Re: Nuerological symptoms HELP.

[Guest guest]

Mercury is in the central nervous system. It usually stores there.

So you may see symptoms as you begin to remove it.

DMSA will clear metals our of cells and organs. ALA will clear the

central nervous system/brain. Using them together in low doses may

work better and it will help reduce symptoms.

>

> So after taking ALA 3 cycles using andy's protocal, i started

having

> warm sensations on the back of my leg, bottom of foot, burning

patches.

>

> This has continued despite stopping the ALA, which was probably

too

> high, 25mg.

>

> I recently started saunas because i seem to be very sensitive to

> anything i'm taking so i'm worried to start DMPS, DMSA or ALA

again.

> This is due to the crazy amount of food allergies, etc. that began

> while taking ALA.

>

> But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to

cause

> these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i

know

> DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular

space,

> while ALA does intra-cellular.

>

> So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that help

> alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

>

> I'm really confused on this aspect of chelation and need some

> clarification.

>

> Thanks

> scott

>

[Guest guest]

>

> But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to cause

> these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i know

> DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular space,

> while ALA does intra-cellular.

>

> So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that help

> alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

I'm afraid you might be making matters worse with the sauna, effectively

stirring metals up in the extracellular space and allowing that little bit

extra to cross over into the CNS (Central Nervous System) each time.

I think you are destined to really lower your dose of DMSA and ALA to 5mg

and chelate.

You'll have to use ALA to get mercury out the CNS. It is the only way.

You might need adrenal support to calm the inflammation.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

>

> So after taking ALA 3 cycles using andy's protocal, i started

having

> warm sensations on the back of my leg, bottom of foot, burning

patches.

>

> This has continued despite stopping the ALA, which was probably too

> high, 25mg.

>

> I recently started saunas because i seem to be very sensitive to

> anything i'm taking so i'm worried to start DMPS, DMSA or ALA

again.

> This is due to the crazy amount of food allergies, etc. that began

> while taking ALA.

>

> But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to cause

> these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i

know

> DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular

space,

> while ALA does intra-cellular.

>

> So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that help

> alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

>

> I'm really confused on this aspect of chelation and need some

> clarification.

>

> Thanks

> scott

>

You might try stopping the ALA for a while and just using DMSA or

DMPS to lower the mercury levels in your extra-cellular (I.E. body

burden) first. If you have a lot of mercury floating throughout your

body, and only take ALA, you might be pushing mercury in or around

the nervous system, making things worse temporarily.

If you take DMPS or DMSA for a while first (without ALA), you will

greatly lower the level of mercury in your body. That will give you a

higher concentration of mercury in the nerves than in the rest of

your body. That is when you could try ALA again (with the DMSA/DMPS).

There will be little chance of more mercury migrating to the nerves

at that point.

I think the saunas are good in general, but personally I have had

some sauna sessions that really flared up my symptoms, mostly the

saunas I did at the start of chelation. Maybe it would be wise to

keep saunas until closer to the end, when you need the extra help

pulling mercury out into the easier to reach places of the body.

I have never been able to find enough information on saunas though,

so I'm no expert on them.

Near the start of chelation, you probably don't need the saunas or

ALA to dig deep to get to mercury. However, the sauna could be good

if, like you said, you are sensitive to the pharmaceutical chelators.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I also experience the hot/itchy soles of feet issue with ALA use. I

use clay baths (even just of the feet relieves it) eg. LL Magnetic

Clays, I'm on a budget and use much less than prescribed with good

relief. The other thing that I find useful is footsies

(footpatches). You can experiment on what suits you (and costings of

course), eg. each night of chelation and on redistribution nights

to minimise feet pains.

****If I do a footbath before bed, I sleep better during round, and

if I wake up with hot/itchy feet, 5 minutes in the clay footbath

relieves it too. I alternate between footsies and clay depending on

how I feel, and how busy I am (3 kids including one with severe

disabilities).

Neither of these modalities are part of Andy's protocol, but in my

case I find them a useful adjunct, I responded poorly to 8mg DMSA so

am using ALA only.

I tried doing saunas every round, but have dropped back to

fortnightly as they made me feel a bit off.

na

>

> So after taking ALA 3 cycles using andy's protocal, i started

having

> warm sensations on the back of my leg, bottom of foot, burning

patches.

>

> This has continued despite stopping the ALA, which was probably too

> high, 25mg.

>

> I recently started saunas because i seem to be very sensitive to

> anything i'm taking so i'm worried to start DMPS, DMSA or ALA

again.

> This is due to the crazy amount of food allergies, etc. that began

> while taking ALA.

>

> But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to cause

> these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i

know

> DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular

space,

> while ALA does intra-cellular.

>

> So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that help

> alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

>

> I'm really confused on this aspect of chelation and need some

> clarification.

>

> Thanks

> scott

>

[Guest guest]

So sauna is bad? I though regular sauna was fine.

K

>

> >

> > But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to

cause

> > these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i

know

> > DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular

space,

> > while ALA does intra-cellular.

> >

> > So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that

help

> > alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

>

>

> I'm afraid you might be making matters worse with the sauna,

effectively

> stirring metals up in the extracellular space and allowing that

little bit

> extra to cross over into the CNS (Central Nervous System) each

time.

> I think you are destined to really lower your dose of DMSA and ALA

to 5mg

> and chelate.

> You'll have to use ALA to get mercury out the CNS. It is the only

way.

> You might need adrenal support to calm the inflammation.

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

> So sauna is bad? I though regular sauna was fine.

>

> K

>

A sauna is fine.

The answer I gave was in context of the situation described.

Andy does not have a problem with saunas (except infra-red).

And you need to make sure your electrolytes are replaced and adrenals up for

the task.

If you take care of those points, then a sauna is a good way to remove

extra-cellular metals.

I personally prefer a steam room which is less 'drying'.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

>

> So after taking ALA 3 cycles using andy's protocal, i started having

> warm sensations on the back of my leg, bottom of foot, burning patches.

>

> This has continued despite stopping the ALA, which was probably too

> high, 25mg.

>

> I recently started saunas because i seem to be very sensitive to

> anything i'm taking so i'm worried to start DMPS, DMSA or ALA again.

> This is due to the crazy amount of food allergies, etc. that began

> while taking ALA.

>

> But here's my question. Where does the mercury have to be to cause

> these neurological symptoms? The reason i ask this is because i know

> DMPS, DMSA and sauna only get mercury out of exterior-cellular space,

> while ALA does intra-cellular.

I am not sure. I think it could be extracellular or intracellular.

When you try DMSA, symptoms will tell you whether there is

extracellular mercury.

> So by doing sauna, and possibly DMSA in the future, will that help

> alleviate the nuero symptoms? or does this need ALA?

I don't know how much " visible " progress you will make with DMSA

alone. However it is important to do this first. DMSA can only

move extracellular mercury, so as long as you use a low dose on

a safe protocol there is much less risk of making yourself worse

than if you used ALA.

After you do this, moving the intracellular mercury with ALA will

be safer because the extracellular part won't be a factor.

It may be slow. You need to be patient and stick with a low dose

for a few months. If you are lucky, your problem will begin to

clear with DMSA only.

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> I'm really confused on this aspect of chelation and need some

> clarification.

>

> Thanks

> scott

>