Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 folks... I received a bunch of message delivery failures for " other groups " ... I apparantly can't send to more than a few groups at once... I just don't have the time to forward this to all autism groups out there... If you can help me distribute this information to other groups, I would greatly appreciate it... I've just got too many other things to write up to do this... the enzyme and mercury boards are by far my favorites... so, I posted this information there... but, from there, I need your help to get this information to other parents so that they too can decide for themselves whether or not this is the " missing link " we've all been so desperately searching for. thanks. Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 > Dear Parents: > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the conclusion > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE common > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... published > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps. > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I wanted > to share this with you also. > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email! > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I believe > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it not > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already a > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage all > parents of autistic children to share this information with parents who > do not have access to the Internet. > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like you > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on this > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for parents > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE (not > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... as > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to fight > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether or > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken a > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if you > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, however, > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was indeed > injured by a vaccine. > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators at > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help raise > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of this > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish to > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made available > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this issue. > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to share > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be " leaving > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact me > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 I don't really think this is a big issue with my daughter. She has never cared if doors,windows,etc were partially open. She drinks fine with a straw, watches part of a video and then pops in a different one, etc. She dresses and undresses when its time to and ocassionally she will prefer to be naked for awhile but usually it seems to be of no concern to her what she wears-other than liking the color purple and very glitzy things. I think when she stims with things its more about how it feels on her fingers. I don't really see her spinning things per say-mostly just touching them. Maybe this will make more sense to other parent though and even if it just pertains to your child its wonderful you reached a new understanding with him!! I am always thrilled when I think I've figured out why something fascinates or upsets my daughter. Thanks for sharing. > > Dear Parents: > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the > conclusion > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE > common > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... > published > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps. > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I > wanted > > to share this with you also. > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email! > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I > believe > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it > not > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already > a > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage > all > > parents of autistic children to share this information with parents > who > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like > you > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on > this > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for > parents > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE > (not > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... > as > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to > fight > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether > or > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken > a > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if > you > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, > however, > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was > indeed > > injured by a vaccine. > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators > at > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help > raise > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of > this > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish > to > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made > available > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this > issue. > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to > share > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be > " leaving > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact > me > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 - the point I made on my site is that my theory also explains a great deal of variation among children in terms of " what they do " and " to what degree " ... because the ONE huge coping mechanism that helps these kids " move forward " is that of LABELS... and parents all label things differently along the way... so, one child may be fine in one area but have problems in another... so, this explains the variability among kids too! I hope you understand what I'm saying here. If not, you can email me privately and I'll respond. To help many many of these kids " move forward " , what I've found is that often, you just have to label something once, and that makes the world of difference in what they can or cannot do and what they can and can not tolerate. Jeanne ) > > > Dear Parents: > > > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the > > conclusion > > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE > > common > > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... > > published > > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First > Steps. > > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I > know > > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I > > wanted > > > to share this with you also. > > > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire > email! > > > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I > > believe > > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense > and > > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for > it > > not > > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up > all > > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is > already > > a > > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I > encourage > > all > > > parents of autistic children to share this information with > parents > > who > > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would > like > > you > > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted > on > > this > > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for > > parents > > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE > > (not > > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really > are... > > as > > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to > > fight > > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... > whether > > or > > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've > taken > > a > > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if > > you > > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and > phone > > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, > > however, > > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was > > indeed > > > injured by a vaccine. > > > This link provides contact info for all states for all > legislators > > at > > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help > > raise > > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that > all > > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies > of > > this > > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant > to > > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who > wish > > to > > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made > > available > > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this > > issue. > > > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to > > share > > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be > > " leaving > > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to > contact > > me > > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Jeanne, I'm not the you were responding to, but I thought I'd butt in. I'm French Canadian also, living in the US for about 20 years. (used to be Marie) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and where we can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian? cheers H Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > Dear Parents: > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the conclusion > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE common > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... published > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps. > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I wanted > to share this with you also. > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email! > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I believe > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it not > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already a > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage all > parents of autistic children to share this information with parents who > do not have access to the Internet. > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like you > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on this > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for parents > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE (not > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... as > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to fight > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether or > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken a > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if you > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, however, > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was indeed > injured by a vaccine. > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators at > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help raise > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of this > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish to > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made available > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this issue. > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to share > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be " leaving > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact me > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 - I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet. In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right now, my goal has really been to share this information with all parents. This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary... I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much... simply through observing their child. There is just too much explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of labeling for me to dismiss this. I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out and collating the various sections. To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I think this can help. So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too... I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm done " collating " . ) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who don't have computers. Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and where we > can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian? > cheers H > Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them > [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > > > Dear Parents: > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the conclusion > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE common > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... published > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps. > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I wanted > > to share this with you also. > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email! > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I believe > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it not > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already a > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage all > > parents of autistic children to share this information with parents who > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like you > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on this > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for parents > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE (not > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... as > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to fight > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether or > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken a > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if you > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, however, > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was indeed > > injured by a vaccine. > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators at > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help raise > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of this > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish to > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made available > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this issue. > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to share > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be " leaving > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact me > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 , I forgot to mention...no, I'm not Australian...I'm originally from Canada...French Canadian...so my name is kind of pronounced like 'jan' - immigrated to the US about 20 years ago... love both countries and spend a great deal of time in both. ) So, why did you think I was Australian? Now you've really got me curious. LOL Jeanne > Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and where we > can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian? > cheers H > Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them > [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > > > Dear Parents: > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the conclusion > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE common > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... published > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First Steps. > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I know > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I wanted > > to share this with you also. > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire email! > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I believe > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense and > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for it not > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up all > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is already a > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I encourage all > > parents of autistic children to share this information with parents who > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like you > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted on this > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for parents > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE (not > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really are... as > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to fight > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... whether or > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've taken a > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if you > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and phone > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, however, > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was indeed > > injured by a vaccine. > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators at > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help raise > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that all > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies of this > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant to > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish to > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made available > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this issue. > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to share > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be " leaving > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact me > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 they're are a lot of us around... LOL...I have met so so many Canadians in the US...we're practically taking over the place... just kidding folks! Jeanne PS - I promised my mom I'd never change the spelling of my name even though I was in the US... LOL > Jeanne, > I'm not the you were responding to, but I thought I'd butt in. > I'm French Canadian also, living in the US for about 20 years. > (used to be Marie) > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 don't know why I thought you were an Australian, sounded like one - this is good! - LOL - is this a book and is it your child etc. I don't understand the website etc. Cheers H [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > > > > > > Dear Parents: > > > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the > conclusion > > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE > common > > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... > published > > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First > Steps. > > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I > know > > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I > wanted > > > to share this with you also. > > > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire > email! > > > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I > believe > > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense > and > > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for > it not > > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up > all > > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is > already a > > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I > encourage all > > > parents of autistic children to share this information with > parents who > > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like > you > > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted > on this > > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for > parents > > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE > (not > > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really > are... as > > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to > fight > > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... > whether or > > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've > taken a > > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if > you > > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and > phone > > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, > however, > > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was > indeed > > > injured by a vaccine. > > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators > at > > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help > raise > > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that > all > > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies > of this > > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant > to > > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish > to > > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made > available > > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this > issue. > > > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to > share > > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be > " leaving > > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact > me > > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 31, 2002 Report Share Posted July 31, 2002 Hi Jeanne I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as PDF file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will work for her - big file - great story - thanks Mandi in UK > - > > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free > to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet. > > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right > now, my goal has really been to share this information with all > parents. > > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I > suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary > and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary... > > I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I > basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am > convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much... > simply through observing their child. There is just too much > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of > labeling for me to dismiss this. > > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about > that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days > left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out > and collating the various sections. > > To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with > all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share > this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you > can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I > think this can help. > > So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another > book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too... > I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available > to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm > done " collating " . ) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in > writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who > don't have computers. > > > Jeanne A. Brohart > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Jeanne and Mandi thanks for that - I can't open it but I have sent to someone who will be able to and then will sit down and have a good read - I so admire folk who do this - and when it comes out please let me know as I would love a copy etc. Cheers H Re: [ ] Re: Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > Hi Jeanne > I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as PDF > file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will work for her > - big file - great story - thanks > Mandi in UK > > > - > > > > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free > > to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet. > > > > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote > > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it > > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know > > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of > > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then > > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may > > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right > > now, my goal has really been to share this information with all > > parents. > > > > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I > > suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary > > and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my > > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures > > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary... > > > > I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I > > basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am > > convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much... > > simply through observing their child. There is just too much > > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of > > labeling for me to dismiss this. > > > > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is > > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about > > that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information > > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help > > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days > > left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out > > and collating the various sections. > > > > To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with > > all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share > > this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you > > can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I > > think this can help. > > > > So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another > > book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too... > > I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available > > to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm > > done " collating " . ) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in > > writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who > > don't have computers. > > > > > > Jeanne A. Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 folks... there are " different files " we are talking about here. the book I wrote is on the Internet on my site as a pdf file... that was only the very very beginning of what I came to truly understand. At the time I wrote the book, I thought it was simply an issue with " order " overall... but then, too many parents wrote me and said: " no, I don't think that's it " ... so, I kept searching... and that's when I came to truly understand that the issue is with a subset of " order processing " ... the processing of partiality... the parts to the whole. with " order " , I could explain a a lot of stuff in my son... but with " paritality " , I can explain almost 100% of what I see in all autistic kids...except for those issues that I consider truly truly sensory in nature... those issues that I know have been helped by enzymes, for example.... but, even with the sensory issues, partiality plays a huge role. so, the stuff parents are really interested in as far as files to download is the stuff under " Behavioral, Social, Emotional, Sensory Issues explained " and under " A World of Order " . the book will give you a good idea of how I came to understand what I did, but the GREAT stuff is in the other section... on my web site, it's under " THE MISSING LINK... Could This Be The Answer Parents Have So Desperately Sought? " So, to those of you who read the book last year... like I said, the book was a " good start " , I was " close " but, still not " on target " ... now, I think we may have the " bullseye " and that's why I want as many parents to read this information and share it as possible... I need your feedback... to see if you see what I see when viewed from this perspective. Again, this just seems to put so so much together that I simply have to believe this is a huge part of the puzzle! ) As far as downloading the " Missing Link " info... I'm thinking a pdf file is probably going to have to be the way to go... that is going to take me a while to put together... I still have to finish writing a few sections up... so, be patient and I'll get one out there as soon as I can for all parents to download. Jeanne ) http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > Hi Jeanne > I downloaded the file last year and just looked it up - came down as PDF > file. I've sent on to as attachment, so hopefully that will work for her > - big file - great story - thanks > Mandi in UK > > > - > > > > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available basically for free > > to parents and the best way to do that was via the internet. > > > > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the sections I wrote > > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to see how much it > > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I will let you know > > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm thinking of > > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of that money will then > > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. Professionals may > > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't know yet... right > > now, my goal has really been to share this information with all > > parents. > > > > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my own son... and I > > suspect many many other children as well. By the way, yes, Zachary > > and all the information on my site is based on my experience with my > > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, etc. are pictures > > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING in Zachary... > > > > I've become very very observant when it comes to Zachary now... I > > basically trained myself to always analyze the situation... and I am > > convinced that parents hold within them the key to so so much... > > simply through observing their child. There is just too much > > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the importance of > > labeling for me to dismiss this. > > > > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper copies. It is > > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... sorry about > > that... again, my focus has really been to just get the information > > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a new light.. and help > > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have a good 2-3 days > > left of writing up stuff and then I can start printing everything out > > and collating the various sections. > > > > To all parents though... I really do want to share all of this with > > all parents of autistic children as freely as possible... please share > > this info with parents who do not have the internet as soon as you > > can... in your support groups, etc. There are so so many kids I > > think this can help. > > > > So, to answer your question... I'm not planning on writing another > > book... did that once and posted that on my web site for free too... > > I'm just going to collate all these sections and make them available > > to everyone on paper if they want a copy. I'll let you know when I'm > > done " collating " . ) Really though, I'm going as fast as I can in > > writing this all up so that I can get paper copies made for those who > > don't have computers. > > > > > > Jeanne A. Brohart > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 - boy... and I thought I had made things pretty plain... I'll have to put an explanation in there for folks... there are two things... 1. The book I wrote last year - this will show you how I came to understand that " order " was involved... It's a good " start " , but by far, the really good stuff... is what I came to understand AFTER I wrote the book... 2. The Missing Link info... that's not a book or anything yet... I will collate all that information for parents... it is simply a bunch of files where I go through, take each topic (i.e., language, finger pointing, odd behaviors, etc.) and explain each topic in light of the autistic child's inability to properly process partiality... to process the parts to a whole.... so, if you only have time to read one thing or want to get to the really really really good stuff... it is under " The Missing Link " . Under the link called " A World of Order " , issues that go together are " lumped together as they are explained " ... whereas under " The Missing Link " , I've kept them as separate issues in case parents wanted to read about something very very specific. I do say that on the site too... the difference between the two. I'll make sure I add a notation as to the book verses the missing link info. Hope that helps! Jeanne ) http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Jeanne, are you selling this book - if so please state the name and > > where we > > > can get it - is this your child? And are you Australian? > > > cheers H > > > Many things on the site I couldn't download, Word wouldn't read them > > > [ ] Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Parents: > > > > > > > > I am the mother of an autistic child. I have come to the > > conclusion > > > > that ONE thing can explain many many factors in my autistic > > > > child...behavioral, social, emotional, and sensory...it makes no > > > > difference as to the " type " of issue... they all have this ONE > > common > > > > thread... and as such, I wanted to share this information... > > published > > > > today in the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter: Autism First > > Steps. > > > > This is a must read for all parents of the autistic and since I > > know > > > > many of you are not on the US Autism Ambassador's Newsletter, I > > wanted > > > > to share this with you also. > > > > > > > > PARENTS - before you go to this link, please read this entire > > email! > > > > > > > > The Missing Link: The Inability of the Autistic Child To Process > > > > Partiality - to read more, please go to: > > > > > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Could this be the answer parents have so desperately sought? I > > believe > > > > it may very well be the one explanation that finally makes sense > > and > > > > puts it all together... this simply explains too many things for > > it not > > > > to be a huge chunk to " our puzzle " . I'm almost done writing up > > all > > > > sections... there are a few more I want to add, but there is > > already a > > > > ton on this link to be shared with parents everywhere. I > > encourage all > > > > parents of autistic children to share this information with > > parents who > > > > do not have access to the Internet. > > > > > > > > Also, as each parent reads this information and decides for > > > > himself/herself whether or not this theory has merit, I would like > > you > > > > to keep one thing in mind. The Frist Bill is going to be voted > > on this > > > > week in Washington. This bill will prevent anyone from suing > > > > pharmaceuticals over ANY vaccination damage. The only way for > > parents > > > > to defeat this bill if for all parents to ban together and PHONE > > (not > > > > email) their legislators in Washington to urge them to veto this > > > > bill. Once you see just " how damaged " these children really > > are... as > > > > I now do, you may feel rather overwhelmed, but, you still need to > > fight > > > > the fight and pick up your phone to help defeat this bill... > > whether or > > > > not you think a vaccination was the source of your child's autism. > > > > Please take the 5 minutes you need to take to do this. I've > > taken a > > > > great deal of time to provide you with this information... and if > > you > > > > find it to be of value, please do this one thing for me... and > > phone > > > > your legislators! I am not personally involved in any lawsuit, > > however, > > > > I do believe in each parent's right to justice if their child was > > indeed > > > > injured by a vaccine. > > > > This link provides contact info for all states for all legislators > > at > > > > federal and state level. Please take 5 minutes to help. > > > > > > > > http://www.berkshire.net/~ifas/activist/index2.html > > > > > > > > Please note: All parents have my permission to download any > > > > information I personally provide on my site for free provided that > > > > information is used for personal use only as defined under " Use Of > > > > Materials On This Site " . I will be using these materials to help > > raise > > > > funds for the treatment of the autistic, and as such, I ask that > > all > > > > parents contact me if they see someone using unauthorized copies > > of this > > > > information. This use of materials on my site, for free, I grant > > to > > > > parents of autistic children ONLY. Materials for those who wish > > to > > > > purchase paper copies of this information will soon be made > > available > > > > for everyone. Thank you for understanding my concern with this > > issue. > > > > > > > > I have joined many " " today... for today only... to > > share > > > > this information with as many parents as possible. I will be > > " leaving > > > > these groups " once this email goes out. The best way to contact > > me > > > > will then be via the above web site. I apologize for " duplicate > > > > copies " of this message to those who are on multiple lists. ) > > > > > > > > Jeanne A. Robitaille-Brohart > > > > http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 ....Yet, once that label is given, I believe autistic children can integrate " a lie " into language capabilities and can " fib " as well as anyone else. ) ..... This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think the parent has taken what she has found with her child and over generalized. EVERYBODY needs order in their lives. Most autistic people are very good at getting order in their lives ( note how families have to modify their activities to accomodate the person on spectrum). The problem is that the order is different because the autistic person percieves sensory input differently and processes that input differently. Think about this small example (and I have many many more). You ask that maths be taught in the right order. What does that mean? How can you determine the right order when many mathematics genii are hopeless at arithmetic but brilliant at the calculus/topology/knots/trig ad infinitum? How can you make assumptions about spelling when people learn to read and spell in so many different ways. I and many others learned to read before they knew anything about the alphabet. I didn't understand sound/symbol relationships until I was in my thirties. Why? As a child, I perceived letters as colours. The labels the teacher taught for letter sounds were nonsense to me. I could not spell until I learned to ignore what the teacher was telling me to do and just pictured text that I had read with that word in it. I could then just copy the word from visual memory. The whole, yes, but I was breaking text into parts and this had never been labelled or taught in any way. There was some very complex and totally different cognitive processing going on there. I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account with interest but to understand that just as I do not think every autistic child will learn to spell my way, this theory does not hold true for every or even most people on spectrum. It is simple and that is the attraction, but I am certain it is far, far too simple. > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:45 -0000 > From: " autismhelpforyou " > <autismhelpforyou@...> > Subject: Re: Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > - > > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available > basically for free > to parents and the best way to do that was via the > internet. > > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the > sections I wrote > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to > see how much it > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I > will let you know > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm > thinking of > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of > that money will then > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. > Professionals may > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't > know yet... right > now, my goal has really been to share this > information with all > parents. > > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my > own son... and I > suspect many many other children as well. By the > way, yes, Zachary > and all the information on my site is based on my > experience with my > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, > etc. are pictures > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING > in Zachary... > > I've become very very observant when it comes to > Zachary now... I > basically trained myself to always analyze the > situation... and I am > convinced that parents hold within them the key to > so so much... > simply through observing their child. There is > just too much > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the > importance of > labeling for me to dismiss this. > > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper > copies. It is > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... > sorry about > that... again, my focus has really been to just get > the information > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a > new light.. and help > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have > a good 2-3 days > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 <A HREF= " http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm " >Synesthesia: Hearing Colors - Succeed Through Using Your Senses</A> http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm The ability to sense objects as " colors " is called synethesia. My son has it.....I suspect a lot of people who are visual learners do. Anyway, this is just an fyi link for anyone interested into looking more into it. Liane Gentry Skye <A HREF= " http://talkingwithpictures.com/ " >Talking With Pictures</A> " nonverbal " does not have to mean " unable to communicate " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 In a message dated 8/1/02 11:50:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, danaatty@... writes: > But if you cannot articulate > your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to > rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself. > Hi, I'm also having trouble understanding what you mean. I went to your site because I thought you were talking about the way my son thinks/learns: He has trouble grasping the whole, the entire gestalt of things. He cannot extrapolate meaning from the entire thing -- he gets stuck on detail. In other words, he can see a tree, but not the entire forest. He's great with straight, rote facts. Not critical thinking. Can you clarify? I was following you at first but then you lost me. I have a dash of autism also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 > This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think > the parent has taken what she has found with her child > and over generalized. I agree with this statement. My son never really needed " order " . In fact, he does not care which clothes he wears, which chair he sits in, or many things like that. He is generally happy all the time, no matter what. > I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account > with interest but to understand that just as I do not > think every autistic child will learn to spell my way, > this theory does not hold true for every or even most > people on spectrum. I think this theory/observation probably applies to many AS kids, but not all, because if anything applied to ALL, then it would have been discovered by everyone already. I do disagree that it applies to all, because in my opinion and experience, it does not. But it is very nice that she was able to figure out her own child and perhaps help other parents with similar children. It is good to make information available which may help other people. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Well, I want to respond to your message... yes, it is simple... but so is E = MC squared... Einstein's great theory. Man has a " thing " with always wanting to search for something complex in everything, when, too often, the answer is quite simple. I'm not saying they don't need order in their lives... we all know they do... what I am saying, is that we now need to help them understand " the parts " that make up that order... because in everything, for something to make sense, it must have some kind of order to it... that is true of basic addition or calculus. ) I'm glad you sent this email... because I had yet to write my section on teaching a " process " and I will certainly take what you say into consideration... but, overwhelmingly, and yes, this is totally based on observations with my own son... but I see it in many other autistic children as well... the parts must be labeled first... before they can be put together... you must be able to understand the difference between a " + " and a " - " , a sign of division and one of multiplication. And once that connection is made, then everything falls very much into place. Whether or not you had these things specifically " labeled " for you, I don't know... I'm just saying that labeling is the way to help kids understand what is going on when they don't understand... so, if you were able to figure something out on your own... that's great... but, what about all those children who can't make sense of it... not every child is a high functioning or brilliant autistic child. I absolutely agree with you that the autistic process sensory information differently... they look to categorize everything... that has been seen time and time again.... so, no disagreement there. Temple Gradin (I think that is how you spell it) explains this very well in her talks and everything she says (as I recently saw on a video) in terms of sensory processing as " she felt it going on " is totally in line with what I am saying. You state that you did not understand " symbol/sound " relationships until you were in your thirties... again... why is that? You said you knew how to read before you knew the alphabet... well, think about it... perhaps if you had been taught first the alphabet, then the sounds of letters, then that letters (symbols) make up words, etc... perhaps you would have figured out the relationships between sounds and symbols, etc. at a much much earlier age. So, again, everything you yourself are saying is totally in line with what I am saying. As far as understanding letters in colors...that statement is absolutely fascinating to me. If you look on my site... you will see a link called Zachary's progress in pictures... what actually got my son to start speaking was what I called: " Zachary's Room Of Colors " ... if you look at those pictures, you will see that I had painted the entire room in multiple colors... and each letter of the alphabet was painted in a color different from that for the color next to it. My son knew the entire alphabet and I didn't even know it... until I completed my " room of colors " . On that morning, Zachary came in, the paint had barely dried, he placed his hands on the " H " and said: " AAADCCCCHHHH " ... he then went over to the letter " A " , placed his hand on it and said: " AAAAAAAAAAAA " . No remember, I had no clue he knew any of this... yet, within a matter of one day... he could tell me each and every letter perfectly. Your statement makes me wonder if the " color " was what helped trigger his language. That is all very very interesting to me. You have to realize, all these things I am puttig together in terms of how I can explain my son's issues, are all very new to me... I'm learning as I go along too... and I'm wondering if your statement of " colors " is another piece to it. I will certainly include it in my materials as a contribution from a reader... if it helps children out there, great... but, I really really do find that fascinating. Again, you say you learned to read by breaking text " into parts " ... that is exactly what I am saying... kids who are autistic need to understand the " parts " before they can put the whole together! Again, although you think you disagree with me, everything you are saying supports my theory 100%. ) The fact that the " parts " had not been labeled for you does not mean that you weren't " trying to pull them apart " and figure them out on your own... obviously you were... and had someone labeled those for you, I suspect things would have been much much easier for you. Your perspective is fascinating to me... to hear adults who are autistic just reinforces my theory more and more as to what is really going on. I hope you can now understand what I am saying... and yes, it is simple... but again, so is E=MCsquared. The answer to many things in life is often the simple one! ) I truly thank you for sharing your perspective. You may have helped me put another little piece of it together. Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > ...Yet, once that label is given, I believe autistic > children can integrate " a lie " into language > capabilities and can " fib " as well as anyone else. > ) ..... > > This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think > the parent has taken what she has found with her child > and over generalized. EVERYBODY needs order in their > lives. Most autistic people are very good at getting > order in their lives ( note how families have to > modify their activities to accomodate the person on > spectrum). The problem is that the order is different > because the autistic person percieves sensory input > differently and processes that input differently. > > Think about this small example (and I have many many > more). You ask that maths be taught in the right > order. What does that mean? How can you determine > the right order when many mathematics genii are > hopeless at arithmetic but brilliant at the > calculus/topology/knots/trig ad infinitum? > How can you make assumptions about spelling when > people learn to read and spell in so many different > ways. I and many others learned to read before they > knew anything about the alphabet. I didn't understand > sound/symbol relationships until I was in my thirties. > Why? As a child, I perceived letters as colours. > The labels the teacher taught for letter sounds were > nonsense to me. I could not spell until I learned to > ignore what the teacher was telling me to do and just > pictured text that I had read with that word in it. I > could then just copy the word from visual memory. The > whole, yes, but I was breaking text into parts and > this had never been labelled or taught in any way. > There was some very complex and totally different > cognitive processing going on there. > I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account > with interest but to understand that just as I do not > think every autistic child will learn to spell my way, > this theory does not hold true for every or even most > people on spectrum. It is simple and that is the > attraction, but I am certain it is far, far too > simple. > > > Message: 2 > > Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 22:23:45 -0000 > > From: " autismhelpforyou " > > <autismhelpforyou@c...> > > Subject: Re: Autism - THE MISSING LINK: Is this it? > > > > - > > > > I've always wanted to make whatever I did available > > basically for free > > to parents and the best way to do that was via the > > internet. > > > > In the next week or so, I will be collating all the > > sections I wrote > > up into " a packet " and talking to a printing shop to > > see how much it > > would be to reproduce these. Once that is done, I > > will let you know > > how much reproduction costs. For paper copies, I'm > > thinking of > > making them (cost + $3.00) for parents... Part of > > that money will then > > go to help in the treatment of autistic children. > > Professionals may > > have to pay a little more for the packet... I don't > > know yet... right > > now, my goal has really been to share this > > information with all > > parents. > > > > This theory TOTALLY explains the issues I see in my > > own son... and I > > suspect many many other children as well. By the > > way, yes, Zachary > > and all the information on my site is based on my > > experience with my > > own son. All the pictures in the various sections, > > etc. are pictures > > I took as I so painstainkingly observed EVERYTHING > > in Zachary... > > > > I've become very very observant when it comes to > > Zachary now... I > > basically trained myself to always analyze the > > situation... and I am > > convinced that parents hold within them the key to > > so so much... > > simply through observing their child. There is > > just too much > > explained based on this " partiality thing " and the > > importance of > > labeling for me to dismiss this. > > > > I'll post something soon as to how to get paper > > copies. It is > > probably going to take me at least 2 weeks though... > > sorry about > > that... again, my focus has really been to just get > > the information > > out there to perhaps help parents see things in a > > new light.. and help > > them in how they help their kids. I figure I have > > a good 2-3 days > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 folks you are missing the point... I too used to think the problem was order.. that was what I had written in my book over 6 months ago... what I'm saying is that the issue is not one of " order " per say, but of processing " the parts to the whole " properly. please read my response to the email stating my theory has a " lot of missing links " ... perhaps you'll understand better. Everything this person says is 100% in agreement with my theory. ) Look at things in terms of " PARTS TO THE WHOLE " ... that's what I'm saying. Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs, etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you are TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the improper processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child needs to " pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole. As far as " if it were so easy " .. we would have figured this out a long time ago... again, I totally disagree with that statement... here is a very concrete example. Man has never been able to figure out how the sun's corona is heated... until recently... my brother figured it out... and it was very very simple... one of the basic underlying assumptions in the second law of physics was incorrectly applied... and sent the entire house of cards tumbling down in terms of the " big bang " theory, etc. My brother is in the top 1 or 2 in the world in MRI research, and his work there is what led him to his discoveries as to the composition of the sun, etc. Most Americans still think the sun is a big ball of gas...it isn't... it has a layer of liquid... and that explains the reason NASA sees " ripples " in solar flares... again, something very very simple... a problem in the second law of thermal physics... and yet, when captured... it just puts it all together! For those of you who care to read about that whole issue.. please go to thermalphysics.org (that's my brother's site)... he is a scientist who is respected worldwide... considered to be the very best in his field... as you will see in my link called: Question Everything on my site. Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > This theory has a whole lot of missing links. I think > > the parent has taken what she has found with her child > > and over generalized. > > > I agree with this statement. My son never really needed " order " . In > fact, he does not care which clothes he wears, which chair he sits in, > or many things like that. He is generally happy all the time, no > matter what. > > > > I would plead with parents perhaps to read the account > > with interest but to understand that just as I do not > > think every autistic child will learn to spell my way, > > this theory does not hold true for every or even most > > people on spectrum. > > > I think this theory/observation probably applies to many AS kids, but > not all, because if anything applied to ALL, then it would have been > discovered by everyone already. I do disagree that it applies to all, > because in my opinion and experience, it does not. But it is very > nice that she was able to figure out her own child and perhaps help > other parents with similar children. It is good to make information > available which may help other people. > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 > Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs, > etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you are > TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the improper > processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child needs to > " pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole. Okay so I am totally missing your point. But if you cannot articulate your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself. I am autistic. I disagree with your point as I understand it. I disagree that ALL autistic individuals need order or " parts to the whole " or whatever you are trying to say. I know some autistic individuals who must see the whole first, before they can understand the parts. But even if that is not your point either, that is okay. MY point is that no two autistic individuals are the same. And that is the primary point that I see you are making. You can phrase it however you want, but you are still saying that all autistic individuals are a certain way, must process a certain way, whatever you are trying to say. And I disagree with that statement. But we are free to disagree, and other people can read your opinion and my opinion, and then make their own conclusions. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 Dana - you don't need to get so defensive... ) I've been writing this stuff up for the last two weeks almost non stop to get this out to parents so that they can decide for themselves... if my wording is not " 100% " accurate, I can update it somewhat. As far as every child being different, again, you obviously missed the section on my site that addressed why this theory explains " why they can all be so different " . I'm sorry Dana, but there is just too much explained by this to just " brush it off " ... it just puts too many things together. I am simply a parent, like many others out there trying to help other kids and trying to help other parents figure this out... It's like I state in my section on " brain studies " ... if the underlying assumptions are wrong as to how the brain works... as I truly believe they are (in terms of this part of the brain being involved in this function, and that being involved in that function, etc.), then, all these " great " (and I use that term very very loosely) brain studies are basically out the window. If the underlying assumptions people have used all along are wrong... then the " result " of those assumptions can't help but be wrong also. And, yes, perhaps this doesn't explain everything for every child out there... but I suspect it explains a great deal for many many of them!... and if this can help us understand as parents, why turn this into a " nasty discussion " . I don't take things personally...and there is no need for you to either... When I stated you were " missing the point " , it wasn't in a negative way, Dana... it was simply a statement of fact... and if it came across negatively, I apologize. I will try to be careful about how things are worded... but, it's like I stated, right now, I'm just trying to get the information out there... fine tuning " exact words " can come next. I'm just proposing a theory that I think makes a lot of sense and each parent needs to look at it in terms of their own child. ) Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > > > Dana - as far as your child not having issues with with chairs, > > etc.... again, that's not the issue...I hate to say it, but you are > > TOTALLY missing my point... the main issue has to do with the > improper > > processing of " parts to the whole " ... that the autistic child needs > to > > " pick out the parts " before he can understand the whole. > > > Okay so I am totally missing your point. But if you cannot articulate > your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to > rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself. > > I am autistic. I disagree with your point as I understand it. I > disagree that ALL autistic individuals need order or " parts to the > whole " or whatever you are trying to say. I know some autistic > individuals who must see the whole first, before they can understand > the parts. > > But even if that is not your point either, that is okay. MY point is > that no two autistic individuals are the same. And that is the > primary point that I see you are making. You can phrase it however > you want, but you are still saying that all autistic individuals are a > certain way, must process a certain way, whatever you are trying to > say. And I disagree with that statement. But we are free to > disagree, and other people can read your opinion and my opinion, and > then make their own conclusions. > > > Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 thanks for sharing these links... I'll add them to my site. Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > <A HREF= " http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm " >Syne sthesia: Hearing Colors - Succeed Through Using Your Senses</A> > > http://www.school-for-champions.com/senses/synesthesia.htm > > The ability to sense objects as " colors " is called synethesia. My son has > it.....I suspect a lot of people who are visual learners do. > > Anyway, this is just an fyi link for anyone interested into looking more into > it. > > Liane Gentry Skye > > <A HREF= " http://talkingwithpictures.com/ " >Talking With Pictures</A> > > " nonverbal " does not have to mean " unable to communicate " > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 > Dana - you don't need to get so defensive... ) I am never defensive. I state my opinion objectively. I dislike that people would consider all autistic children " the same " . > > I've been writing this stuff up for the last two weeks almost non stop > to get this out to parents so that they can decide for themselves... > if my wording is not " 100% " accurate, I can update it somewhat. That might be helpful. > > As far as every child being different, again, you obviously missed the > section on my site that addressed why this theory explains " why they > can all be so different " . Your site is too busy for me to find most things, but if you have a section for that, then that is good. Maybe you can make your site easier to find things? But then you say your theory " explains autistic kids " . So to me, that is inconsistent and confusing. You might want to make it more understandable. >> I'm sorry Dana, but there is just too much > explained by this to just " brush it off " ... it just puts too many > things together. Then don't brush it off. Put your ideas on your site, tell people about it, and it will probably help many kids/parents. > And, yes, perhaps this doesn't explain everything for every child out > there... but I suspect it explains a great deal for many many of > them!... You can believe this, that is fine. And I can disagree, that is also fine. >> and if this can help us understand as parents, why turn this > into a " nasty discussion " . I did not turn it into a nasty discussion. I disagreed with you. Does disagreement make things nasty? Sorry, I don't understand why that would be so. >> I don't take things personally...and > there is no need for you to either... I didn't. Just because I disagree with someone, does not mean I took it negatively, or personally. It just means I disagreed. >> When I stated you were " missing > the point " , it wasn't in a negative way, Dana... I did not understand it as negative. Just that you stated [with the word TOTALLY in capital letters, which I considered a semi-slap but chose to ignore] I was missing your point, and I agreed that maybe I was, but then you might want to rephrase your point. Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2002 Report Share Posted August 1, 2002 What I am trying to say...LOL... I never thought this would be so difficult to explain... is that, at least in my son, and I suspect many other children as well.... I can explan A TON of stuff based solely on one thing: My child can not understand " the whole " without first understanding the " parts " that make up the whole. So, he couldn't understand " a word " without first understanding the parts to a word... the fact that there is this thing called the alphabet made up of letters... and that each letter has a sound or sounds associated with it... and that you can put letters together to make a word. Only after he understood all that, did he understand the concept of " words " and how you use them. I don't know how else to say it folks... just that to " understand " the whole... they need to understand the " parts " that make up the whole... starting with the very very lowest level possible. Can kids learn other ways? I'm sure they can... I'm simply saying that " defining the parts " makes learning a lot easier and helps move them forward a lot faster since they need to " categorize " everything before they can understand it. Again, that's why I think we see so much variability in these kids and how they learn... how you label things, when you label things, etc. for them makes a huge huge difference in my opinion. I know that what I'm proposing is very new to everyone... no matter how " simple " it seems... but, when you truly grasp " what I'm saying " then I think a lot more of it will fall into place. My best advice is just to read the materials I provided and think about it. By the way, French is my first language (I did not really speak much english until 8th grade) so, maybe I'm not as accurate in my wording as I need to be... although I really thought I was. I think really, it is honestly just going to take time for people to look at things in a new way. I added a link at the top of my site called: How to use the info on this site... maybe that will help some of you too! Jeanne A. Brohart http://www.autismhelpforyou.com > In a message dated 8/1/02 11:50:08 AM Eastern Daylight Time, > danaatty@y... writes: > > > > But if you cannot articulate > > your point so that people can understand it, then perhaps you need to > > rephrase it, or perhaps you do not understand it yourself. > > > > Hi, > I'm also having trouble understanding what you mean. I went to your > site because I thought you were talking about the way my son thinks/learns: > He has trouble grasping the whole, the entire gestalt of things. He cannot > extrapolate meaning from the entire thing -- he gets stuck on detail. In > other words, he can see a tree, but not the entire forest. He's great with > straight, rote facts. Not critical thinking. > Can you clarify? I was following you at first but then you lost me. I > have a dash of autism also. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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