just send each other checks for shipping costs? Freeman In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, susan.shook@... writes: > I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They > can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore > they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the > world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in > need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first > person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, > we are all friends here!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I don't think it would get ugly, I was just wondering. I am just so used to the standard ebay bidding format! Who would keep track of the points? Basically the freecycle group is a yahoo group. Do we just start another group with yahoo, kind of like the clubfoot pics is another group with another purpose, but still related to this one? and just send each other checks for shipping costs? Freeman In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, susan.shook@... writes: > I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They > can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore > they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the > world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in > need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first > person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, > we are all friends here!! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make sense??? Jenni mjz28ss@... wrote: >I agree, the idea is an excellent one. I have a good bit of stuff that works >great with the DBB and I hate to just auction it on ebay b/c I don't feel >like anyone on there would truely appreciate the functionability of the clothes >like those with a DBB would. :-) > >The point system is also an excellent idea, but what happens if several >people want the same items? I mean, how would we decide who gets what? Or if >someone had a newer baby and had not accrued any points yet, but wanted something. > would we do negative points for those people? I think it is a GREAT idea >and would be a huge asset to this web group, kind of like an online consignement >store for clubfoot babies! > >I would offer to help technically, but I am computer illiterate when it comes >to stuff like web design and such. > > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 7:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, >susan.shook@... writes: > > > >>The 'swap' idea is a good one. But that would be somewhat a lot of work. >>Someone would have to keep an on-line inventory of everyhting. Similar to >>listing on ebay but pictures wouldn't be necessary. >> >>A good idea too would be to have a point system. Technically everything >>is free except S&H, but you must contribute in order to receive. For >>example, a pajama outfit can be worth 3 points. So if I contribute a >>pajama outfit , I have 3 points to get something else. Shoes and bar can >>be 20 points, etc., etc. >> >> >>Okay, who is up for the challenge? >> >> >> >> Shook >>Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor >>Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. >>2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 >>Vienna, VA 22182 >> x374 >> x374 >> fax >> >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, we are all friends here!! Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, we are all friends here!! Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Well, I would imagine that the first thing to do would be to set up a database of what is available and who has the items and an estimate perhaps of how much S& H would be for each item since that is all that would be charged for the item right. Then, with the item on the database, the " seller's " email address could be listed and contact could take place off list. Then, when an item is gone, you could just email the list manager and they could remove the item from the available list. I would suggest that perhaps items like clothing be offered in a box lot by size or something so that we are not listing individual pieces of clothing which could be pretty extensive after a while. Items like snowsuits or sleep sacks, that are specialized, could be offered separately. Just a suggestion. I would be willing to compile the list. What other ways would be godd for managing such a thing? Time to brainstorm I guess. Jenni mjz28ss@... wrote: >I agree. accomadations should be made for those who can't afford anything >else. but, the stuff is going to be free right? I think the re-donation idea is >a good one. Sometimes when I shop at consignment stores, I wonder exactly >how many different babies have already worn what I am buying, b/c usually when >Kaitlin is finished wearing it, it still looks just as good as it did when I >got it. Did that make sense? > >I think we CAN do this! we might have to work the kinks out as they happen, >but that's to be expected! > >Alright, anyone know how to get this off the ground???? > > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, >jcypher@... writes: > > > >>I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation >>would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might >>not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate >>items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this >>stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an >>accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make >>sense??? >> >>Jenni >> >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Well, I would imagine that the first thing to do would be to set up a database of what is available and who has the items and an estimate perhaps of how much S& H would be for each item since that is all that would be charged for the item right. Then, with the item on the database, the " seller's " email address could be listed and contact could take place off list. Then, when an item is gone, you could just email the list manager and they could remove the item from the available list. I would suggest that perhaps items like clothing be offered in a box lot by size or something so that we are not listing individual pieces of clothing which could be pretty extensive after a while. Items like snowsuits or sleep sacks, that are specialized, could be offered separately. Just a suggestion. I would be willing to compile the list. What other ways would be godd for managing such a thing? Time to brainstorm I guess. Jenni mjz28ss@... wrote: >I agree. accomadations should be made for those who can't afford anything >else. but, the stuff is going to be free right? I think the re-donation idea is >a good one. Sometimes when I shop at consignment stores, I wonder exactly >how many different babies have already worn what I am buying, b/c usually when >Kaitlin is finished wearing it, it still looks just as good as it did when I >got it. Did that make sense? > >I think we CAN do this! we might have to work the kinks out as they happen, >but that's to be expected! > >Alright, anyone know how to get this off the ground???? > > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, >jcypher@... writes: > > > >>I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation >>would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might >>not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate >>items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this >>stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an >>accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make >>sense??? >> >>Jenni >> >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I would also love to help in any way. We have extra shoes/bars, etc that Collin has out grown, etc. I would love to help others out, just to know its all going to good use. I will be more then happy to help in any way!!!! Michele Collin's story at http://www.geocities.com/chele323232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I would also love to help in any way. We have extra shoes/bars, etc that Collin has out grown, etc. I would love to help others out, just to know its all going to good use. I will be more then happy to help in any way!!!! Michele Collin's story at http://www.geocities.com/chele323232 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 We could assign point values by estimated dollar value of the item. For instance, if you are offering a snowsuit valued at $50, you could get 5 points. $25, 3 points or something like that. That way, you would not have to come up with a point value for each individual type of item. The one offering the items could just estimate their value and points can be assigned in that way. We could start another yahoo group for this purpose and then everyone would have a specific place to go. That way the database could be managed there. I would be willing to give this a shot if everyone wants to try it and see how it goes. Jenni mjz28ss@... wrote: >I don't think it would get ugly, I was just wondering. I am just so used to >the standard ebay bidding format! >Who would keep track of the points? Basically the freecycle group is a yahoo >group. Do we just start another group with yahoo, kind of like the clubfoot >pics is another group with another purpose, but still related to this one? >and just send each other checks for shipping costs? > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, >susan.shook@... writes: > > > >>I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They >>can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore >>they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the >>world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in >>need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first >>person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, >>we are all friends here!! >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 It might be a good idea to start and keep a database of items up for grabs. Someone would have to create the database and maintain it. Then people who have items could tell that person (or persons - two or more people could do this by sharing the file) what they have, what size and maybe a pic and then it would be added to the database. When someone needs something they put in the request and the database person contacts the people who have donated with the address of the person and they send the items to them. Otherwise, someone would have to have a place to store all these clothes and items and then sort through them for people when the time came to hand them out. And shipping would be doubled because you'd have to send them once to the storage/administrator person and then again to the recipient. I had suggested we do this with used shoes, so this could actually be a combination of the two. I can probably make the database, unless there's someone here who has real database experience. I can use access and probably even insert pictures. It will take a little time to set up and right now is not a good time to work on it (give me a few weeks!) but I'm willing to try. Anyone else out there know how to code Access really well? I missed the beginning of this thread, thinking the subject got changed in the middle and I just don't know where it is... but would people pay for shipping? I would hope so. I wonder if instead of a point system... or in addition to it... if there might just be an allotment for a parent per age/size. Like 2 or 3 newborn outfits/1 pr shoes & bar, then 2-3 outfits/sleepers in 6 or 9mo size, again 12 mo, 18, 24/2T, etc. Two pairs of shoes a year would be sufficient I'm sure. Could be just guidelines because there are going to be people who don't need to participate and people who will need a little more than others. And those in 23/7 or 16-18 will need a few more outfits than those who are in nights only (who will just need night clothes). Socks would be a big deal and would likely go in and out a lot. Bar covers would likely just have to be donated by handy mamas who can make more than one at a time and send them to people who need them. Also, some new items that are useful might have to be made. I am not a quilter, but the little quilt that ties together and cinches up at the bottom was a lifesaver for us in the 7-14 mo range so she didn't get tangled in the covers. Something like that that someone would make and *sell* for a minimal cost or whatever they felt it was worth could also be something to add to the database. The database can be shared with people through the files section I'm pretty sure. Or at least the portion with the sizes and pictures so they can look through. This, yet again is going to take time and expertise but I think I can do it. Some things would be for sale, and some would be free. The sale items would be to cover the costs of the person who made them. Since it's not a NP I don't think funds could be used to supplement any of the administrative costs right? IF... we could tie this to 's foundation and she's got all the stuff set up (for not for profit, etc.) it might be a good idea. Additionally, if this were to work out we'd want to get more people involved in donating and receiving than just us online. We'd want to contact every doc who does anything close to the method to ask them to give the information to parents. And it's going to take some time and dedication, and perhaps even money (for printing, and other costs, etc.) With every newborn set that goes out we'd totally have to send a printout of the information in the files section and any tips lol. Am I nuts or what? Maybe someone can silk screen a bunch of onesies with a picture of Dr. Ponseti to sell to cover costs! hummm.... Kori At 08:11 AM 12/22/2004, you wrote: >I don't think it would get ugly, I was just wondering. I am just so used to >the standard ebay bidding format! >Who would keep track of the points? Basically the freecycle group is a yahoo >group. Do we just start another group with yahoo, kind of like the clubfoot >pics is another group with another purpose, but still related to this one? >and just send each other checks for shipping costs? > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, >susan.shook@... writes: > > > I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They > > can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore > > they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the > > world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in > > need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first > > person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, > > we are all friends here!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 hahaha!!! How slow am I?? At 08:18 AM 12/22/2004, you wrote: >Well, I would imagine that the first thing to do would be to set up a >database of what is available and who has the items and an estimate >perhaps of how much S& H would be for each item since that is all that >would be charged for the item right. Then, with the item on the >database, the " seller's " email address could be listed and contact could >take place off list. Then, when an item is gone, you could just email >the list manager and they could remove the item from the available >list. I would suggest that perhaps items like clothing be offered in a >box lot by size or something so that we are not listing individual >pieces of clothing which could be pretty extensive after a while. Items >like snowsuits or sleep sacks, that are specialized, could be offered >separately. Just a suggestion. I would be willing to compile the >list. What other ways would be godd for managing such a thing? Time to >brainstorm I guess. > >Jenni >mjz28ss@... wrote: > > >I agree. accomadations should be made for those who can't afford anything > >else. but, the stuff is going to be free right? I think the re-donation > idea is > >a good one. Sometimes when I shop at consignment stores, I wonder exactly > >how many different babies have already worn what I am buying, b/c > usually when > >Kaitlin is finished wearing it, it still looks just as good as it did > when I > >got it. Did that make sense? > > > >I think we CAN do this! we might have to work the kinks out as they > happen, > >but that's to be expected! > > > >Alright, anyone know how to get this off the ground???? > > > > Freeman > > > > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:01:08 AM Pacific Standard Time, > >jcypher@... writes: > > > > > > > >>I agree that it is a great idea but I do feel that some accomodation > >>would need to be made for anyone who is desperately in need and might > >>not have things to donate to earn points. They could always re-donate > >>items or something but since we all recognize how expensive all of this > >>stuff can be, particularly without insurance, I would like to see an > >>accomodation for those that cannot afford anything else. Does that make > >>sense??? > >> > >>Jenni > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Just an idea to throw out there..... why don't we just do something similar to the freecycle sites.... everyone can list their own items and then make arrangements on their own with the person that is going to take it. I don't really understand the purpose of the " points " Because really does that really matter??? Why can't we just help pepole no questions asked..... You can make the site moderated and closed so that noone that dosen't have a reason to be there can't be. Just my 2cents..... > I agree, the idea is an excellent one. I have a good bit of stuff that works > great with the DBB and I hate to just auction it on ebay b/c I don't feel > like anyone on there would truely appreciate the functionability of the clothes > like those with a DBB would. :-) > > The point system is also an excellent idea, but what happens if several > people want the same items? I mean, how would we decide who gets what? Or if > someone had a newer baby and had not accrued any points yet, but wanted something. > would we do negative points for those people? I think it is a GREAT idea > and would be a huge asset to this web group, kind of like an online consignement > store for clubfoot babies! > > I would offer to help technically, but I am computer illiterate when it comes > to stuff like web design and such. > > Freeman > > > In a message dated 12/22/2004 7:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, > susan.shook@v... writes: > > > The 'swap' idea is a good one. But that would be somewhat a lot of work. > > Someone would have to keep an on-line inventory of everyhting. Similar to > > listing on ebay but pictures wouldn't be necessary. > > > > A good idea too would be to have a point system. Technically everything > > is free except S&H, but you must contribute in order to receive. For > > example, a pajama outfit can be worth 3 points. So if I contribute a > > pajama outfit , I have 3 points to get something else. Shoes and bar can > > be 20 points, etc., etc. > > > > > > Okay, who is up for the challenge? > > > > > > > > Shook > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 > > Vienna, VA 22182 > > x374 > > x374 > > fax > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 A system like this would be fine with me. I personally don't really feel the need to track points or anything. If someone needs it, then as far as I am concerned they should be able to have it. This certainly would make it all easier if it is done on a more informal basis. It would take a lot of work out of it. Jenni whaleykids wrote: >Just an idea to throw out there..... why don't we just do something >similar to the freecycle sites.... everyone can list their own >items and then make arrangements on their own with the person that >is going to take it. I don't really understand the purpose of >the " points " Because really does that really matter??? Why can't we >just help pepole no questions asked..... > You can make the site moderated and closed so that noone that >dosen't have a reason to be there can't be. > >Just my 2cents..... > > > > > > > > > > > >>I agree, the idea is an excellent one. I have a good bit of stuff >> >> >that works > > >>great with the DBB and I hate to just auction it on ebay b/c I >> >> >don't feel > > >>like anyone on there would truely appreciate the functionability >> >> >of the clothes > > >>like those with a DBB would. :-) >> >>The point system is also an excellent idea, but what happens if >> >> >several > > >>people want the same items? I mean, how would we decide who gets >> >> >what? Or if > > >>someone had a newer baby and had not accrued any points yet, but >> >> >wanted something. > > >> would we do negative points for those people? I think it is a >> >> >GREAT idea > > >>and would be a huge asset to this web group, kind of like an >> >> >online consignement > > >>store for clubfoot babies! >> >>I would offer to help technically, but I am computer illiterate >> >> >when it comes > > >>to stuff like web design and such. >> >> Freeman >> >> >>In a message dated 12/22/2004 7:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, >>susan.shook@v... writes: >> >> >> >>>The 'swap' idea is a good one. But that would be somewhat a lot >>> >>> >of work. > > >>>Someone would have to keep an on-line inventory of everyhting. >>> >>> >Similar to > > >>>listing on ebay but pictures wouldn't be necessary. >>> >>>A good idea too would be to have a point system. Technically >>> >>> >everything > > >>>is free except S&H, but you must contribute in order to >>> >>> >receive. For > > >>>example, a pajama outfit can be worth 3 points. So if I >>> >>> >contribute a > > >>>pajama outfit , I have 3 points to get something else. Shoes >>> >>> >and bar can > > >>>be 20 points, etc., etc. >>> >>> >>>Okay, who is up for the challenge? >>> >>> >>> >>> Shook >>>Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor >>>Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. >>>2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 >>>Vienna, VA 22182 >>> x374 >>> x374 >>> fax >>> >>> >>> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 The foundation can handle this. The shipping and handling can be covered by our donations so that no one has to pay. I would be happy to set this up. Please let me know. That is what we are here for! www.pediatric-orthopedic-foundation.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Well , Since I started this whole discussion, please let me know how to help get it off the ground. I can receive, store, ship or I can supervise some other system. Sally wrote: > The foundation can handle this. The shipping and handling can be covered by our donations so that no one has to pay. I would be happy to set this up. Please let me know. That is what we are here for! > > > www.pediatric-orthopedic-foundation.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 However you want to would be perfect. Let me figure out how we are going to get this started. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 As far as doing it like a freecycle list, I think it's a great idea. But it will not serve those who aren't online. Which are many. Since I know CF babies come through Shriners here in Portland at a rate of probably something like 5-10 a week and I have only met one person locally I know most parents aren't online. Additionally (I'm not trying to shoot this down really! I love freecycle - here in Portland we have and have had the largest freecycle list there is with over 12000 members) if we do it like freecycle, we can't call it freecycle without approval. Doing it like freecycle without the name could be ok but it'd get more interest if it was a freecycle list. If that's possible. It might draw people from the freecycle lists who have things that work with the DBB etc. Or not. Might not be something they want to let us do anyway. Regardless, being only online will still limit the participants a lot. Personally, I think it's best to have an administrator for this who can work with to fund and maintain it. That way more items could be offered to more people and grants/and or funding from the foundation would help a lot. Anyone here good with grant writing? ? How have you done this in the past? I have worked with a NP before, so I'm kind of familiar with these things. But in a omewhat limited fashion. I handled the membership and database and worked closely with the Executive Director but didn't really get into grant writing or a lot of the other administrative things so I'm clueless with a lot of this stuff. Kori At 09:50 AM 12/22/2004, you wrote: >However you want to would be perfect. Let me figure out how we are going >to get this started. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I agree, a new parent would be penalized when that's exactly who you'd be trying to help (mostly).....why not first come first serve? s. clubfoot swap idea I agree, the idea is an excellent one. I have a good bit of stuff that works great with the DBB and I hate to just auction it on ebay b/c I don't feel like anyone on there would truely appreciate the functionability of the clothes like those with a DBB would. :-) The point system is also an excellent idea, but what happens if several people want the same items? I mean, how would we decide who gets what? Or if someone had a newer baby and had not accrued any points yet, but wanted something. would we do negative points for those people? I think it is a GREAT idea and would be a huge asset to this web group, kind of like an online consignement store for clubfoot babies! I would offer to help technically, but I am computer illiterate when it comes to stuff like web design and such. Freeman In a message dated 12/22/2004 7:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, susan.shook@... writes: > The 'swap' idea is a good one. But that would be somewhat a lot of work. > Someone would have to keep an on-line inventory of everyhting. Similar to > listing on ebay but pictures wouldn't be necessary. > > A good idea too would be to have a point system. Technically everything > is free except S&H, but you must contribute in order to receive. For > example, a pajama outfit can be worth 3 points. So if I contribute a > pajama outfit , I have 3 points to get something else. Shoes and bar can > be 20 points, etc., etc. > > > Okay, who is up for the challenge? > > > > Shook > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 > Vienna, VA 22182 > x374 > x374 > fax > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Yes, I agree about not bothering with the points. If someone needs something, lets help them. My guess is that there will be more donations than requests... whaleykids whaleykids@...> wrote: Just an idea to throw out there..... why don't we just do something similar to the freecycle sites.... everyone can list their own items and then make arrangements on their own with the person that is going to take it. I don't really understand the purpose of the " points " Because really does that really matter??? Why can't we just help pepole no questions asked..... You can make the site moderated and closed so that noone that dosen't have a reason to be there can't be. Just my 2cents..... > I agree, the idea is an excellent one. I have a good bit of stuff that works > great with the DBB and I hate to just auction it on ebay b/c I don't feel > like anyone on there would truely appreciate the functionability of the clothes > like those with a DBB would. :-) > > The point system is also an excellent idea, but what happens if several > people want the same items? I mean, how would we decide who gets what? Or if > someone had a newer baby and had not accrued any points yet, but wanted something. > would we do negative points for those people? I think it is a GREAT idea > and would be a huge asset to this web group, kind of like an online consignement > store for clubfoot babies! > > I would offer to help technically, but I am computer illiterate when it comes > to stuff like web design and such. > > Freeman > > > In a message dated 12/22/2004 7:21:06 AM Pacific Standard Time, > susan.shook@v... writes: > > > The 'swap' idea is a good one. But that would be somewhat a lot of work. > > Someone would have to keep an on-line inventory of everyhting. Similar to > > listing on ebay but pictures wouldn't be necessary. > > > > A good idea too would be to have a point system. Technically everything > > is free except S&H, but you must contribute in order to receive. For > > example, a pajama outfit can be worth 3 points. So if I contribute a > > pajama outfit , I have 3 points to get something else. Shoes and bar can > > be 20 points, etc., etc. > > > > > > Okay, who is up for the challenge? > > > > > > > > Shook > > Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor > > Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. > > 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 > > Vienna, VA 22182 > > x374 > > x374 > > fax > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 In my opinion you all are over-thinking this thing. Another yahoo group I belong to regarding home schooling just began a swap program. One day a week members are allowed to post what they have for sale or what they want to buy. On that day and ONLY that day, you post what you have for sale OR what you need to purchase, and it's up to the other members to a) read the want-ads, and contact you personally off the group to arrange the payment and shipping. It's first come, first serve. No list managers, no separate site, no data base, no double-shipping - just list it once a week for others to view and take it off the group discussion after that. Who wants to keep records of points earned or points spent? Who is to say our score-keeper is going to be fair? We would hope so, but what happens when someone calls Foul? Who is going to watch the watch dog? Why do we need a watch dog? What about parents with nothing to give away prior to needing some thing? My idea of a " ten point " pair of jeans might be some one else's idea of a two point pair of jeans - it could get ugly, friends or not and it's naive to think it wouldn't. My concern with over complicating it, and my concern with putting it up on a whole different web site is that new parents/members to this group will not be aware of it, or it'll be a hassle to get to it; or since they are " new " they may not feel entitled to use the system if they have not acquired the necessary points; the person managing the on-line list is liable to get busy, get sick, etc., and not maintain the list in which case it becomes total chaos. One little typo could cause chaos when it should read 3 points and actually reads 7 or something else like that. You all do what you want - you're the ones wanting to manage it and frankly I really don't have anything to contribute or anything I desperately need to acquire - but my vote would be once a week list it and if anyone wants it they can contact you (the person with the item) privately. First come, first serve, short sweet and to the point with out complicating our clubfoot site. OK I'll shut up now, just thought I'd throw my two cents worth in to the soup. s. Re: clubfoot swap idea It might be a good idea to start and keep a database of items up for grabs. Someone would have to create the database and maintain it. Then people who have items could tell that person (or persons - two or more people could do this by sharing the file) what they have, what size and maybe a pic and then it would be added to the database. When someone needs something they put in the request and the database person contacts the people who have donated with the address of the person and they send the items to them. Otherwise, someone would have to have a place to store all these clothes and items and then sort through them for people when the time came to hand them out. And shipping would be doubled because you'd have to send them once to the storage/administrator person and then again to the recipient. I had suggested we do this with used shoes, so this could actually be a combination of the two. I can probably make the database, unless there's someone here who has real database experience. I can use access and probably even insert pictures. It will take a little time to set up and right now is not a good time to work on it (give me a few weeks!) but I'm willing to try. Anyone else out there know how to code Access really well? I missed the beginning of this thread, thinking the subject got changed in the middle and I just don't know where it is... but would people pay for shipping? I would hope so. I wonder if instead of a point system... or in addition to it... if there might just be an allotment for a parent per age/size. Like 2 or 3 newborn outfits/1 pr shoes & bar, then 2-3 outfits/sleepers in 6 or 9mo size, again 12 mo, 18, 24/2T, etc. Two pairs of shoes a year would be sufficient I'm sure. Could be just guidelines because there are going to be people who don't need to participate and people who will need a little more than others. And those in 23/7 or 16-18 will need a few more outfits than those who are in nights only (who will just need night clothes). Socks would be a big deal and would likely go in and out a lot. Bar covers would likely just have to be donated by handy mamas who can make more than one at a time and send them to people who need them. Also, some new items that are useful might have to be made. I am not a quilter, but the little quilt that ties together and cinches up at the bottom was a lifesaver for us in the 7-14 mo range so she didn't get tangled in the covers. Something like that that someone would make and *sell* for a minimal cost or whatever they felt it was worth could also be something to add to the database. The database can be shared with people through the files section I'm pretty sure. Or at least the portion with the sizes and pictures so they can look through. This, yet again is going to take time and expertise but I think I can do it. Some things would be for sale, and some would be free. The sale items would be to cover the costs of the person who made them. Since it's not a NP I don't think funds could be used to supplement any of the administrative costs right? IF... we could tie this to 's foundation and she's got all the stuff set up (for not for profit, etc.) it might be a good idea. Additionally, if this were to work out we'd want to get more people involved in donating and receiving than just us online. We'd want to contact every doc who does anything close to the method to ask them to give the information to parents. And it's going to take some time and dedication, and perhaps even money (for printing, and other costs, etc.) With every newborn set that goes out we'd totally have to send a printout of the information in the files section and any tips lol. Am I nuts or what? Maybe someone can silk screen a bunch of onesies with a picture of Dr. Ponseti to sell to cover costs! hummm.... Kori At 08:11 AM 12/22/2004, you wrote: >I don't think it would get ugly, I was just wondering. I am just so used to >the standard ebay bidding format! >Who would keep track of the points? Basically the freecycle group is a yahoo >group. Do we just start another group with yahoo, kind of like the clubfoot >pics is another group with another purpose, but still related to this one? >and just send each other checks for shipping costs? > Freeman > > >In a message dated 12/22/2004 8:03:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, >susan.shook@... writes: > > > I thought of the newbies too, after I sent the post about the points. They > > can have negative points, and then once they don't need the items anymore > > they can contribute back. And even if they don't, it isn't the end of the > > world. Afterall we aren't doing this for money, it is to help others in > > need. I think we could do a first-come, first-serve basis. The first > > person to want it, should get it. I can't imagine it ever getting ugly, > > we are all friends here!! > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 I offered to do it through the Foundation, not as a point, but as a non-profit organization, doing what is should do and what it's mission is. I will step away if that is what you all want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2004 Report Share Posted December 22, 2004 Personally , I think doing it through the foundation would really be the best thing especially since that is what it is intended to do. Then, it could reach more people that may be in need and would always be available. I would not be interested in doing the one day only thing because that is not always convenient for everyone. I will be glad to help you get started what I can. Jenni wrote: >I offered to do it through the Foundation, not as a point, but as a non-profit organization, doing what is should do and what it's mission is. I will step away if that is what you all want. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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