RE: KIRKMAN sleep medications, EPD

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High levels of B vitamins can cause hyperactivity. Many times the

hyperactivity will go away after a few days or with additional magnesium.

However often the hyperactive reaction is to the flavors and the sweeteners

in the SNT (about 20%). For this reason we have hypoallergenic versions of

SNT. These new products have worked well for most kids that were hyperactive

on the original version. We have also just added a liquid SNT with P5P with

a hypoallergenic flavor (harder than it sounds to do) It will be interesting

to see if it provides additional benefits.

We are always happy to discuss any product - ours or others - to try to find

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Re: sleep medications, EPD

I think I can say for the majority of us that this is a comon occurance. My

son also has sleeping problems. Normal bed time 1-2 AM and then he will wake

at about 3:30, go back to bed at 5. Then re-wake at 9. Anyway, point I'm

getting at is, have you tried epsim salt?(sorry spelling is wrong) We

started this last week and by gosh! It's working! I now know the beacause we

ran out 2 days ago and last night he woke up again at 3:30. You may want to

give it a try, it's vary cheap, like $2 a box. This lasted us almost a week.

I have heard others talking about a specific SNT and how it was causing

hyper-activity. If I can remember right, you may want to try the

?hypo-alergenic? SNT. There was a guy here a while ago named Dave from

Kirkmans, he was always helpfull when it came to vitamin questions. Maybe if

you put SNT-Dave in the subject, it would catch his eye :-)

The sugar thing sound like the yeast beastie's going nuts, so to say. My

son also went through masive sugar cravings when we started yeast treatment.

hopefully this won't last to long for your little guy! Can't tell you much

more about the yeast issue, we stoped treatment after a couple weeks of vary

bad bm's and other problems. We have yet to re-start.

Hope some of this helps.

Mom to " Robby 5 " 4 and 1

sleep medications, EPD

I have a few questions. First, my son has a major sleep problem - difficulty

falling asleep but much more difficulty staying asleep. If he wakes up- he

is wired and up the rest of the night. OI've had no success with behavioral

strategies. I've tried melatonin, chlonidine, calcium/magnesium, zinc and

finally respirodol. He takes 0.5 cc before bed. He still wakes up but does

go back to bed without a major problem.

Last week I went to a new doctor who suggested L-Tryptophan. I tried 1/2 tab

thrn 1 tab but he still woke up wired and couldn't sleep past 3:00 am. I

guess I'm back to respiridol which I have mixed feelings about and concern

about the long term effects. Does anyone have any suggestions of someting I

may be missing. has been GFCF for about 6-8 months (many setbacks)

Yeast and sugar free for close to it for 5 weeks. He takes SNT,

TMG,probitoics, yeast control, CLO. He still wakes up anxious with huge

sugar cravings.

Lastly, has anyone had success with Enzyme potentiated Desenstization. My

doctor recommends we try this for . it seem like an overwhelming

undertaking. We are testing for heavy metal toxicity as well