Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Adrenal stress? I get this when my adrenal support is not high enough or I forgot to take it. My adrenals are always worse on a round and for a day or two after. But it feels tight in your breastbone area, and you break out in sweat or get a hot flushed feeling sometimes. Look into adrenal support... The need to tighten muscles is sort of an uneasy why can't I stop moving my muscles feeling? More magnesium can help that, calcium too. Any other supplements? Check Andy's list for chelation, you should at least take some C. > > Hello Everyone, > > The last couple of weeks I've been experiencing a kind of tightness in > my chest around the heart/throat area. It's very non-specific, and I > would rather use the words " discomfort " , " pressure " or " tightness " than > " pain " . It comes and goes, but typically I have a few bouts of it in the > evening. It becomes especially noticeable when I go to bed. I feel a > very strong need to tighten/relax my muscles in my legs and arms, > perhaps to distract me from the discomfort in the chest. Usually I also > feel very warm when this happens, but not always. > > Does anyone recognize these types of symptoms? > > I've done 10 rounds of 1 week on, 1 week off of 100 mg ALA every > three/four hours about a year ago. Then about a month ago I started some > chelation again. I've now gone down to 50 mg of ALA every three/four > hours. Today I stopped my latest round of 50 mg ALA because the feeling > in my chest frightened me. Unfortunately, it does not promptly go away > just because I stop taking ALA. The first incident about a week ago came > the day after I finished a round of 100 mg ALA. I know these doses are > quite high, and I might go down every further in coming rounds (perhaps > 12.5-25 mg). > > I have been supplementing with 3-4 x 1 tbsp of flax oil every day since > about two weeks ago. I've also been taking magnesium. Yesterday I added > vitamin E and Q-10 in the hopes of relieving my chest symptoms. I've > also ordered arginine, but it has not arrived yet. > > Any tips/comments on how to handle this are highly appreciated. > > Finkle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Adrenal stress? I get this when my adrenal support is not high enough or I forgot to take it. My adrenals are always worse on a round and for a day or two after. But it feels tight in your breastbone area, and you break out in sweat or get a hot flushed feeling sometimes. Look into adrenal support... The need to tighten muscles is sort of an uneasy why can't I stop moving my muscles feeling? More magnesium can help that, calcium too. Any other supplements? Check Andy's list for chelation, you should at least take some C. > > Hello Everyone, > > The last couple of weeks I've been experiencing a kind of tightness in > my chest around the heart/throat area. It's very non-specific, and I > would rather use the words " discomfort " , " pressure " or " tightness " than > " pain " . It comes and goes, but typically I have a few bouts of it in the > evening. It becomes especially noticeable when I go to bed. I feel a > very strong need to tighten/relax my muscles in my legs and arms, > perhaps to distract me from the discomfort in the chest. Usually I also > feel very warm when this happens, but not always. > > Does anyone recognize these types of symptoms? > > I've done 10 rounds of 1 week on, 1 week off of 100 mg ALA every > three/four hours about a year ago. Then about a month ago I started some > chelation again. I've now gone down to 50 mg of ALA every three/four > hours. Today I stopped my latest round of 50 mg ALA because the feeling > in my chest frightened me. Unfortunately, it does not promptly go away > just because I stop taking ALA. The first incident about a week ago came > the day after I finished a round of 100 mg ALA. I know these doses are > quite high, and I might go down every further in coming rounds (perhaps > 12.5-25 mg). > > I have been supplementing with 3-4 x 1 tbsp of flax oil every day since > about two weeks ago. I've also been taking magnesium. Yesterday I added > vitamin E and Q-10 in the hopes of relieving my chest symptoms. I've > also ordered arginine, but it has not arrived yet. > > Any tips/comments on how to handle this are highly appreciated. > > Finkle > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Finkle: Your symptoms sound somewhat like those that led me to chelation in the first place. I had a feeling like a steel belt around my chest; it was impossible for me to take a deep breath. I also felt a discomfort at the base of my throat, sort of just above my sternum, almost as if someone put their thumbs there and was pressing. As you say, more of a discomfort, pressure, tightness than anything very specific. Associated with that was asthma (which I still have), not so bad that I need to take drugs for it, but there nevertheless. It's gotten much better with chelation, but I still have a ways to go. It seems very probable to me that you just overdid it with chelation. It seems that the way to undo the side effects of overdone/incorrectly done chelation is proper and sensible chelation. You might try a round with 12.5 mg ala every 2.5 h or so and see if that helps. Dean In frequent-dose-chelation , finklemcgraw Hello Everyone, The last couple of weeks I've been experiencing a kind of tightness in my chest around the heart/throat area. It's very non-specific, and I would rather use the words " discomfort " , " pressure " or " tightness " than " pain " . It comes and goes, but typically I have a few bouts of it in the evening. It becomes especially noticeable when I go to bed. I feel a very strong need to tighten/relax my muscles in my legs and arms, perhaps to distract me from the discomfort in the chest. Usually I also feel very warm when this happens, but not always. Does anyone recognize these types of symptoms? I've done 10 rounds of 1 week on, 1 week off of 100 mg ALA every three/four hours about a year ago. Then about a month ago I started some chelation again. I've now gone down to 50 mg of ALA every three/four hours. Today I stopped my latest round of 50 mg ALA because the feeling in my chest frightened me. Unfortunately, it does not promptly go away just because I stop taking ALA. The first incident about a week ago came the day after I finished a round of 100 mg ALA. I know these doses are quite high, and I might go down every further in coming rounds (perhaps 12.5-25 mg). I have been supplementing with 3-4 x 1 tbsp of flax oil every day since about two weeks ago. I've also been taking magnesium. Yesterday I added vitamin E and Q-10 in the hopes of relieving my chest symptoms. I've also ordered arginine, but it has not arrived yet. Any tips/comments on how to handle this are highly appreciated. Finkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I have also had this recently. I have been aware of breathing, especially out, and it has felt forced - almost 'air hunger'. I also developed weird chest pains in the heart area, although my doctor said it wasn't angina. My adrenals have also been very stressed, so this could be a cause. I have been supplementing heavily with Coenzyme Q10 and magnesium, and the chest pains and breathing difficulties have all but gone after a week. Try adrenal support? Coenzyme 10? Best Nicola -- In frequent-dose-chelation , " Jada " wrote: > > Adrenal stress? I get this when my adrenal support is not high enough > or I forgot to take it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dean: > Your symptoms sound somewhat like those that led me to chelation in the > first place. I had a feeling like a steel belt around my chest; it was > impossible for me to take a deep breath. I also felt a discomfort at the > base of my throat, sort of just above my sternum, almost as if someone put > their thumbs there and was pressing. As you say, more of a discomfort, > pressure, tightness than anything very specific. Associated with that was > asthma (which I still have), not so bad that I need to take drugs for it, > but there nevertheless. It's gotten much better with chelation, but I still > have a ways to go. Have you found any special set of supplements helping this condition? -- Finkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Nicola: > My adrenals have also been very stressed, so this could be a cause. I > have been supplementing heavily with Coenzyme Q10 and magnesium, and > the chest pains and breathing difficulties have all but gone after a > week. Interesting. When you say " supplementing heaviliy " , how much do you mean? 200 mg Q10? 1000 mg Mg? -- Finkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Nothing helped much Finkle, although tincture of slippery elm did help some. The only thing that's really helped is chelating. Dean In frequent-dose-chelation , finklemcgraw wrote: Have you found any special set of supplements helping this condition? -- Finkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Are you taking anything which stimulates thyroid? Thyroid meds? Tyrosine? Iodine? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 , > Are you taking anything which stimulates thyroid? Thyroid meds? Tyrosine? Iodine? No, I'm not taking anything related to thyroid. -- Finkle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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