Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 I've used it before but had to stop because it has a strong cortisol lowering effect on me and made my adrenal fatigue worse. It helped with sleeping though. There's a collection of posts on melatonin by Cutler and others here: http://onibasu.com/wiki/Melatonin Jay > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 I've used it before but had to stop because it has a strong cortisol lowering effect on me and made my adrenal fatigue worse. It helped with sleeping though. There's a collection of posts on melatonin by Cutler and others here: http://onibasu.com/wiki/Melatonin Jay > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 I've used it before but had to stop because it has a strong cortisol lowering effect on me and made my adrenal fatigue worse. It helped with sleeping though. There's a collection of posts on melatonin by Cutler and others here: http://onibasu.com/wiki/Melatonin Jay > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 Hi I have had bad insomnia (waking uup at 1;30-2:30 for a few hrs) for almost 5 years. I think this was the beginning of my bad health cycle. I had tried every medication, lunesta, ambien, klonoprin and a few others..not much help (thiswas before amalagam removal) I then tried melatonin per AI and eureka it helped..not 100% I would still wake up but it would be a dozzy sort of wakeup and I would go back to sleep. I was trying 10-15 mgs a night (1 hr before bed). I tried to vary this with time release melatonin per AI and ) but this does not seem to work any better..All of this was BC (before chelation) During chelation (last 2.5 months)I noticed it not helping as much. However last two nights I have gone back to klonoprin (clozepan) per 's recommendation's and I have slept though until 4:30 (6.5 hrs) and today i sort of dozed back to sleep until 8:00 am so maybe the drugs work better after the mercury has been removed from your mouth and maybe even better once I start on ala to remove it from my head Good luck > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 sorry just to clarify, I have stayed on the melatonin for the last 5 months (first thing i tried when i became aware of AI).. I am right now, 9-12 mgs of melatonin and I am again trying 4 mgs of time released melatonin and the klonoprin (.5mgs of clonozepam) michael > > > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone > used > > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > THanks . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2008 Report Share Posted February 9, 2008 In frequent-dose-chelation robertdavies14 wrote: AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used it and to what effect. ----------I have taken it off and on, and I think it helps. It is also a very good antioxidant, so not a bad thing to take anyway. And I don't know if my sleep problems would be considered insomnia or not. I'm more prone to feel best at night and want to stay up late, but then when I do fall asleep, I usually stay asleep and sleep fine, so not sure if its the same thing. It's more like my clock is messed up. But anyway, the melatonin is probably worth a try.--------Jackie Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can help.---Jackie THanks . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 , I've also had problems in this area. I've taken the majority of my calcium/magnesium at night to help with it. Like you, I wake up at midnight - two a.m. pretty much every night. Although, I have noticed a change for the better in that I've at least slept through the night on more than a few occasions. In other words, I am s-l-o-w-l-y progressing towards a more healthier sleep cycle. My sleep problems started around the time of amalgam placement ( among other stressors), and I'm hoping the more of this poison I get out of my brain, the more I'll have more restful sleep. I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that this will be your case, too. Unless, of course, you had sleep problems prior to amalgam placement. Best, Robyn ~~~~~~~~~~ In frequent-dose- chelation@ yahoogroups. com robertdavies14 wrote: AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used it and to what effect. ----------I have taken it off and on, and I think it helps. It is also a very good antioxidant, so not a bad thing to take anyway. And I don't know if my sleep problems would be considered insomnia or not. I'm more prone to feel best at night and want to stay up late, but then when I do fall asleep, I usually stay asleep and sleep fine, so not sure if its the same thing. It's more like my clock is messed up. But anyway, the melatonin is probably worth a try.-------- Jackie Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can help.---Jackie --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 , I've also had problems in this area. I've taken the majority of my calcium/magnesium at night to help with it. Like you, I wake up at midnight - two a.m. pretty much every night. Although, I have noticed a change for the better in that I've at least slept through the night on more than a few occasions. In other words, I am s-l-o-w-l-y progressing towards a more healthier sleep cycle. My sleep problems started around the time of amalgam placement ( among other stressors), and I'm hoping the more of this poison I get out of my brain, the more I'll have more restful sleep. I don't know, but I'm willing to bet that this will be your case, too. Unless, of course, you had sleep problems prior to amalgam placement. Best, Robyn ~~~~~~~~~~ In frequent-dose- chelation@ yahoogroups. com robertdavies14 wrote: AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used it and to what effect. ----------I have taken it off and on, and I think it helps. It is also a very good antioxidant, so not a bad thing to take anyway. And I don't know if my sleep problems would be considered insomnia or not. I'm more prone to feel best at night and want to stay up late, but then when I do fall asleep, I usually stay asleep and sleep fine, so not sure if its the same thing. It's more like my clock is messed up. But anyway, the melatonin is probably worth a try.-------- Jackie Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can help.---Jackie --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 > Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on > getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex > hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or > taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is > pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a > number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are > valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in > AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can > help.---Jackie Here some extra tips for insomnia and sleep problems. I find a combination works well. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/insomnia.html The most effective combination for me is an Epsom salts bath, 6 capsules of ornithine, and some tryptophan if I wake at night. Also, protein before bed does the trick. Thanks, DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 > Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on > getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex > hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or > taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is > pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a > number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are > valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in > AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can > help.---Jackie Here some extra tips for insomnia and sleep problems. I find a combination works well. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/insomnia.html The most effective combination for me is an Epsom salts bath, 6 capsules of ornithine, and some tryptophan if I wake at night. Also, protein before bed does the trick. Thanks, DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 > Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > ---------I think one thing that has helped alot for me is working on > getting my hormones balanced, and not just adrenal and thyroid, sex > hormones too. I think I recall some people saying taking magnesium and/or > taurine at bedtime helped, like the product called Natural Calm, which is > pure magnesium citrate, that you drink like a tea. There are also a > number of herbs that are calming/relaxing that might help too. Some are > valerian, hops, passionflower, etc., and others, and some are listed in > AI. And of course avoiding caffeine, especially late in the day, can > help.---Jackie Here some extra tips for insomnia and sleep problems. I find a combination works well. http://www.livingnetwork.co.za/healingnetwork/insomnia.html The most effective combination for me is an Epsom salts bath, 6 capsules of ornithine, and some tryptophan if I wake at night. Also, protein before bed does the trick. Thanks, DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Our experience with melatonin: I have one kid who can't sleep without it. Has taken it every night for two years now. She has done 20 rounds, and has serious adrenal problems. Probably worse than mine. The other had to use it occasionally on rounds in the beginning of chelation because the dmsa was keeping him up. I had to use it in the beginning of chelation for the same reason. I did find that when I treated my adrenal problem, I was able for the first time in years to fall asleep in under 20 minutes and stay asleep till morning. I always has bad insomnia and woke at night..had a hard time getting to sleep. That was without the melatonin. So for me dealing with adrenals had a huge factor in my sleep problems. This is post removal. Pre-removal I was one of those people who stayed up all the wee hours of the night. Everyone else in the house would be asleep...not me. I would spend hours laying in bed...trying to fall asleep. Now I go to bed and am out in less than 20 minutes. As chelation goes on, the sleep issues improve. The melatonin helps most people. Addressing endocrine problems too. > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone > used > > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > THanks . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Our experience with melatonin: I have one kid who can't sleep without it. Has taken it every night for two years now. She has done 20 rounds, and has serious adrenal problems. Probably worse than mine. The other had to use it occasionally on rounds in the beginning of chelation because the dmsa was keeping him up. I had to use it in the beginning of chelation for the same reason. I did find that when I treated my adrenal problem, I was able for the first time in years to fall asleep in under 20 minutes and stay asleep till morning. I always has bad insomnia and woke at night..had a hard time getting to sleep. That was without the melatonin. So for me dealing with adrenals had a huge factor in my sleep problems. This is post removal. Pre-removal I was one of those people who stayed up all the wee hours of the night. Everyone else in the house would be asleep...not me. I would spend hours laying in bed...trying to fall asleep. Now I go to bed and am out in less than 20 minutes. As chelation goes on, the sleep issues improve. The melatonin helps most people. Addressing endocrine problems too. > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone > used > > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > > THanks . > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 , et al. Here are my thoughts on insomnia and the things that have worked for me: 1. Sugar: I tend to have high blood sugar. When my sugar is high I cant fall asleep or stay asleep. After I switched to a paleo diet, my sleeping patterns improved a *BUCH*. 2. Junk Food: Same as above. I was eating allot of processed food and after I realized some of the stuff I ate had MSG and other gunk, I was able to sleep better by cutting it out of my diet. 3. Oxygenation: The quality of my sleep also improved dramatically when I started to do breathing exercises for 45min, 1 hour before bedtime. It help with my sleep apnea some. One day I felt so ill I had to borrow an oxygen tank from my elderly neighbor (he remarked how I looked way worst than him.) I used the oxygen tank during the night and slept like a baby. 4. Indoor air quality: Because I can't do much I tend to stay home for long periods of time. One day it dawned on me that I hadn't opened the windows in my house for a long time. I had a doohickey I bought at a health food store to measure indoor air quality and the test showed it was poor. I started to open the windows in my house every day and my sleep improved. 5. Weight loss: In the 3-4 years I've had my amalgams out, I've lost about 30 to 40 pounds and my sleep has improved. When I gain weigh I don't sleep so well. 6. Super Juice: I kid you not, this has improved my sleep and quality of life *DRAMATICALLY*. I got a juicer from the Salvation Army and... WOW!. I make the following juice: 3 red beets, 15 sticks of carrots, 2 oz of wheatgrass juice, 3 green apples, 1oz of Flaxseed oil. I drink 3 glasses a day: Morning, noon, and before I go to bed. After about 3 days I start to feel really good and I sleep very well. If you have high blood sugar, modify the apples and carrots content until you find a good compromise. Having a juicer had changed my life. I can tell the difference between the days I juice and the days I don't. There are books that highlight the nutrient content on different fruits and vegetables. I usually juice the high nutrient density kind and it pays off. 7. Adrenal Cortex Extract: After reading here about the positive results with ACE from list members, I decided to save and buy me a bottle. It has helped a bunch. Some people report problems with sleep while taking it, but for me it had the opposite effect: I helped with the quality of sleep. 8. Pollution: I work downtown in a major metropolitan city, and live in the country. Because of illness I'm only able to work 2, sometimes 3, days a week. I used to go out for lunch to a near by health food store. The walk lasted about 15 min. each way. Oh, boy! by the time I got there I felt *ILL*. All the mercury exposure symptoms would come back. By the time I returned from lunch to my workplace I would feel very crappy. During the 2-3 days I worked my sleep was *CRAP*, and spent the rest of the week healing from it. It took me a while to realize that the 30 min. walk in heavy downtown pollution was making me sick again. I stop going out for lunch and my sleep/overall health returned. 9. Chelation: The more I chelate the better I sleep. The golden days of the perfect night sleep are a distant memory. Doing all the things in this list doesn't guarantee a good night sleep, however the more things I do, the better my chances of peaceful rest. Cheers, Vince. On Sat, 09 Feb 2008 10:00:48 -0000 " robertdavies14 " robertdavies14@...> wrote: > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 Melatonin can work, but most people I've heard from had problems with it. Many people get worsened or new depression from it. Many times it won't give an entire night's sleep. In that case an immediate release and extended release taken together works. But again, lots of people feel bad the next day after melatonin. Other things to consider, along with the excellent tips that have already been shared by others: 5htp 10mg-25mg (you'll have to empty out 50mg capsules). 5htp converts to serotonin and then some of that to melatonin, but at the body's own natural rate. For me and many people this can provide a good deep sleep with lots of dreaming activity. Valerian root. This herb works similar, though much less potent, as xanax, klonopin, and other benzodiazepines. I like Valerian once in a while at 100mg (1/2 dose) when I just want to catch up on a good night of sleep. Other helpful herbs include Passionflower, Skullcap, and Lemon Balm. Chamomile is popular in Europe for insomnia. Like melatonin though, it makes people who are prone to depression more depressed sometimes. The prescription med Lunesta works good with low potential for poopout, tolerance or addiction. Especially if you use it once every 2 or 3 nights instead of every night. Many antidepressants are quite sedating. Very tiny doses of things like remeron (7.5mg), amitriptyline (5mg-10mg), or the antipsychotic seroquel (10mg-25mg) (therapeutic doses are 400mg)...these things will knock you out for a deep sleep. The natural substance GABA helps some people, as do similar things such as glycine or magnesium. > > AI recommends using melatonin for insomnia problems. Has anyone used > it and to what effect. Does anyone have any other tips for insomnia? > THanks . > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 11, 2008 Report Share Posted February 11, 2008 > Melatonin can work, but most people I've heard from had problems > with it. Many people get worsened or new depression from it. Many > times it won't give an entire night's sleep. In that case an > immediate release and extended release taken together works. But > again, lots of people feel bad the next day after melatonin. Dr Teitelbaum has an interesting comments about the dose of melatonin. He says the body makes in the order 0.5mg per day, and so he doses within that level so has to allow the body some control over its production and level. Just like with dosing HC under 20mg. He would then combine other natural remedies and drugs if need be, preferring to use many combinations of low doses, rather than high doses of one option. Tryptophan or 5-HTP would allow the body more control over melatonin production. A good thing in my opinion. Rather dose hormones way up the chain if you can, rather than down the chain. e.g. rather use fish oils or pregnenolone for adrenals. If you get no response then move toward HC and DHEA. Thanks, DeanSA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I was afraid to take 2 mg of melotonin, then I read on here that people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? IF 1mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all night, should I try 3 mg? > > I have just discovered the joy of getting a full nights sleep, every > night (I was a can't get to sleep kind) through the use of 9-10mgs of > melatonin a night. Prior to that I had tried up to 6 mgs with no > effect. n did nothing and the epsom salts and magnesium (which > like to mess up my gut) were unreliable. I think tryptophan has been > banned in the US... not sure about Canada where I am now. > > I am disappointed in hearing that melatonin supresses cortisol, but I > am going to keep going like this for while... > > THis list is invaluable > > deborah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 I was afraid to take 2 mg of melotonin, then I read on here that people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? IF 1mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all night, should I try 3 mg? > > I have just discovered the joy of getting a full nights sleep, every > night (I was a can't get to sleep kind) through the use of 9-10mgs of > melatonin a night. Prior to that I had tried up to 6 mgs with no > effect. n did nothing and the epsom salts and magnesium (which > like to mess up my gut) were unreliable. I think tryptophan has been > banned in the US... not sure about Canada where I am now. > > I am disappointed in hearing that melatonin supresses cortisol, but I > am going to keep going like this for while... > > THis list is invaluable > > deborah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 > > I was afraid to take 2 mg of melotonin, then I read on here that > people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? > IF 1mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all > night, should I try 3 mg? I would try some time-released melatonin with the regular stuff. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 > > I was afraid to take 2 mg of melotonin, then I read on here that > people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? > IF 1mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all > night, should I try 3 mg? I would try some time-released melatonin with the regular stuff. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 > > >I was afraid to take 2 mg of melatonin, then I read on here that > >people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? > >IF 1 mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all > >night, should I try 3 mg? > > I read on this list of people taking up to 20mg melatonin although now > there seems to be some dispute about it. However, all the > conventional sources say up to 5mg. So I think you would be safe to go > to 3mg > > deborah > In general, I think people's dosing of supplements varies, and the only way you really find out your own appropriate dose is by trial and error. I personally find it best to start with smaller amounts and increase slowly in case there is a reaction. If you do okay then you can work up gradually. When considering advice from conventional sources, remember that mercury toxic people often do not have conventional needs. I benefit from 2-3 mg doses of melatonin, but some people do need a lot more. -- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I guess melatonin dose is individual, and people should take what works for them. I will just pass on that my hormone specialist, Thierry Hertoghe, said that sublingual works best, and that anything over 1.5mg is a horses' dose!! The thing to remember is that it drives down cortisol, so those with weak adrenals may have problems with adrenalin surges and hypoglycemia in the middle of the night. For that reason, I can't go near it.... :-(( Best Nicola > > >I was afraid to take 2 mg of melatonin, then I read on here that > >people take 6-10 mg. Is there such a thing of taking too much of it? > >IF 1 mg doesn't do it and 2 mg helps a lot but not to stay asleep all > >night, should I try 3 mg? > > I read on this list of people taking up to 20mg melatonin although now > there seems to be some dispute about it. However, all the > conventional sources say up to 5mg. So I think you would be safe to go > to 3mg > > deborah > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 I have just discovered the joy of getting a full nights sleep, every night (I was a can't get to sleep kind) through the use of 9-10mgs of melatonin a night. Prior to that I had tried up to 6 mgs with no effect. n did nothing and the epsom salts and magnesium (which like to mess up my gut) were unreliable. I think tryptophan has been banned in the US... not sure about Canada where I am now. tryptophan was banned in the US years ago after some bad batches killed some people. But the last few years its back on the market and available at many online health food/vitamin suppliers, I have bought it easily now. Its not a great cure for me at this point. I have an appointment to get my last HUGE amalgam out in 2 wks and also take off some cheap scary metal (what my dentist calls them) crowns that are directly above and next to that mercury tooth, and replace it all with 3 crowns of the same materials. No chelating for me yet. Marcia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 > > I have just discovered the joy of getting a full nights sleep, every > night (I was a can't get to sleep kind) through the use of 9- 10mgs of > melatonin a night. Prior to that I had tried up to 6 mgs with no > effect. n did nothing and the epsom salts and magnesium (which > like to mess up my gut) were unreliable. I think tryptophan has been > banned in the US... not sure about Canada where I am now. > > > > tryptophan was banned in the US years ago after some bad batches killed some people. But the last few years its back on the market and available at many online health food/vitamin suppliers, I have bought it easily now. Its not a great cure for me at this point. I have an appointment to get my last HUGE amalgam out in 2 wks and also take off some cheap scary metal (what my dentist calls them) crowns that are directly above and next to that mercury tooth, and replace it all with 3 crowns of the same materials. No chelating for me yet. > > Marcia > I also have great trouble sleeping, however I did find that valerian did help. In the UK there is a company called Lane's who do a valerian with other herbs, though you do need to take them throughout the daytime as well as before going to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2008 Report Share Posted February 14, 2008 > > I have just discovered the joy of getting a full nights sleep, every > night (I was a can't get to sleep kind) through the use of 9- 10mgs of > melatonin a night. Prior to that I had tried up to 6 mgs with no > effect. n did nothing and the epsom salts and magnesium (which > like to mess up my gut) were unreliable. I think tryptophan has been > banned in the US... not sure about Canada where I am now. > > > > tryptophan was banned in the US years ago after some bad batches killed some people. But the last few years its back on the market and available at many online health food/vitamin suppliers, I have bought it easily now. Its not a great cure for me at this point. I have an appointment to get my last HUGE amalgam out in 2 wks and also take off some cheap scary metal (what my dentist calls them) crowns that are directly above and next to that mercury tooth, and replace it all with 3 crowns of the same materials. No chelating for me yet. > > Marcia > I also have great trouble sleeping, however I did find that valerian did help. In the UK there is a company called Lane's who do a valerian with other herbs, though you do need to take them throughout the daytime as well as before going to bed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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