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I have always been told 20 pounds AND 1 year of age but some doctors might

not hold to that. I'm a stickler for those kinds of things though. :)

Bess

mom to Elena (3/31/00) and Audrey (9/27/03), bcf, dbb 12 hrs/day

At 09:57 AM 1/12/2005, you wrote:

>Well now that we are talking about car seats I have a question. When

>can rear facing children go to forward facing? I thought it was

>20lbs but I am not sure. I too will be looking for a new car seat

>this weekend for and you have all giving me great tips!

> and

>BL CF 12/16/03

>(3 more days of casts left!!)

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According to what I've been told by our pediatrician,

the child is okay to sit forward after he or she holds

their head upright steady and continuously. As far as

weight goes it all depends on the head support thing.

Bascially the rear facing seating is to avoid whiplash

and a child that no longer needs it's head supported

is stronger against this potential problem. Ask your

pediatrician for the best advice. You can call them

for this rather than wait for an appointment.

--- Number23 number23@...> wrote:

> The law abotu seats differes from state to state.

> Call your Highway Patrol office for the laws. Here

> it's 20 pounds AND one year old. Meanwhile my

> little rabbit continues to sit backwards. He's been

> at 19 pounds for months.

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> Well now that we are talking about car seats I have

> a question. When

> can rear facing children go to forward facing? I

> thought it was

> 20lbs but I am not sure. I too will be looking for a

> new car seat

> this weekend for and you have all giving me

> great tips!

> and

> BL CF 12/16/03

> (3 more days of casts left!!)

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What exactly is the benefit of turning a child forward facing? Why would

anyone want to do this before it's absolutely necessary? Head and neck

strength or not? My children, all three, have held their heads up steady

and continuously before they were 2 months old. All of them held their

heads up actually by 4w, starting somewhere around 2. Now, by using this

rule I could turn a child forward facing at 2-3 mo's? No way. I'm pretty

sure all the states have 20# AND one year rules but if you get the right

seat you can leave them rear facing till they're simply too big to be

comfortable rear facing. Darbi, my CF baby rear faced till somewhere

around 18-19 mo's. The other two were 16 and 15mo's rear facing (boys,

taller I think). The way I see it, if they don't know they can face

forward and the parent decides this is the way it's going to be they're

happy that way till the time is right to switch.

I simply don't understand the push to move children to a less safe position

although almost every parent I've ever met just can't wait to make some

kind of less safe change. Whether it be forward facing or to a booster

with a shoulder harness or no seat at all... whatever. This, I just can't

understand. If I have a chance to place a child in the safest

seat/position I will. Moving to boosters was not something I looked

forward to, so much that I bought a 5 point to 80 pounds for my oldest

rather than to move to a booster and shoulder strap. My 4 year old uses

that seat now and I still am wary of the 6 year old being so much less

restrained in a booster however because of room across the back seat for 3

children we have had to do one child in a booster.

I too am anal about car seat safety. Irks me to no end to see a child too

large for infant seats, chest clips too low (allowing shoulders and

subsequently the whole body to be launched out of the straps), and loose

straps. Worse yet... chest clips not done up at all. I just want to

throttle some people! I've spent money we did not have to have the best

seats for my children and I'm happy to have done so. Never been in an

accident (well I did get bumped a few months ago but that's nothing) so

I've not had to test them out but I hope I never do. If I do, I'm darn

sure the seats are rock solid and the straps are tight and they'll have the

best chance at avoiding injury they can have. It's the least I can do for

them. And they don't complain either. They know they're required to be

safe and that's all there is to it.

I also can't say enough for tethers. It really makes a difference in

getting the seat tight and not moving. Most US seats have tethers now but

I don't think they're supposed to be used rear facing. Britax has always

had a rear facing tether and I love it.

OK - off my carseat soapbox... ya'll haven't seen this side of me yet

huh? I'm actually famous amongst my mama friends for this stuff lol!

Kori

At 02:03 PM 1/12/2005, you wrote:

>According to what I've been told by our pediatrician,

>the child is okay to sit forward after he or she holds

>their head upright steady and continuously. As far as

>weight goes it all depends on the head support thing.

>Bascially the rear facing seating is to avoid whiplash

>and a child that no longer needs it's head supported

>is stronger against this potential problem. Ask your

>pediatrician for the best advice. You can call them

>for this rather than wait for an appointment.

>

>

>

>--- Number23 number23@...> wrote:

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> > The law abotu seats differes from state to state.

> > Call your Highway Patrol office for the laws. Here

> > it's 20 pounds AND one year old. Meanwhile my

> > little rabbit continues to sit backwards. He's been

> > at 19 pounds for months.

> > s.

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> > Re: car seats

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> > Well now that we are talking about car seats I have

> > a question. When

> > can rear facing children go to forward facing? I

> > thought it was

> > 20lbs but I am not sure. I too will be looking for a

> > new car seat

> > this weekend for and you have all giving me

> > great tips!

> > and

> > BL CF 12/16/03

> > (3 more days of casts left!!)

> >

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Well, Kori, this is something we definitely have in common! I am somewhat of a

fanatic about car seat safety too. All my Mommy friends know better than to ask

me about car seat issues, they'll get a 20 minute discourse!

I couldn't agree more about the rear facing/forward facing issue. I actually

got into quite a heated argument once with someone who insisted that her 10

month old needed to be turned forward facing because he was exceptionally tall

and his feet were touching the seat of the car. She felt sure that if they were

to have an accident that he would end up with broken legs and he was soooooo

uncomfortable. She just refused to see that if he were forward facing in an

accident that he may end up paralyzed or even dead because he was just not old

enough to be forward facing. It actually isn't about neck control at all. A

lot of kids have very good neck control and should still not be forward facing.

It's about bone ossification. The bones of a child under a year old are not

ossified and simply cannot hold up to the forward forces of a car crash. They

will shatter resulting in a paralyzed or dead child.

Anyway, I was not so educated when my 8 year old was little. The law in our

state at the time was only over 20 lbs. I thought that was good enough and the

second he was 20 lbs. turned him forward facing. We didn't have the internet at

the time and I knew no better. Thankfully, we never had an accident so he was

not injured.

With Livie, I know better. She is almost 3 and a half years old and we just

turned her forward facing about six months ago.

In regards to boosters... the law just recently changed in our state that all

kids under 80 lbs. need to be in a booster. My son who turned 8 in August was

in a booster all the way through 85 lbs. We have finally let him stop using the

booster because he got tall enough that the seat belt was not hitting his

shoulder appropriately in the booster and he was safer being out of it. You

should have heard the complaints around here of people who had to go out and buy

boosters for there 4-6 year olds when the law changed! Sheesh!!

Anyway, longwinded just to say I agree!!

Jen & Livie

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> > Well now that we are talking about car seats I have

> > a question. When

> > can rear facing children go to forward facing? I

> > thought it was

> > 20lbs but I am not sure. I too will be looking for a

> > new car seat

> > this weekend for and you have all giving me

> > great tips!

> > and

> > BL CF 12/16/03

> > (3 more days of casts left!!)

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Oh ya...... or my favorite.....a person driving their car with their baby on

their lap! Rrrgghhhhh! A while back I worked at a convienience store with a

drive-through window I served out of. I told my dh after that I think we're the

only parents in the county who use car seats and/or seat belts on our kids.

s.

if I see a small baby

forward facing, or WORSE STILL a baby not in a car seat it makes me

CRAZY!!!

, mommy of:

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Oh ya...... or my favorite.....a person driving their car with their baby on

their lap! Rrrgghhhhh! A while back I worked at a convienience store with a

drive-through window I served out of. I told my dh after that I think we're the

only parents in the county who use car seats and/or seat belts on our kids.

s.

if I see a small baby

forward facing, or WORSE STILL a baby not in a car seat it makes me

CRAZY!!!

, mommy of:

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