Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's because he was in casts for 8 months. Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non-ponseti one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 , If your original ped ortho has been talking about surgery, he may not be really receptive to your asking him about the Ponseti method. Over the past 5 years of watching parents experiences on the internet, almost all of us have asked our original non-ponseti method doctors about what they thought about the Ponseti method. I don't remember too many (if any) where the doctor instantly accepted the idea, let alone knew how to go about doing it. But now as probably the majority of doctors have at least begun to try to implement some if not all Ponseti method related approaches into their treatment, your doctor should at least understand that the Ponseti method has fast become the mainstream initial method of treatment. Many of us have had to leave our original doctors to go find someone committed to the Ponseti method. That is not easy to do. But in the future when your original doctor tells you that he has finally switched over to the Ponseti method you will feel glad that you did it when your child was still young enough for it to work. and (3-17-99) http://www.vh.org/pediatric/patient/orthopaedics/clubfeet/egbert.html > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 My personal opinion, skip the Orthopedic Surgeon and wait until the 18th to see the Ponseti doc. Shook Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. 2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 Vienna, VA 22182 x374 x374 fax Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 That is what I did. I made the decision to switch and just started seeing the new Ponseti Doctor and never looked back. I would have done the same thing if I decided to switch for any other reason as well. Jenni susan.shook@... wrote: >My personal opinion, skip the Orthopedic Surgeon and wait until the 18th >to see the Ponseti doc. > > > > > > > Shook >Retail Operations Manager/Baking Instructor >Vie de France Yamazaki, Inc. >2070 Chain Bridge Rd. Suite 500 >Vienna, VA 22182 > x374 > x374 > fax > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Uh... I didn't. I left his office as fast as I could and headed straight for Iowa. If they are set on surgery and not already practicing the Ponseti Method you are not likely to sway them to treat your child that way and in fact you wouldn't want them to because they aren't trained. Chris Seeing Orthopedic Surgeon tomorrow... need advice We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's because he was in casts for 8 months. Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non-ponseti one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I know you are very anxious to get him into see someone, but I would suggest skipping the surgeon and wait for your appt on the 18th. Maybe you can call the dr. you have the appt with on the 18th and see if they have had any cancelations, or ask them to put you on a list in case they do have one. Let us know how it goes! Louisa 6-27-99 Zoe 2-22-04 RCF FAB 16/7 > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 I know you are very anxious to get him into see someone, but I would suggest skipping the surgeon and wait for your appt on the 18th. Maybe you can call the dr. you have the appt with on the 18th and see if they have had any cancelations, or ask them to put you on a list in case they do have one. Let us know how it goes! Louisa 6-27-99 Zoe 2-22-04 RCF FAB 16/7 > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 by all means do not let them do surgery. i know what you mean about talking to the non-ponseti dr. i had to do that myself but you know what? He is a big boy and he can handle it. He should want the best treatment for just like you do. Logan has been out of cast for about a week now and i have been doing scretches to keep the foot a little loose until we get up to Iowa next week. It took us a long time to get to where we are now and the journey is not over yet but i feel so much better now that we are finally going to Iowa. Good Luck. a Logan 07/12/2004 johnsmommy7 jmartin017@...> wrote: We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's because he was in casts for 8 months. Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non-ponseti one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. Any advice is greatly appreciated! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 , I would simply tell the Dr. that while you appreciate his advice, you feel surgery is a radical choice at this time and would like a second opinion. It's not your problem if he doesn't accept that, your responsibility is to your child not to making sure the doctor doesn't get his ego in a bunch. don't burn bridges, but you are entitled to a second opinion and surgery for clubfoot is very radical. How long has been in casts? , my son, severe atypical bl cf is 15 months and has been out of casts a total of 3 months of his life. He has just figured out how to pull himself up, but because he never developed his leg muscles, he has to build them up. He is not walking yet, and can hardly pull up to standing completely with feet flat on floor. We are currently doing excercise with our physical therapist to fix this. He has simply been in the casts so long that he has no leg muscles. His feet are still tight and they are very uncomfortable for him to stand on. I will be praying for you with the bloodwork. Has your doctor suggested physical therapy? Lord bless you, > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non-ponseti > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > , We were scheduled for surgery with our non-Ponseti doctor. Three days before the surgery I called the office and explained to the secretary that we wanted to try a non-surgical Ponseti procedure before we decided to do the surgery. They were very understanding and cancelled the surgery for me. and bilateral clubfoot 11/10/03 dbb 23/7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well I talked to him today and he believes that needs more castings. He says because his muscles are not developed his feet are not staying in position. I am going to the Ponseti doctor on the 18th and I am not going to put john is casts until I see the doctor. We do see a physiotherapist once a week to help with 's muscles and to get him moving. (my back is killing me from lugging him around since he weighs 28 pounds!) LOL. I guess I just need to patient! What has your ortho said about the muscles? > > > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Well I talked to him today and he believes that needs more castings. He says because his muscles are not developed his feet are not staying in position. I am going to the Ponseti doctor on the 18th and I am not going to put john is casts until I see the doctor. We do see a physiotherapist once a week to help with 's muscles and to get him moving. (my back is killing me from lugging him around since he weighs 28 pounds!) LOL. I guess I just need to patient! What has your ortho said about the muscles? > > > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months old > > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They are > > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking it's > > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- ponseti > > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on the > > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet corrected. > > > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 did you tell him you're seeing the other doc? good move though, better no cast than a non-effective or harmful one. Kori At 01:19 PM 1/6/2005, you wrote: >Well I talked to him today and he believes that needs more >castings. He says because his muscles are not developed his feet >are not staying in position. >I am going to the Ponseti doctor on the 18th and I am not going to >put john is casts until I see the doctor. >We do see a physiotherapist once a week to help with 's muscles >and to get him moving. (my back is killing me from lugging him >around since he weighs 28 pounds!) LOL. > >I guess I just need to patient! What has your ortho said about the >muscles? > > > > > > > > > > > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months >old > > > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They >are > > > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > > > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking >it's > > > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > > > > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- >ponseti > > > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > > > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > > > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > > > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on >the > > > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet >corrected. > > > > > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 , My ortho is actually dr. p, as we switched and drove to Iowa to see him. he and my physical therapist agree that with the exercises we do, his muscles will develop. right now we are struggling with getting him to just put his feet down. I don't know if he's not putting them down and putting weight on them because he's not used to doing it and his legs have a hard time supporting himself right now...or if it's because they still hurt. He is a very severe case, we've relapsed once and went back in casts and now dr. p sent us a pair of special mitchell shoes the are not attached to the bar that he can wear during the day to learn to walk. So far he's stood once in the crib...yay!!! but it's hard to know. Until he can say mommy it hurts I have no idea! We did the surgery first and we've been paying for it ever since. I am so glad you decided against the surgery. You made a big decision and you can be very proud of that decision. You son will be very thankful for that. Part of the problem with non ponseti dr is they don't recognize an atypical foot. this can be the reason casts are not working. They are not doing the appropriate casting for his type of foot. If you have any doubts after seeing the ponseti doctor, take some pictures and send them to ponseti himself and have him look at them, he will and he will respond to you. he will even work with the doctor and come up with a plan how to best handle your sons feet. good for you for doing what is necessary and correct!! Hang in there, it's a long road, but you are almost there! Lord bless you and give you and your doctors much wisdom, > > > > > > We took john to our pediatrician today because he is 14 months > old > > > and still not walking, pulling himself up, crawling etc. They > are > > > sending us for some blood work tomorrow to rule out any muscular > > > disorders. they don't think that's what it is, still thinking > it's > > > because he was in casts for 8 months. > > > > > > Anyways, we are going to our ortho surgeon tomorrow (the non- > ponseti > > > one) and I need advice as to how to nicely suggest the ponseti > > > method instead of surgery. 's feet are relapsing. How did > > > those of you that had a non-ponseti dr. talk to them about these > > > issues? We have an appointment with a ponseti certified dr. on > the > > > 18th but I don't want to waste any time getting his feet > corrected. > > > > > > Any advice is greatly appreciated! > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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