Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 , My oldest daughter used to do something like it and we ended up using regular conditioner on her hair and it helped the knots. We just had to take baths in the morning to wash and rinse it all out when we were done. Kim SAH-Homeschooling Mom to: Kadence, Grace, ,& Bean edd 11/26/01 I WORK FROM HOME YOU CAN TOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 , My oldest daughter used to do something like it and we ended up using regular conditioner on her hair and it helped the knots. We just had to take baths in the morning to wash and rinse it all out when we were done. Kim SAH-Homeschooling Mom to: Kadence, Grace, ,& Bean edd 11/26/01 I WORK FROM HOME YOU CAN TOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 , My oldest daughter used to do something like it and we ended up using regular conditioner on her hair and it helped the knots. We just had to take baths in the morning to wash and rinse it all out when we were done. Kim SAH-Homeschooling Mom to: Kadence, Grace, ,& Bean edd 11/26/01 I WORK FROM HOME YOU CAN TOO! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 I don't mean to be discouraging, but I do this! Always have... It did used to fall out when I was younger. I guess over the years, the hair must have got stronger as it doesn't any more - and maybe I don't twist it so hard any more, either. Also, because my hair is curly and prone to frizziness I use lots of anti-frizz products, so maybe this helps. VO5 do a leave-in conditioner which is reasonably cheap, or Frieda does Frizz Ease, and the Italian sounding posh-named hair range does a Serum which works well, too. Perhaps a good coating of something like this might stop it getting so tangled? Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 I don't mean to be discouraging, but I do this! Always have... It did used to fall out when I was younger. I guess over the years, the hair must have got stronger as it doesn't any more - and maybe I don't twist it so hard any more, either. Also, because my hair is curly and prone to frizziness I use lots of anti-frizz products, so maybe this helps. VO5 do a leave-in conditioner which is reasonably cheap, or Frieda does Frizz Ease, and the Italian sounding posh-named hair range does a Serum which works well, too. Perhaps a good coating of something like this might stop it getting so tangled? Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 Sieue wrote: > > > All i can suggest is either tying it back, or getting it cut a bit shorter. > > Sorry, but phase springs to mind. Thanks Sue! The rear third of her head is now pretty bald (just baby fluff) I have to do a comb over to hide it! Sadly she does it at night - probably in her sleep so we can't catch her at it too often. MAybe after her birthday I'll chop it a bit shorter - poor love its hardly long atm - as she is moving on to the top of her head! I know its just a phase - but she looks so cute with her blonde curls! http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 > >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb in one > >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in the > >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. More > >often than not I cannot untangle them >>>>>>>>> No experience of girls and long hair, but a thought does come to mind, could you plait her hair at night and then if she does twiddle with it, it should not be such a problem in the morning? Trisha SAHM to 3 very short haired boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 > >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb in one > >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in the > >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. More > >often than not I cannot untangle them >>>>>>>>> No experience of girls and long hair, but a thought does come to mind, could you plait her hair at night and then if she does twiddle with it, it should not be such a problem in the morning? Trisha SAHM to 3 very short haired boys! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 At 17:56 18/07/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb in one >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in the >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. More >often than not I cannot untangle them - despite Kitty being very patient >- and I end up snipping them out. She is getting a bit bald at the back >of her head though - which isn't helped by the fact that if she wakes up >early she'll often pull the knot out by the roots! > >I've tried spraying detangler spray on her before bed - but it doesn't >seem to help. Any ideas? Emma did this, to the point that she had a bald patch about the size of a fifty pence piece in three places on ehr head. She went from tugged and twisted to actually pulling her hair out. We ended up ignoring it for the most part, gently removing her hand when we saw her doing it, and then when she was old enough to understand I had the hairdresser have a long chat with her, followed up by me, a couple of friends etc. She stopped and althugh her hair is always slightly brittle looking, at the least it is all the same length and the balkd patches have grown back in. As for detangling spray and they like, i know how twisted and knotted Emma's hair got and I can't see anything like this working. They literally twist the hair until it is in tight curls. All i can suggest is either tying it back, or getting it cut a bit shorter. Sorry, but phase springs to mind. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 At 17:56 18/07/2001 +0100, you wrote: >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb in one >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in the >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. More >often than not I cannot untangle them - despite Kitty being very patient >- and I end up snipping them out. She is getting a bit bald at the back >of her head though - which isn't helped by the fact that if she wakes up >early she'll often pull the knot out by the roots! > >I've tried spraying detangler spray on her before bed - but it doesn't >seem to help. Any ideas? Emma did this, to the point that she had a bald patch about the size of a fifty pence piece in three places on ehr head. She went from tugged and twisted to actually pulling her hair out. We ended up ignoring it for the most part, gently removing her hand when we saw her doing it, and then when she was old enough to understand I had the hairdresser have a long chat with her, followed up by me, a couple of friends etc. She stopped and althugh her hair is always slightly brittle looking, at the least it is all the same length and the balkd patches have grown back in. As for detangling spray and they like, i know how twisted and knotted Emma's hair got and I can't see anything like this working. They literally twist the hair until it is in tight curls. All i can suggest is either tying it back, or getting it cut a bit shorter. Sorry, but phase springs to mind. Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2001 Report Share Posted July 18, 2001 I pull my hair out as a type of nervous tic - more so when stressed (when I usually move on to my eyebrows as well). The carpet around my chair at work is more golden than blue! However, I have thick enough hair to be able to afford to lose quite a lot... try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? Anneliese and Toddler Tim who's just had a glowing report on Parents' Evening! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Gosh! I don't think my hair pulling is related to pre- or neo-natal days, though - I was born bald and didn't get any hair worth mentioning till I was nearly 2!! Perhaps it was the wonder of having the stuff when it did finally grow in?? Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > > Wonder why children do these things - until I was about 15 I used to sleep > with my hands over my throat - like I was afraid a vampire would get me! I > spoke to friend who said she did exactly the same thing - then we both found > out that we were born with umbilical cords wrapped around our neck.....makes > you wonder.... If loads of people have a similar habit and it is not > learned from their environment, they have never seen anybody else do it - > WHY - the mysteries of the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Gosh! I don't think my hair pulling is related to pre- or neo-natal days, though - I was born bald and didn't get any hair worth mentioning till I was nearly 2!! Perhaps it was the wonder of having the stuff when it did finally grow in?? Vicki Portman http://www.plushpants.co.uk > > Wonder why children do these things - until I was about 15 I used to sleep > with my hands over my throat - like I was afraid a vampire would get me! I > spoke to friend who said she did exactly the same thing - then we both found > out that we were born with umbilical cords wrapped around our neck.....makes > you wonder.... If loads of people have a similar habit and it is not > learned from their environment, they have never seen anybody else do it - > WHY - the mysteries of the universe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 orTrisha@... wrote: > > >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb > in one > > >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in > the > > >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. > More > > >often than not I cannot untangle them >>>>>>>>> > > No experience of girls and long hair, but a thought does come to > mind, could you plait her hair at night and then if she does twiddle > with it, it should not be such a problem in the morning? > I could try - but it is too short - it has taken her nearly 2 years to grow a short bob so I don't want her pulling it all out now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 orTrisha@... wrote: > > >Kitty (2 next Sunday) twists her hair as she falls asleep (thumb > in one > > >mouth and twiddles hair with other). Her hair is very fine and in > the > > >morning she wakes up with huge, dreadlock type knots in her hair. > More > > >often than not I cannot untangle them >>>>>>>>> > > No experience of girls and long hair, but a thought does come to > mind, could you plait her hair at night and then if she does twiddle > with it, it should not be such a problem in the morning? > I could try - but it is too short - it has taken her nearly 2 years to grow a short bob so I don't want her pulling it all out now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Anneliese Handley wrote: > try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Anneliese Handley wrote: > try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Its funny (peculiar of course) isn;t it... Susy has never really been a twiddler, but G has -she has been umbilically attached to her flat bear since birth, at a bout 18 months she plucked all its hair out gradually (and all over the house -she called them " bitza bear " prior to thi sshe used to twiddle his label, and it was when this gave up the ghost that she started plucking. Now he is a total " fredbear " she has taken (aged 3 3/4) to twiddling pieces of cotton wool in bed (and scattering them all over the house too) when asked she says its " cos it feels nice " but won;t accept a substitute of blanket -piece of fabric-another bear.... She is still thoroughly attached to her bear -which is little more than a rough bear shaped rag approximation of a bear.... I'm just hoping she grows out of it one day. However... I once worked with a girl (my age) who still slept with her bit of baby blanket (with satin edge) aged 31! She admitted to me that her boyfriends never got to stay the whole night cos she couldn;t sleep without this blanket and she didn't want them to know:-( She took it on a school journey we were both on & had to hide it when the kids came to her room for any reason. Angi >Anneliese Handley wrote: > >> try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? > >Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! > > >http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/ > > >*** NCT enquiry line - 0 *** > >Live chat http://www.yahoogroups.com/chat/nct-coffee > >Have you found out about all the other groups for the NCT online? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 Its funny (peculiar of course) isn;t it... Susy has never really been a twiddler, but G has -she has been umbilically attached to her flat bear since birth, at a bout 18 months she plucked all its hair out gradually (and all over the house -she called them " bitza bear " prior to thi sshe used to twiddle his label, and it was when this gave up the ghost that she started plucking. Now he is a total " fredbear " she has taken (aged 3 3/4) to twiddling pieces of cotton wool in bed (and scattering them all over the house too) when asked she says its " cos it feels nice " but won;t accept a substitute of blanket -piece of fabric-another bear.... She is still thoroughly attached to her bear -which is little more than a rough bear shaped rag approximation of a bear.... I'm just hoping she grows out of it one day. However... I once worked with a girl (my age) who still slept with her bit of baby blanket (with satin edge) aged 31! She admitted to me that her boyfriends never got to stay the whole night cos she couldn;t sleep without this blanket and she didn't want them to know:-( She took it on a school journey we were both on & had to hide it when the kids came to her room for any reason. Angi >Anneliese Handley wrote: > >> try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? > >Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! > > >http://www.foxstitch.co.uk/ > > >*** NCT enquiry line - 0 *** > >Live chat http://www.yahoogroups.com/chat/nct-coffee > >Have you found out about all the other groups for the NCT online? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 I don't sleep well without a bear - I need something to cuddle and DH won't let me cuddle him! Anneliese (seen our website? handleyhome.co.uk will show you just what a bear person I am!) Re: Re: Hair pulling Its funny (peculiar of course) isn;t it... Susy has never really been a twiddler, but G has -she has been umbilically attached to her flat bear since birth, at a bout 18 months she plucked all its hair out gradually (and all over the house -she called them " bitza bear " prior to thi sshe used to twiddle his label, and it was when this gave up the ghost that she started plucking. Now he is a total " fredbear " she has taken (aged 3 3/4) to twiddling pieces of cotton wool in bed (and scattering them all over the house too) when asked she says its " cos it feels nice " but won;t accept a substitute of blanket -piece of fabric-another bear.... She is still thoroughly attached to her bear -which is little more than a rough bear shaped rag approximation of a bear.... I'm just hoping she grows out of it one day. However... I once worked with a girl (my age) who still slept with her bit of baby blanket (with satin edge) aged 31! She admitted to me that her boyfriends never got to stay the whole night cos she couldn;t sleep without this blanket and she didn't want them to know:-( She took it on a school journey we were both on & had to hide it when the kids came to her room for any reason. Angi >Anneliese Handley wrote: > >> try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? > >Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2001 Report Share Posted July 19, 2001 I don't sleep well without a bear - I need something to cuddle and DH won't let me cuddle him! Anneliese (seen our website? handleyhome.co.uk will show you just what a bear person I am!) Re: Re: Hair pulling Its funny (peculiar of course) isn;t it... Susy has never really been a twiddler, but G has -she has been umbilically attached to her flat bear since birth, at a bout 18 months she plucked all its hair out gradually (and all over the house -she called them " bitza bear " prior to thi sshe used to twiddle his label, and it was when this gave up the ghost that she started plucking. Now he is a total " fredbear " she has taken (aged 3 3/4) to twiddling pieces of cotton wool in bed (and scattering them all over the house too) when asked she says its " cos it feels nice " but won;t accept a substitute of blanket -piece of fabric-another bear.... She is still thoroughly attached to her bear -which is little more than a rough bear shaped rag approximation of a bear.... I'm just hoping she grows out of it one day. However... I once worked with a girl (my age) who still slept with her bit of baby blanket (with satin edge) aged 31! She admitted to me that her boyfriends never got to stay the whole night cos she couldn;t sleep without this blanket and she didn't want them to know:-( She took it on a school journey we were both on & had to hide it when the kids came to her room for any reason. Angi >Anneliese Handley wrote: > >> try giving Kitty a toy to hold instead? > >Well, she has Mr Trotter and 'baby' in one arm - thumb of that hand in mouth and the other hand is used to twirl hair - last night I put socks over her hands just after she had fallen asleep - not sure how long they stayed on though! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 From: " Anneliese Handley " Anneliese_Handley@...> > I don't sleep well without a bear - I need something to cuddle and DH won't > let me cuddle him! Do we have the same DH? Mine very rarely does either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 From: " Anneliese Handley " Anneliese_Handley@...> > I don't sleep well without a bear - I need something to cuddle and DH won't > let me cuddle him! Do we have the same DH? Mine very rarely does either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Bit late on this one but FWIW here is the way I dealt with DD1's hair twiddling. She has fine red hair which got very tangled and I kept having to hack bits out. However she loves having her hair in all different styles with as many different clips, bands etc as possible. So I stage managed a conversation with DH along the lines of " It's a shame Kezia keeps twiddling her hair - if she carries on I will have to take her to the hairdresser and have it all cut very short! " . She stopped almost straight away. HTH Francesca Mum to Kezia (3) and Mad Lily (14 months) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2001 Report Share Posted July 20, 2001 Francesaca wrote: > So I stage managed a conversation with DH along the lines of " It's a > shame Kezia keeps twiddling her hair - if she carries on I will have > to take her to the hairdresser and have it all cut very short! " . She > stopped almost straight away. HTH I wish this would work with Steffi. She has just started chewing her hair and I pointed out to her that since we were going to the hairdressers on Thursday, I would ask to cut it so short it couldn't reach her mouth. It stopped her for about an hour, then she was back doing it again :-( I'm just hoping that whe we arrive home, her cousin will have bobbed hair and Steffi will want to copy her, instead of the current obsession she has with long hair. It desperately needs trimming at the ends but isn't worth fighting over, IMO. -- Sue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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