Re: Re: Day 3 no beta blockers!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Chris! I am excited, especially since my toes are not numb today! Do

you think it's too soon for the effects of the meds to be out of my system?

Or maybe it's just because of the timing of my cycle I'm a little more hyper

than the rest of the month and that is why?

I think it may be time to reduce my L-Carnatine a bit more too now that I

have the beta gone... hate to waste normal numbers on feeling hypo if you

know what I mean.

Have you started taking the hawethorne berry yourself yet? Let me know how

it goes when you do. I cut my beta back by 5mg at a time - took about a week

each time, and got into a bit of trouble when I tried to speed things up...

but it worked out ok anyway.

Good luck!

Pam B.

Diagnosed 12/01 (hyper with both graves and hashimotos ABs)

Mostly Alt Med - doing MUCH better. Numbers very close to normal and ABs

going away.

My story: http://www.webmosaics.com/thyroid/

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

[Guest guest]

Pam,

I've been looking in the archives for info on L-Carnatine and GD, haven't

found much. What is its effect?

Thanks,

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 09:51:57 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

> To: graves_support >

> Subject: Re: Re: Day 3 no beta blockers!

>

> reduce my L-Carnatine a bit more

[Guest guest]

>>> I've been looking in the archives for info on L-Carnatine and GD, haven

t

found much. What is its effect? <<<<

Hi Terry, L-Carnatine is great when you are hyper because it blocks the use

of T3 at the cell level. So you aren't using the T3 and you feel better. The

problem is that your Total T3 just sits around in your body with nothing to

do and your labs will NOT show how you are actually feeling -they wont match

up with your symptoms. IE. if you take too much for the amount of hyper you

are, you will feel hypo.

It helps fight depression, body builders use it, and I've even heard it

cures bels palsy.

Here is a link to some great info:

http://community.healthgate.com/GetContent

asp?siteid=iHerb&docid=/tnp/pg000204

Specifically for us:

" Hyperthyroidism

Enlargement of the thyroid (goiter) can be due to many causes, including

cancer and iodine deficiency. In some cases, thyroid enlargement occurs

without any known cause, so-called benign goiter.

Treatment of benign goiter generally consists of taking thyroid hormone

pills. This causes the thyroid gland to become less active, and the goiter

shrinks. However, there may be undesirable effects as well. Symptoms of

hyperthyroidism (too much thyroid hormone) can develop, including heart

palpitations, nervousness, weight loss, and bone breakdown.

A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial found evidence that use of

L-carnitine could alleviate many of these symptoms. This 6-month study

evaluated the effects of L-carnitine in 50 women who were taking thyroid

hormone for benign goiter.114 The results showed that a dose of 2 or 4 g of

carnitine daily protected participants' bones and reduced other symptoms of

hyperthyroidism.

Carnitine is thought to affect thyroid hormone by blocking its action in

cells.115 This suggests a potential concern: Carnitine might be harmful for

people who have low or borderline thyroid levels to begin with. This

possibility has not been well explored as yet. "

That link should answer most of your questions!

Pam B.

Diagnosed 12/01 (hyper with both graves and hashimotos ABs)

Mostly Alt Med - doing MUCH better. Numbers very close to normal and ABs

going away.

My story: http://www.webmosaics.com/thyroid/

If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible warning.

[Guest guest]

Hi Pam,

Couldn't get this link to work at all. Thanks for reprinting the content!

Terry

>

> Reply-To: graves_support

> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 2002 10:51:48 -0800 (Pacific Standard Time)

> To: graves_support >

> Subject: Re: Re: Day 3 no beta blockers!

>

>>

> Here is a link to some great info:

> http://community.healthgate.com/GetContent

> asp?siteid=iHerb&docid=/tnp/pg000204

>

> Specifically for us:

>

> " Hyperthyroidism

> Enlargement of the thyroid (goiter) can be due to many causes, including

> cancer and iodine deficiency. In some cases, thyroid enlargement occurs

> without any known cause, so-called benign goiter.

>

> Treatment of benign goiter generally consists of taking thyroid hormone

> pills. This causes the thyroid gland to become less active, and the goiter

> shrinks. However, there may be undesirable effects as well. Symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism (too much thyroid hormone) can develop, including heart

> palpitations, nervousness, weight loss, and bone breakdown.

>

> A double-blind, placebo-controlled trial found evidence that use of

> L-carnitine could alleviate many of these symptoms. This 6-month study

> evaluated the effects of L-carnitine in 50 women who were taking thyroid

> hormone for benign goiter.114 The results showed that a dose of 2 or 4 g of

> carnitine daily protected participants' bones and reduced other symptoms of

> hyperthyroidism.

>

> Carnitine is thought to affect thyroid hormone by blocking its action in

> cells.115 This suggests a potential concern: Carnitine might be harmful for

> people who have low or borderline thyroid levels to begin with. This

> possibility has not been well explored as yet. "

>

>

> That link should answer most of your questions!

>

> Pam B.

> Diagnosed 12/01 (hyper with both graves and hashimotos ABs)

> Mostly Alt Med - doing MUCH better. Numbers very close to normal and ABs

> going away.

> My story: http://www.webmosaics.com/thyroid/

>

> If you can't be a good example, then you'll just have to be a horrible

> warning.

>

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