Metal taste - getting worse !!

[Guest guest]

I wonder if anyone has experienced this, or has an insight into what

might be going on with me?

I had no metal taste in my mouth while I had my 13 amalgams. This

only started when I was half way through amalgam removal, and came

and went, but I always associated it with worse symptoms - it seemed

to correspond with my body dumping mercury.

At the six month organ dump it became worse, and now, 16 post-amalgam

removal, it is here all the time, and is worse than ever. It causes

excess saliva, burning in my mouth, and spoils the taste of food. I

am chelating per Andy's protocol, and when I am on the right dose of

DMSA the taste goes away. When I am on too high a dose it gets

worse. As soon as I stop a round it comes roaring back. I feel

best on round, horrible off. I haven't started ALA yet.

My question is: why would this be getting worse, rather than better?

My theory is that pre and immediately post-amalgam removal, I had

retention toxicity, and couldn't detox the mercury very well, and so

the level of mercury leaving my body was not very high. Perhaps now,

after 16 months, my detox pathways have improved, and detox can take

place, hence the mercury is moving out, and hence the taste. This is

all I can think of. Could this be the case?

Quite frankly, it is concerning me, although I know that there is no

amalgam left in my mouth, left under any crowns etc. I was re-

exposed in the summer with dental work, which I detected from the

sudden rise in my symptoms on and off-round. That has all calmed

down again now. But this taste is driving me crazy....

any input gratefully received.

Nicola

[Guest guest]

I know you say you have no amalgam left in your mouth. I know I said

that too. It was about seven months after I had finished my dental

work and had been chelating since four days after that using DMSA and

later ALA following the Cutler protocols that I went in to have my

teeth cleaned at the office of my mercury free dentist. The hygienist

and I chatted. I spoke of being glad to be mercury free, etc. etc.

She informed me that I still had amalgam in my mouth. And she showed

it to me on the full mouth digital x-ray she had just taken of my

mouth. I was absolutely stunned and devastated. True, it was

" hidden " way up in the back on the gumline. And yeah, I had a lot of

the poison stuffed into a lot of my teeth. And the dentist really is a

good one (I believe that.) and worked through using all the protection

and going quadrant by quadrant based on the electrical measurements,

etc. etc. But still..... My dentist came and had a look and

sheepishly said he had missed it. Sorry.

I suffered so much in the previous months as I chelated along. I took

all the recommended stuff and tried all the other stuff that might

help. I had a Cutler protocol naturopath guiding me along. But I was

so sick during those months, much of the time I couldn't even drive.

I couldn't think. I couldn't accomplish anything. Looking back now,

the whole time is a fuzzy blur. It is as if I lost all those months.

So I guess what I am trying to say is that despite the fact that you

are amalgam free, you may not really be amalgam free. And that is

what might be causing your metallic taste. Maybe not. But it is

something to consider.

llamabb

>

> I wonder if anyone has experienced this, or has an insight into what

> might be going on with me?

>

> I had no metal taste in my mouth while I had my 13 amalgams. This

> only started when I was half way through amalgam removal, and came

> and went, but I always associated it with worse symptoms - it seemed

> to correspond with my body dumping mercury.

>

> At the six month organ dump it became worse, and now, 16 post-amalgam

> removal, it is here all the time, and is worse than ever. It causes

> excess saliva, burning in my mouth, and spoils the taste of food. I

> am chelating per Andy's protocol, and when I am on the right dose of

> DMSA the taste goes away. When I am on too high a dose it gets

> worse. As soon as I stop a round it comes roaring back. I feel

> best on round, horrible off. I haven't started ALA yet.

>

> My question is: why would this be getting worse, rather than better?

> My theory is that pre and immediately post-amalgam removal, I had

> retention toxicity, and couldn't detox the mercury very well, and so

> the level of mercury leaving my body was not very high. Perhaps now,

> after 16 months, my detox pathways have improved, and detox can take

> place, hence the mercury is moving out, and hence the taste. This is

> all I can think of. Could this be the case?

>

> Quite frankly, it is concerning me, although I know that there is no

> amalgam left in my mouth, left under any crowns etc. I was re-

> exposed in the summer with dental work, which I detected from the

> sudden rise in my symptoms on and off-round. That has all calmed

> down again now. But this taste is driving me crazy....

>

> any input gratefully received.

>

> Nicola

>

[Guest guest]

>>> And she showed

> it to me on the full mouth digital x-ray she had just taken of my

> mouth. I was absolutely stunned and devastated. True, it was

> " hidden " way up in the back on the gumline. And yeah, I had a lot of

> the poison stuffed into a lot of my teeth. And the dentist really is a

> good one (I believe that.) and worked through using all the protection

> and going quadrant by quadrant based on the electrical measurements,

> etc. etc. But still..... My dentist came and had a look and

> sheepishly said he had missed it. Sorry.

> llamabb

Good advise llamabb. The x-ray you talk of is a PANORAMIC x-ray (PAN). Here

is what they look like:

http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/pan.html

I now only advise that people begin chelation after having a PAN, and

checking under every old metal crown.

More times than not we have found mercury under old crowns (you can't see

through them on x-ray), or in an old extraction site, or as a mercury tattoo

in the gum.

It is simply not worth the risk.

I would like to see Andy's protocol updated to include this point as I have

seen some people suffer by not checking first.

It is almost as if we and the dentist go into denial when asked about what

is under the metal crown: 'I'm sure there is no amalgam under the crown'.

The truth 'You can never know until you look'.

And it is worth looking!

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

I have never had the metal taste return once all my amalgam were

removed. Even when I was dumping hard at the three month post

removal mark. Be sure there is NO metal left, no amalgam tattoos in

the gum/cheek etc. No nickel posts, no metal anywhere.

Stay on the lower doses that dont' cause this to be worse.

>

> I wonder if anyone has experienced this, or has an insight into

what

> might be going on with me?

>

> I had no metal taste in my mouth while I had my 13 amalgams. This

> only started when I was half way through amalgam removal, and came

> and went, but I always associated it with worse symptoms - it

seemed

> to correspond with my body dumping mercury.

>

> At the six month organ dump it became worse, and now, 16 post-

amalgam

> removal, it is here all the time, and is worse than ever. It

[Guest guest]

---Thanks Llamabb and Dean - useful and interesting advice.

I am always worried that the dentists have made a mistake and left

some amalgam in my mouth but they insist not.

I have a question though.

I have been chelating for 6 months with DMSA 25mgs every three hours.

If I had some amalgam left, wouldn't I feel much much worse than I do?

Wouldn't there be a really bad regression of symptoms or something?

In frequent-dose-chelation , " DeanNetwork "

wrote:

>

> >>> And she showed

> > it to me on the full mouth digital x-ray she had just taken of my

> > mouth. I was absolutely stunned and devastated. True, it was

> > " hidden " way up in the back on the gumline. And yeah, I had a lot of

> > the poison stuffed into a lot of my teeth. And the dentist really is a

> > good one (I believe that.) and worked through using all the protection

> > and going quadrant by quadrant based on the electrical measurements,

> > etc. etc. But still..... My dentist came and had a look and

> > sheepishly said he had missed it. Sorry.

> > llamabb

>

> Good advise llamabb. The x-ray you talk of is a PANORAMIC x-ray

(PAN). Here

> is what they look like:

> http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/pan.html

>

> I now only advise that people begin chelation after having a PAN, and

> checking under every old metal crown.

> More times than not we have found mercury under old crowns (you

can't see

> through them on x-ray), or in an old extraction site, or as a

mercury tattoo

> in the gum.

> It is simply not worth the risk.

> I would like to see Andy's protocol updated to include this point as

I have

> seen some people suffer by not checking first.

> It is almost as if we and the dentist go into denial when asked

about what

> is under the metal crown: 'I'm sure there is no amalgam under the

crown'.

> The truth 'You can never know until you look'.

> And it is worth looking!

> DeanSA

>

[Guest guest]

> If I had some amalgam left, wouldn't I feel much much worse than I do?

> Wouldn't there be a really bad regression of symptoms or something?

>

>

Hi ,

Although the general rule is that if you chelate with mercury still in place

you will feel a lot worse, I have heard from at least two people that felt

better when the chelated, only to find many months later that there was an

amalgam under a metal crown.

DeanSA

[Guest guest]

> If I had some amalgam left, wouldn't I feel much much worse than I do?

> Wouldn't there be a really bad regression of symptoms or something?

>

>

Hi ,

Although the general rule is that if you chelate with mercury still in place

you will feel a lot worse, I have heard from at least two people that felt

better when the chelated, only to find many months later that there was an

amalgam under a metal crown.

DeanSA