Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making him react to the egg. The reason I ask is that (DS1) is allergic to egg and had anaphylactic shock to a tiny speck of meringue at 6 months old (yes, he had it by mistake, I hadn't planned to give him any at 6 months). He had a blood test at 11 months which showed his egg score was 6/6 so it couldn't get any higher. However over time, he has very occasionally had something containing egg with different reactions - sometimes sick, sometimes bad stomach ache and sometimes no reaction at all. Last November we took him back to the consultant (aged 3 3/4 - that is, not the consultant!), and they did another blood test as we hoped he was growing out of it and that we'd be able to stop carrying Epipens. Unfortunately his egg allergy still shows up as 6/6 so they won't even consider doing the egg challenge in hospital yet. It also showed that his peanut allergy had grown from 3/6 to 6/6 so we have to carry on with the Epipens. As Josh is obviously having some sort of nasty reaction, could you ask for the blood test when you see them next month? They can also test for a variety of other things, just in case. Hope all the creams, antibiotics, etc. help him feel better soon. Hannah Itchy and Scratchy Poor Josh is having a nightmare atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making him react to the egg. The reason I ask is that (DS1) is allergic to egg and had anaphylactic shock to a tiny speck of meringue at 6 months old (yes, he had it by mistake, I hadn't planned to give him any at 6 months). He had a blood test at 11 months which showed his egg score was 6/6 so it couldn't get any higher. However over time, he has very occasionally had something containing egg with different reactions - sometimes sick, sometimes bad stomach ache and sometimes no reaction at all. Last November we took him back to the consultant (aged 3 3/4 - that is, not the consultant!), and they did another blood test as we hoped he was growing out of it and that we'd be able to stop carrying Epipens. Unfortunately his egg allergy still shows up as 6/6 so they won't even consider doing the egg challenge in hospital yet. It also showed that his peanut allergy had grown from 3/6 to 6/6 so we have to carry on with the Epipens. As Josh is obviously having some sort of nasty reaction, could you ask for the blood test when you see them next month? They can also test for a variety of other things, just in case. Hope all the creams, antibiotics, etc. help him feel better soon. Hannah Itchy and Scratchy Poor Josh is having a nightmare atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making him react to the egg. The reason I ask is that (DS1) is allergic to egg and had anaphylactic shock to a tiny speck of meringue at 6 months old (yes, he had it by mistake, I hadn't planned to give him any at 6 months). He had a blood test at 11 months which showed his egg score was 6/6 so it couldn't get any higher. However over time, he has very occasionally had something containing egg with different reactions - sometimes sick, sometimes bad stomach ache and sometimes no reaction at all. Last November we took him back to the consultant (aged 3 3/4 - that is, not the consultant!), and they did another blood test as we hoped he was growing out of it and that we'd be able to stop carrying Epipens. Unfortunately his egg allergy still shows up as 6/6 so they won't even consider doing the egg challenge in hospital yet. It also showed that his peanut allergy had grown from 3/6 to 6/6 so we have to carry on with the Epipens. As Josh is obviously having some sort of nasty reaction, could you ask for the blood test when you see them next month? They can also test for a variety of other things, just in case. Hope all the creams, antibiotics, etc. help him feel better soon. Hannah Itchy and Scratchy Poor Josh is having a nightmare atm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I'm beginning to consider the blood test route as a strong possibility! We opted for the challenge initially because we all agreed (me, DH, paed) that it would be useful to see what would happen inside his mouth if he ate egg. I was almost convinced that the result would be an all clear, as he can eat cakes, biscuits and so on with no problem (though perhaps if I eliminated egg totally, his standard eczema would clear) Ho hum. Anyway, will see what Dr. Baxter thinks next month! I don't think we're likely to need an epipen as his reaction seems less immediate than that, though. Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a > blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over > and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making > him react to the egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I'm beginning to consider the blood test route as a strong possibility! We opted for the challenge initially because we all agreed (me, DH, paed) that it would be useful to see what would happen inside his mouth if he ate egg. I was almost convinced that the result would be an all clear, as he can eat cakes, biscuits and so on with no problem (though perhaps if I eliminated egg totally, his standard eczema would clear) Ho hum. Anyway, will see what Dr. Baxter thinks next month! I don't think we're likely to need an epipen as his reaction seems less immediate than that, though. Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a > blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over > and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making > him react to the egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I'm beginning to consider the blood test route as a strong possibility! We opted for the challenge initially because we all agreed (me, DH, paed) that it would be useful to see what would happen inside his mouth if he ate egg. I was almost convinced that the result would be an all clear, as he can eat cakes, biscuits and so on with no problem (though perhaps if I eliminated egg totally, his standard eczema would clear) Ho hum. Anyway, will see what Dr. Baxter thinks next month! I don't think we're likely to need an epipen as his reaction seems less immediate than that, though. Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Oh Vicki, poor Josh - it is a horrible worry. Did they suggest doing a > blood test on him? I know it's not very nice at all, but it's quick, over > and done with and should give you a result very quickly rather than making > him react to the egg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Vicky Can you let me know what homeopathic remedies you use for the excema? Joe's skin is getting worse and worse - and having seen how bad my friend's skin is after a lifetime of steroid cream i really don't want him to keep using it. i will go to a homeopath - but would like to know what works for you. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 We're using arsenica albicans 30c tablets - two taken three times a day for a week and then stop and wait and see for up to a month. Also dermatodoron cream (by Weleda), applied about 3 times a day - other people have used graphites cream but the chemist didn't happen to have any when I went in and the dermatodoron seems to be working really well. I'm also using diprobase emollient cream and diprobath emollient bath stuff. Get these on prescription if you can - they're expensive! I have used aqueous cream and emulsifying ointment in the past, but I find with my own skin - and Joshi's seems to be reflecting it - that you build up a resistance to moisturisers if you don't vary them. So we'll take a year or so off the aqueous and use diprobase instead - which has more soothing ingredients added and isn't just pure moisturiser like aqueous. I think you're right to avoid steroids. Apart from anything else, the skin builds a resistance to them. I find, when my psoriasis is in flare, that I can use steroids with enormous effectiveness for a fortnight - then with reducing effectiveness for a further fortnight, and then they actually make me worse after that. This is quite common, apparently, in people who've used them topically for a long time (since I was 13, in my case!) Also, I can no longer use them alone. In order to be any use at all for me, they have to be mixed with another treatment. At the moment, I'm using steroid + coal tar (which has carcinogenic implications for long-term use!). In extremis I will have to go for steroid + UV treatment (I'm very fair skinned, so don't relish this!). Fortunately, my skin is as smooth as a super-model's at the moment, relatively speaking, so it's not an issue! Other things I find useful are: not to use any soap. The only soap I've found that doesn't bring Josh or I up is the EFB one, which is why I sell it. I don't even use that, though! We wash with aqueous cream. I also don't use any perfumed bath products for myself or the kids, and no talc. And cotton next to the skin as often as possible - especially for pyjamas. Sorry if you knew all that already Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Can you let me know what homeopathic remedies you use for > the excema? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > I think you're right to avoid steroids. Apart from anything else, the skin > builds a resistance to them. Yes - i think this is already happening to Joe's skin. My friend's skin has thinned where he used the cream for such a long time. he is on a dairy-free diet at the moment and it is really helping control his excema. Thanks for all the info - I'll go armed with all this when I make an appointment. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > I think you're right to avoid steroids. Apart from anything else, the skin > builds a resistance to them. Yes - i think this is already happening to Joe's skin. My friend's skin has thinned where he used the cream for such a long time. he is on a dairy-free diet at the moment and it is really helping control his excema. Thanks for all the info - I'll go armed with all this when I make an appointment. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > I think you're right to avoid steroids. Apart from anything else, the skin > builds a resistance to them. Yes - i think this is already happening to Joe's skin. My friend's skin has thinned where he used the cream for such a long time. he is on a dairy-free diet at the moment and it is really helping control his excema. Thanks for all the info - I'll go armed with all this when I make an appointment. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I hadn't heard of the oatmeal idea - thanks, I'll try that! Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Also when really bad oatmeal baths. Put Organic Porridge oats in a sock and soak in a bath - then immerse child for at least 10 mins. Interestingly since she started her 'dirty protest' her eczema has improved no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I hadn't heard of the oatmeal idea - thanks, I'll try that! Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > Also when really bad oatmeal baths. Put Organic Porridge oats in a sock and soak in a bath - then immerse child for at least 10 mins. Interestingly since she started her 'dirty protest' her eczema has improved no end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Oh, poor DS. No real suggestions, I'm afraid. My DS had eczema really bad as a baby - now its OK but still needs dollops of cream twice a day. We use Aveeno most of the time, an easy to spread, pleasant smelling oatmeal based cream(on prescription as we get through a tube every 10days sometimes and its about £7 a tube). When it's at its worse we use Epaderm (big tub of lard - also on prescription at about £25 a tub - lasts about 3 weeks if we're using it twice a day) plus always dabbing cortisone cream on the red spots as they come and go on a nearly daily basis. We were able to use baby scratch mitts on him, day and night (luckily he was born in the winter) when it was at its worse. Have you got the Cotton Comfort catalogue (www.purecottoncomfort.com) - pricey but mitts/seamless PJs in all kids sizes (not much fun in Summer tho') Todman Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5) Mum to , 3½ > Poor Josh is having a nightmare atm. We've always known he's allergic to > egg - gave him an omlette at about 1yr and just touching it to his face > brought his face and hands out in huge red welts immediately so we Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 >My DS had eczema really bad as a baby - now its OK but still needs >dollops of cream twice a day. We use Aveeno most of the time, an easy >to spread, pleasant smelling oatmeal based cream(on prescription as we >get through a tube every 10days sometimes and its about £7 a tube). > Todman I've just discovered this and am currently using it as my moisturiser.... might try getting it on script... I also use the Aderma range which is great but only available in large Boots (or the wellbeing.com website) Their Exomega cream is fab for dry itchy eczema. (costs about £10 tube though) I also discovered in Boots a mousse made by Proderm (the people who do the mousse sun cream) which is for Eczema and dermatitis and while not very moisturising ( I use it with the Aveeno) had cleared up my face form looking like a bad burn case (I joke not). Its bee a godsend as I can;t use Hydrocortisone atm.(and don;t like doing so anyway unless things are **terrible** Angi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > I also discovered in Boots a mousse made by Proderm (the people who do > the mousse sun cream) which is for Eczema and dermatitis and while not > very moisturising ( I use it with the Aveeno) had cleared up my face > form looking like a bad burn case (I joke not). What is this called? Might go into Boots tommorrow - my cheeks are worse than ever - the hormones have really dried out my skin and made it so itchy! > Its bee a godsend as I can;t use Hydrocortisone atm.(and don;t like > doing so anyway unless things are **terrible** A good excuse not to put it on Joe's skin then. We've been using Aloe Propolis cream this week on him - and it seems to be a bit calmer today. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 --- > > >> I also discovered in Boots a mousse made by Proderm (the >people who do >> the mousse sun cream) which is for Eczema and dermatitis >>What is this called? Might go into Boots tommorrow - my cheeks >are worse than ever ->Caroline It's just labelled " Proderm dermatalogical mousse treats and prevents Eczema and dermatitis Clinically proven effective treatment for itching, red and flaking skin " Zeon Heathcare 01608730805 enquiries@... hth its in a small aerosol can 4 or 5 inchs high! Angi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Caroline wrote: We've been using > Aloe Propolis cream this week on him - and it seems to be a bit > calmer today.>>>>>>>>> Thats what I use on DS1 when his excema flares up - which (touch wood) is not very often at the moment. It is quite expensive but worth while. Trisha SAHM to 3 boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Caroline wrote We've been using > Aloe Propolis cream this week on him - and it seems to be a bit > calmer today.>>>>> I should also have said that they make a sun cream as well - main ingredient is Aloe Vera - not tried it but was told about it at the weekend. It is about the same price as the cream. Trisha SAHM to 3 boys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 > I should also have said that they make a sun cream as well - main > ingredient is Aloe Vera - not tried it but was told about it at the > weekend. It is about the same price as the cream. I have been using Proderma sun mousse on him - but this might be causing the problem - I'll ask my Aloe Vera supplier about this. Caroline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 Vicki, you have my sympathy! (((Josh))) too! Anneliese and Toddler Tim who loves banana-flavoured antibiotics Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I use the Aloe Vera sun cream and find it very good -factor 15 none of us have burnt and girls go a beautiful color Caroline Jersey > > I should also have said that they make a sun cream as well - main > ingredient is Aloe Vera - not tried it but was told about it at the > weekend. It is about the same price as the cream. > > Trisha > SAHM to 3 boys > Jersey, British Isles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2001 Report Share Posted July 10, 2001 I use the Aloe Vera sun cream and find it very good -factor 15 none of us have burnt and girls go a beautiful color Caroline Jersey > > I should also have said that they make a sun cream as well - main > ingredient is Aloe Vera - not tried it but was told about it at the > weekend. It is about the same price as the cream. > > Trisha > SAHM to 3 boys > Jersey, British Isles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2001 Report Share Posted July 11, 2001 Thanks for this, - I knew they existed, but not where to find them! Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk Have you got the Cotton Comfort catalogue (www.purecottoncomfort.com) - pricey but mitts/seamless PJs in all kids sizes (not much fun in Summer tho') Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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