Re: Success rate of Cutler protocol

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I'm a chelating adult and I'm also chelating my 2 neurotypical kids. We've done

something

like 65 rounds in almost two years, having taken an extended break this year.

No regrets, and significant progress. We saw a lot of progress in the

beginning, then sort of

a stall (this is normal), and then things went to hell in a handbasket for me.

It turned out I had a bad fungal infection in my gut, as well as food

intolerances which

needed to be addresssed. Also, somewhat messed up adrenals and thyroid and sex

hormones.

IME, people who just chelate, but don't sufficiently address the other systems

which need

support or fixing, don't fare as well. There is a reason Amalgam Illness is

jam-packed with a

lot of info besides just " how to chelate " .

Good luck,

[Guest guest]

>

> Could you please explain what happened? Did you recover from the

> regression period? How are you doing now?

>

The turning point was the severe fungal infection in my gut. I was on 2 rounds

of

antibiotics for an illness, dealing with a family crisis, and then felt

everything start to go

downhill after that. I don't think I was nearly aggressive enough with the

probiotics, and I

was not on an anti-candida diet.

I did a GI test, and the fungal infection turned out to be a type of fungus

which is a known

contaminant of kefir grains. I suspect the homemade kefir I was guzzling was

contaminated and contributed to the severity of the infection.

The GI test also showed I was gluten intolerant, and soy intolerant. The

problems in my

gut were likely straining my adrenals, and pushing my thryoid down.

In addition, I'm fairly sure I'm low on progesterone (perimenopause), but I'm

taking it one

little step at a time, and saving money to do some testing so there is less

guesswork.

I've been gluten free since mid-July, anti-candida diet, I'm taking an herbal

antifungal, lots

of probiotics, digestive enzymes...and I'm feeling a whole lot better.

It's got nothing to do with chelating perse.

HTH,

[Guest guest]

> This is a quote from one of Andy's posts on depression:

>

> " If your mood is bouncing and the period is days or longer, it can be

you are reacting to

> dietary issues you haven't figured out yet, or you are chemically

sensitive. In these cases all

> of the above won't help much until you avoid the offending foods or

chemicals, then you may

> not need much help. "

Interesting. I have both moods swings over a period of several days but

also mood swings during the day. Feel better at night and in the

morning and usually depressed in the evening... Any ideas what could

cause my 'evening depression'?

[Guest guest]

I am leaving town to attend a wedding this weekend, so I don't have time for a

long explanation, but I do not feel that my appendix rupture had anything to do

with chelation. There were some other contributing factors, possibly, and they

say it is caused by an infection, so I personally do not attribute it to

chelation whatsoever. Chelation is one of the few things that has made me feel

better/more normal these past couple of years. And I don't think I will ever

get well if I don't continue to chelate. I started a round yesterday, and I

feel better than I have in a long time, so I know it is what I need to do.

Don't let hearing about problems scare you away from chelation, just realize

that some people run into problems that may have nothing to do with chelation,

and remember that you usually hear alot more about the problems here, rather

than when things are going perfectly well. People come here when they have

problems to get help, and lots of them don't report when things are going really

well.

Jackie

In frequent-dose-chelation letsdetox wrote:

I do find it interesting that there are 2 long term chelators that got

serious gut problems after a while. I hope this has nohing to do with

the chelation per se.