Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I am curious about the insulin discussion. My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and his sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his insulin went higher. I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia. makes no sense to me... When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing insulin making his sugars drop too low? I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars bottom out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then hypoglycemia wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the end result? sugars confuse me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Barbara, thanks for the info. the docs told me to feed him alot of sandwiches. with bread a meat and a slice of cheese. they said always a sandwich at bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Barbara, thanks for the info. the docs told me to feed him alot of sandwiches. with bread a meat and a slice of cheese. they said always a sandwich at bedtime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 Hyperinsulemia results in reactive hypoglycemia, so the two are quite compatible and actually represent cause and effect. That's what Dr. Haas told me. It's like the " insulin shock " that diabetics experience if they get an overdose of insulin. Your son's results sound similar to mine, in that both ends of the glucose curve are off. Both too high and too low, though I don't usually go higher than 250 and it drops lower to around 30. Sometimes I spill glucose in urine. My endocrinologist said my insulin levels (650+) were high enough to represent some insulin resistance. I do not have diabetes, but have an increased risk for developing diabetes. Since I need carbs for fuel, Dr. Haas suggested using raw cornstarch, as it is very slowly absorbed over several hours and provides the best even source of energy from carbs. However, my gut cannot tolerate raw cornstarch so I can't use it. But might be worth trying in your son if you haven't already. That or any good form of complex carbs-foods with more fiber are absorbed slower. Or make sure he eats some fats or protein with carbs to help slow absorption. I was also told to eat SLOWLY---in the style of a leisurely French restaurant. The faster you eat, the bigger the spurt of insulin. I know kids are prone to gobble their food, but feeling better can be a powerful motivator too. Hope this helps. Barbara _____ From: MitomomX3@... Sent: Monday, January 17, 2005 10:25 AM To: Subject: Re: Insulin I am curious about the insulin discussion. My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and his sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his insulin went higher. I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia. makes no sense to me... When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing insulin making his sugars drop too low? I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars bottom out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then hypoglycemia wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the end result? sugars confuse me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2005 Report Share Posted January 17, 2005 I have both reactive hypoglycemia (too much insulin after eating big meals) and glucose intolerance (sugars are okay fasting, go up to 180 after 1 hour, then go back down for other readings), so it sounds like a similar thing. I'd be interested to get my insulin tested, no one's offered even though I have these diagnoses, and have an increased chance of full- blown diabetes. Take care, RH > I am curious about the insulin discussion. > My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and his > sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his insulin > went higher. > I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed with > reactive hypoglycemia. > makes no sense to me... > When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 > ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing > insulin making his sugars drop too low? > I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes > into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars bottom > out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? > but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then hypoglycemia > wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the end > result? > sugars confuse me..... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Interesting about eating slower--my son is not diabetic but I am and also have a hard time adjusting my insulin since my body reacts differently than " normal " diabetics. Back to the eating slowly. Last night I made rice and gravy when I got home from work and it was about 8 pm. My son was very hungary as he had not snacked during the day which he does normally. Anyway, he dished himself up a plateful and was shoveling it in with a spoon pretty fast. I kept telling him to slow down but he wanted to get back to watching his tv show. Well, about an hour later he said his stomach hurt and at 10:30 could not get to sleep because his stomach still hurt. I tried to tell him it was because he ate too fast, and also he had not taken his qgel for the past 2 days and he has digestive problems. But, of course I still need to remind him every day about taking his meds and not eating too fast--you would think he would have learned by now--he is 12 and started having problems when he was around 8. Janet Sample Re: Insulin I am curious about the insulin discussion. My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and his sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his insulin went higher. I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed with reactive hypoglycemia. makes no sense to me... When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing insulin making his sugars drop too low? I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars bottom out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then hypoglycemia wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the end result? sugars confuse me..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 > I tried to tell him it was because he ate too fast, and also he had > not taken his qgel for the past 2 days and he has digestive > problems. But, of course I still need to remind him every day > about taking his meds and not eating too fast--you would think he > would have learned by now--he is 12 and started having problems > when he was around 8. I still forget to take my medications, and I'm a bit older than 12 I bought a fancy watch that can list the names of your meds and what time to take them. I loaned it to my uncle, via my dad, and now that my uncle passed, I asked for it back. Turns out my dad never gave it to my uncle, and has no idea where it is. I used to have a watch that had 5 alarms to take Mestinon, which I had to take every 3 hours. Take care, RH > > Janet Sample > Re: Insulin > > > > I am curious about the insulin discussion. > My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and > his > sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his > insulin > went higher. > I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed > with > reactive hypoglycemia. > makes no sense to me... > When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 > > ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing > insulin making his sugars drop too low? > I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes > into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars > bottom > out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? > but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then > hypoglycemia > wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the > end > result? > sugars confuse me..... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Janet What worked for me when my kids were about that age is to make up one of the 7 day (4 compartments per day) each week. They set out on the table. I let them be as responsible as possible, but it was easy for me to glance at it and remind them if necessary. I'm not always sure if I have taken a particular dose, so use the same thing and keep them in view of where I sit at my computer. This helps to remind me and it is easy to check if they have been taken. laurie > > Reply-To: > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 19:34:34 -0600 > To: > > Subject: Re: Insulin > > Interesting about eating slower--my son is not diabetic but I am and also have > a hard time adjusting my insulin since my body reacts differently than > " normal " diabetics. > > Back to the eating slowly. Last night I made rice and gravy when I got home > from work and it was about 8 pm. My son was very hungary as he had not > snacked during the day which he does normally. Anyway, he dished himself up a > plateful and was shoveling it in with a spoon pretty fast. I kept telling him > to slow down but he wanted to get back to watching his tv show. Well, about > an hour later he said his stomach hurt and at 10:30 could not get to sleep > because his stomach still hurt. > > I tried to tell him it was because he ate too fast, and also he had not taken > his qgel for the past 2 days and he has digestive problems. But, of course I > still need to remind him every day about taking his meds and not eating too > fast--you would think he would have learned by now--he is 12 and started > having problems when he was around 8. > > Janet Sample > Re: Insulin > > > > I am curious about the insulin discussion. > My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and > his > sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his > insulin > went higher. > I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed > with > reactive hypoglycemia. > makes no sense to me... > When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 > > ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing > insulin making his sugars drop too low? > I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes > into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars > bottom > out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? > but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then > hypoglycemia > wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the > end > result? > sugars confuse me..... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 I have to admit I do not take the qgel and carnitor regularly either until I feel symptoms coming on such as last night and tonight getting very tired very fast or having signs of constipation. Janet Re: Insulin > > > > I am curious about the insulin discussion. > My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and > his > sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his > insulin > went higher. > I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed > with > reactive hypoglycemia. > makes no sense to me... > When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 > > ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing > insulin making his sugars drop too low? > I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes > into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars > bottom > out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? > but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then > hypoglycemia > wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the > end > result? > sugars confuse me..... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2005 Report Share Posted January 18, 2005 Thanks Laurie, I was doing that for a while but got out of the habit. I do keep the bottles on the counter but am usually too much of a hurry in the morning. Janet Re: Insulin > > > > I am curious about the insulin discussion. > My son had the GTT and his insulin went high when he drank the sugar and > his > sugars went high then an hour later his sugars dropped to 42 but his > insulin > went higher. > I thought one of the doics said he had hyperinsulemia but was diagnosed > with > reactive hypoglycemia. > makes no sense to me... > When I check his blood sugar at home he will go high after a meal ( 200-300 > > ) but then drop low..I assume at these times he is probally over producing > insulin making his sugars drop too low? > I am guessing but when he eats his blood sugars go high so his body goes > into overdrive producing insulin so he makes too much so then his sugars > bottom > out and he is hypoglycemic, do you think that is right? > but if he first has high blood sugar, then hyperinsulemia, then > hypoglycemia > wouldnt it be more than jsut hypoglycemia or do they diagnose you on the > end > result? > sugars confuse me..... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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