Ending my fourth round of DMSA

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Last day of being on round of 25 mg DMSA per dose every 4 hours.

GI symptoms are a lot better. I got some Probiotic VSL#3. It's

worked good in the past. And this time I noticed signifcant

changes. A lot less gas, less achy feeling, more normal stools, in

all a lot better. Though perhaps the Arginine + Lysine helped as

well.

I'm pretty sure that the majority of brain fog has gone away. That

pressure behind the eyes isn't around much anymore either. I think

my body temperature is coming up some now, used to be pretty low.

Also see more color in my face. I'm also remembering my dreams more

than in the past and don't wake up feeling like I could sleep all day.

I'm looking forward to the ALA, but have to wait 2 more months now.

Not that much longer I suppose.

Curious as to what I should do for the next round. I could bump it

up more, from say 25 mg to 37.5 mg. Or I could start to make my time

on a dose be longer, by adding a couple of days or more to both the

on and off dose. Any thoughts as to which way to go?

Thanks,

Mike

>

> Done with the 3rd round. Have 1 more day of being off chelation

then

> start again on Thursday. So far nothing too much to report. GI

> still messed up, even more gassy. I've been taking Oregon Grape

> extract (Berberine), Ginger, Peppermint to help with that. Was

> taking Cinnamon and Garlic extracts for this as well. Just started

> with taking Arginine (6 g) and Lysine (2 g) per day between meals

to

> see if that might help as well.

>

> I'm trying to slowly wean from the low dose citalopram (an SSRI -

> taking for anxiety reduction) and low dose Amitryptyline (a

tricyclic

> antidepressant - taking for sleep purposes). But I'm thinking this

> might be a mistake. As the last few nights I've not slept well and

> today I have a brain fog type feeling. Sort of like pressure

behind

> my eyes and feeling tired.

>

> I'm going to up it to 25 mg per dose starting on Thursday for 3

days

> on and 3 days off. If I'm ok with that I'll see how long I can do

> that level for, perhaps shoot for 5 days or so on.

>

> Thanks,

> Mike

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> Curious as to what I should do for the next round. I could bump it

> up more, from say 25 mg to 37.5 mg. Or I could start to make my time

> on a dose be longer, by adding a couple of days or more to both the

> on and off dose. Any thoughts as to which way to go?

> Thanks,

> Mike

Hi Mike,

Keep low and go slow.

The general rule that I followed it that I would have 3 rounds of 'no

symptoms' before increasing the dose.

That could mean many rounds at the same dose until the symptoms vanished.

And these symptoms were mild in the first place, because I made sure the

dose was low enough not to cause too many problem.

The damage that can be done by increasing to fast is not worth it.

During my chelation I did make that mistake a few times.

You're still getting a lot of mercury out at the lower dose, and you are

doing it safely.

Side-effects also tend to come on with subsequent rounds at the same dose.

At the bare minimum I would do is three rounds on the same dose before

considering increasing it.

You are really looking at a minimum of 18 months chelation. So just take it

slow.

DeanSA

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Chicago Dean here agreeing with SA Dean that 3 rounds at a dose before going

up sounds like an excellent idea. It's hard to be patient, but in chelation

haste really does make waste. People who go too fast get side effects, have

to stop, wonder if they should start again, don't until they spend weeks or

months doing more research, etc. You really do go fast by going slow.

And yes, 18 months at least. I've heard from a doc experienced with Andy's

protocol that it's never taken him more than 4 years with even the worst

cases. And he starts out really low - 1 mg DMSA and 1 mg ALA to start.

With the most poisoned patients, one-tenth that dose.

Personally, I plan to chelate for the rest of my life (I'm 55) I had a

mouth full of amalgams for over 40 years, so even if I get to the point of

being asymptomatic, I believe there's probably plenty more mercury in my

body that would be better off out of there. After all, I only developed

symptoms a few years ago, so I must have been riddled with the stuff for

years before it became apparent. So symptom-free doesn't necessarily mean

mercury-free. Andy says to chelate 6 months after your symptoms are gone,

but I see no reason not to do a round every month or two on an ongoing

basis.

Dean

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Thanks Jackie and both Deans!

I am one of those folks who get impatient and go too hard at

something and either get hurt or burn out. So the talk to take it

easy is something I know I should listen to.

So round 5 will be at 25 mg again. Which is also good news as it

means no pill splitting. I'll see how the next round goes and if

it is good then I'll extend it from 3 to 5 or so days on and then the

same number off.

And to answer your question Jackie.

----------Glad you are seeing improvements. I'm not familiar with

VSL#3.

What company is it from, and what does it contain?-----------Jackie

This is the website where you can learn more and purchase it.

http://www.vsl3.com/VSL3/default.asp

This is one of the probiotics that is most used in studies on

probiotics and its effects on health. I had taken it once before

with good results, though it didn't seem to " take " and the bacteria

that was causing me issues came back. Thinking I have some motility

or other issue that's not helping my body keep the overgrowth at bay.

Anyway, thanks everyone for the advice.

Mike

>

> Chicago Dean here agreeing with SA Dean that 3 rounds at a dose

before going

> up sounds like an excellent idea. It's hard to be patient, but in

chelation

> haste really does make waste. People who go too fast get side

effects, have

> to stop, wonder if they should start again, don't until they spend

weeks or

> months doing more research, etc. You really do go fast by going

slow.

>

> And yes, 18 months at least. I've heard from a doc experienced

with Andy's

> protocol that it's never taken him more than 4 years with even the

worst

> cases. And he starts out really low - 1 mg DMSA and 1 mg ALA to

start.

> With the most poisoned patients, one-tenth that dose.

>

> Personally, I plan to chelate for the rest of my life (I'm 55) I

had a

> mouth full of amalgams for over 40 years, so even if I get to the

point of

> being asymptomatic, I believe there's probably plenty more mercury

in my

> body that would be better off out of there. After all, I only

developed

> symptoms a few years ago, so I must have been riddled with the

stuff for

> years before it became apparent. So symptom-free doesn't

necessarily mean

> mercury-free. Andy says to chelate 6 months after your symptoms

are gone,

> but I see no reason not to do a round every month or two on an

ongoing

> basis.

>

> Dean

>