Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 , Dr. Zimmerman did not mention the gut/brain connection at all. I had a theory set in my mind that I wanted to speak with him about. I thought that maybe there was a deep set virus, and when the fever started to fight it, my son became NT like. I mentioned this to Dr. Zimmerman, and he agreed, but he tended to think that it has to do with the synapses (the connectors) in the brain. He said, that they might be connecting properly during a fever. It was all quite fascinating, and also very confusing. I listened to an immunologist, a gastroenterologist a neurologist and a biochemist the only thing they all mentioned was TNF (tumor necrosis factor). Lymphocytes were inflamed in the intestines and the brain. > And then you have to see my husband. tHE MINUTE HE HAS BREAKFAST he falls asleep and gets INCREDIBLY grumpy. Such a difference to when he wakes up. Hes Mr. Chipper and then he eats and then watch out..Mr Hyde takes over. Goodness is this ever interesting!! > > That busts this silly myth...they used to tell us we felt tired because the blood left the brain to visit the stomach in order to pick up the vital nutrients. I wonder who disseminated that idea... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 11, 2002 Report Share Posted May 11, 2002 In a message dated 5/11/02 7:01:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Hjfasufi@... writes: > , Dr. Zimmerman did not mention the gut/brain connection at all. > I had a theory set in my mind that I wanted to speak with him about. > I thought that maybe there was a deep set virus, and when the fever > started to fight it, my son became NT like. I mentioned this to Dr. > Zimmerman, and he agreed, but he tended to think that it has to do > with the synapses (the connectors) in the brain. He said, that they > might be connecting properly during a fever. It was all quite > fascinating, and also very confusing. > > -- I know Dr. Goldberg (California) has written extensively about this. (www.neuroimmunedr.com) and his theories are that there are viruses which are causing a disregulation of the immune system (specifically, cytokines) and when our kids run a fever, they are fighting the virus and that is why we see more high functioning behaviors. He believes that the viruses are causing a reduction of blood flow to the brain and that' s why he advocates the use of SSRI's -- becuase they increase blood flow to the frontal lobe of the brain. I haven't gone to see Dr. Goldberg because I am really nervous about using SSRIs and anti-viral medications (often for long periods) because we have had a bad experience with SSRI's and also because Josh has elevated SGOT liver enzymes and isn't a good candidate for these types of drugs. But, his theories are very compelling . . . Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 In a message dated 5/12/02 7:51:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Hjfasufi@... writes: > Have you tried some of the herb anti-virals? > > -- Josh currently takes one olive leaf extract capsule per day (500 mg.). We do it more as preventative maintenance for yeast and bacteria. It is supposed to be anti-viral, but at a much higher dosage. Celia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 12, 2002 Report Share Posted May 12, 2002 Celia, thanks so much for the link! I have read a little about Dr. Goldberg, but not very much. I have never tried my son on SSRI's because he seems to have allergies to everything. Amoxicillian makes his lips swell and turn red. Some medications have an opposite effect on him. Have you tried some of the herb anti-virals? PS: Happy Mother's Day to All! > -- > > I know Dr. Goldberg (California) has written extensively about this. > (www.neuroimmunedr.com) and his theories are that there are viruses which are > causing a disregulation of the immune system (specifically, cytokines) and > when > our kids run a fever, they are fighting the virus and that is why we see more > high > functioning behaviors. He believes that the viruses are causing a reduction > of blood > flow to the brain and that' s why he advocates the use of SSRI's -- becuase > they > increase blood flow to the frontal lobe of the brain. > > I haven't gone to see Dr. Goldberg because I am really nervous about using > SSRIs and anti-viral medications (often for long periods) because we have had > a bad experience with SSRI's and also because Josh has elevated SGOT liver > enzymes > and isn't a good candidate for these types of drugs. > > But, his theories are very compelling . . . > > Celia > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 , I never got back to you on this. Omega 3 will decrease the TNF and therefore the inflammation. [ ] Re: Dr. Zimmerman , Dr. Zimmerman did not mention the gut/brain connection at all. I had a theory set in my mind that I wanted to speak with him about. I thought that maybe there was a deep set virus, and when the fever started to fight it, my son became NT like. I mentioned this to Dr. Zimmerman, and he agreed, but he tended to think that it has to do with the synapses (the connectors) in the brain. He said, that they might be connecting properly during a fever. It was all quite fascinating, and also very confusing. I listened to an immunologist, a gastroenterologist a neurologist and a biochemist the only thing they all mentioned was TNF (tumor necrosis factor). Lymphocytes were inflamed in the intestines and the brain. > And then you have to see my husband. tHE MINUTE HE HAS BREAKFAST he falls asleep and gets INCREDIBLY grumpy. Such a difference to when he wakes up. Hes Mr. Chipper and then he eats and then watch out..Mr Hyde takes over. Goodness is this ever interesting!! > > That busts this silly myth...they used to tell us we felt tired because the blood left the brain to visit the stomach in order to pick up the vital nutrients. I wonder who disseminated that idea... > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 - Butting in here-how does that work??? That is bizarre! Can you explain further? --- In @y..., " Griffiths " <rp46285@o...> wrote: > , > > I never got back to you on this. Omega 3 will decrease the TNF and therefore the inflammation. > > > [ ] Re: Dr. Zimmerman > > > , Dr. Zimmerman did not mention the gut/brain connection at all. > I had a theory set in my mind that I wanted to speak with him about. > I thought that maybe there was a deep set virus, and when the fever > started to fight it, my son became NT like. I mentioned this to Dr. > Zimmerman, and he agreed, but he tended to think that it has to do > with the synapses (the connectors) in the brain. He said, that they > might be connecting properly during a fever. It was all quite > fascinating, and also very confusing. > > I listened to an immunologist, a gastroenterologist a neurologist and > a biochemist the only thing they all mentioned was TNF (tumor > necrosis factor). Lymphocytes were inflamed in the intestines and the > brain. > > > > > > > And then you have to see my husband. tHE MINUTE HE HAS BREAKFAST he > falls asleep and gets INCREDIBLY grumpy. Such a difference to when he > wakes up. Hes Mr. Chipper and then he eats and then watch out..Mr > Hyde takes over. Goodness is this ever interesting!! > > > > That busts this silly myth...they used to tell us we felt tired > because the blood left the brain to visit the stomach in order to > pick up the vital nutrients. I wonder who disseminated that idea... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 20, 2002 Report Share Posted October 20, 2002 Balancing Fatty Acids has a direct influence on the TNF (Tumour Necrosis factor). If you are high in Omega 6, the TNF goes up. This is one of the reasons CANCER mushrooms in the presence of too much Omega 6. If you reduce the TNF by upping the Omega 3, tumours will shrink. I saw this phenomena in myself when I started on CLO and Omega 3, EPA to be exact. I had a two year old keloid, ugly red scarry raised tissue on my neck as a result of a lanced strep based abcess. I tried everything to render it invisible. Vitamin E,, silicon salbe etc but nothing worked. It always defied me. After a week on Omega 3s, I noticed one day that the area was no longer red and the raised scarred area had gone back flush to the skin around it. Its is hardly discernible now. I will see if I can find some articles on TNF in Medline. [ ] Re: Dr. Zimmerman > > > , Dr. Zimmerman did not mention the gut/brain connection at all. > I had a theory set in my mind that I wanted to speak with him about. > I thought that maybe there was a deep set virus, and when the fever > started to fight it, my son became NT like. I mentioned this to Dr. > Zimmerman, and he agreed, but he tended to think that it has to do > with the synapses (the connectors) in the brain. He said, that they > might be connecting properly during a fever. It was all quite > fascinating, and also very confusing. > > I listened to an immunologist, a gastroenterologist a neurologist and > a biochemist the only thing they all mentioned was TNF (tumor > necrosis factor). Lymphocytes were inflamed in the intestines and the > brain. > > > > > > > And then you have to see my husband. tHE MINUTE HE HAS BREAKFAST he > falls asleep and gets INCREDIBLY grumpy. Such a difference to when he > wakes up. Hes Mr. Chipper and then he eats and then watch out..Mr > Hyde takes over. Goodness is this ever interesting!! > > > > That busts this silly myth...they used to tell us we felt tired > because the blood left the brain to visit the stomach in order to > pick up the vital nutrients. I wonder who disseminated that idea... > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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