Re: itching (feet) and toxins

[Guest guest]

vrp(vitamin research products) or thornes do a 50 mg dmsa I think, i

might be wrong but it would be worth checking....

good luck

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have two questions:

>

> I have the diagnosis m.s./symptoms for a long time (28 years)

> and have itching feet for about 6 years (the worst symptom !).

> I now get the idea that those itching feelings (for about

> 2 hours a day; every day) is an attempt of my body to get rid of

> the toxins (mercury). I think I am very poisoned and am quiet sure

> I am right about the reason of those itching feelings (everything

has a reason !).

> What is your opinion about that ?

>

> Second question:

> I am on round 23 (first 12 rounds dmsa only, 25 mg.; then 11 rounds

> dmsa and ala; both 25 mg.). Everything is going very well.

> Next week I intend to do the same (by the way: I'll be 6 month

amalgam-free then),

> but after that ? I intend to do 25 mg. dmsa and 50 mg. ala; for 2

reasons;

> first one is practical: you can buy 50 mg. ala, but not 50 mg dmsa

(am I right ?);

> and dmsa is expensive; ala is cheap(er). It is trial and error

anyway (I think).

> Second: ala is the one that is the most important. Of course I have

to see

> if I " ll tolerate it; it is going fine till now, so why changing ? I

know. But I want to try it !!

> What is your opinion about that ?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Simon

>

>

>

>

>

> attempt

>

[Guest guest]

Simon,

Have you tried adding ldn to your routine? It is talked about on

http://health.groups.yahoo.com/group/lowdosenaltrexone/ - lots of

folks with ms in that group. Although we don't deal with ms, we are

chelating with dmsa and ala and using the ldn.

> >

> > Hello all,

> >

> > I have two questions:

> >

> > I have the diagnosis m.s./symptoms for a long time (28 years)

> > and have itching feet for about 6 years (the worst symptom !).

> > I now get the idea that those itching feelings (for about

> > 2 hours a day; every day) is an attempt of my body to get rid of

> > the toxins (mercury). I think I am very poisoned and am quiet sure

> > I am right about the reason of those itching feelings (everything

> has a reason !).

> > What is your opinion about that ?

> >

> > Second question:

> > I am on round 23 (first 12 rounds dmsa only, 25 mg.; then 11

rounds

> > dmsa and ala; both 25 mg.). Everything is going very well.

> > Next week I intend to do the same (by the way: I'll be 6 month

> amalgam-free then),

> > but after that ? I intend to do 25 mg. dmsa and 50 mg. ala; for 2

> reasons;

> > first one is practical: you can buy 50 mg. ala, but not 50 mg dmsa

> (am I right ?);

> > and dmsa is expensive; ala is cheap(er). It is trial and error

> anyway (I think).

> > Second: ala is the one that is the most important. Of course I

have

> to see

> > if I " ll tolerate it; it is going fine till now, so why changing ?

I

> know. But I want to try it !!

> > What is your opinion about that ?

> >

> > Thanks in advance.

> >

> > Simon

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > attempt

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Well, itchy feet could be toxin release, but it is also sometimes

associated with peripheral neuropathy. Have your feet been tested for

sensation? If not, have someone press a non-sharp object on various

points of your feet while you are not watching and see if you can tell

them when they are touching you. A broom bristle or the plastic shank

of those gizmos they use to hold brand-new socks together would work

well. If you can't feel the touches, then bring it to your doctor's

attention. Numb neuropathy can be dangerous, since you can't feel

what's happening. Otherwise, if you have no signs of PN, then it may

just be toxin release. Have you tried epsom salts foot baths? I also

find coconut oil to be a really good skin moisturizer and it seems to

lessen the itching. It also has natural antibacterial properties.

Second question: I am surprised no one else has mentioned this, but

jumping from 25mg ALA to 50mg ALA in one round is too much of an

increase. I believe they recommend no more than a 50% increase,

which would put you at about 37.5mg for the next stage. Even a 50%

increase might be too much, but if you started at 25mg without

problems, it may be ok. I haven't started chelating yet myself but I

can readily imagine having to open the capsules and measure out the

right dose must be annoying. However, there are many, many instances

of people going too fast too soon and regretting it, and jumping from

25mg to 50mg is too much. BTW, the jump is too much whether it's ALA

or DMSA.

>

> Hello all,

>

> I have two questions:

>

> I have the diagnosis m.s./symptoms for a long time (28 years)

> and have itching feet for about 6 years (the worst symptom !).

> I now get the idea that those itching feelings (for about

> 2 hours a day; every day) is an attempt of my body to get rid of

> the toxins (mercury). I think I am very poisoned and am quiet sure

> I am right about the reason of those itching feelings (everything

has a reason !).

> What is your opinion about that ?

>

> Second question:

> I am on round 23 (first 12 rounds dmsa only, 25 mg.; then 11 rounds

> dmsa and ala; both 25 mg.). Everything is going very well.

> Next week I intend to do the same (by the way: I'll be 6 month

amalgam-free then),

> but after that ? I intend to do 25 mg. dmsa and 50 mg. ala; for 2

reasons;

> first one is practical: you can buy 50 mg. ala, but not 50 mg dmsa

(am I right ?);

> and dmsa is expensive; ala is cheap(er). It is trial and error

anyway (I think).

> Second: ala is the one that is the most important. Of course I have

to see

> if I " ll tolerate it; it is going fine till now, so why changing ? I

know. But I want to try it !!

> What is your opinion about that ?

>

> Thanks in advance.

>

> Simon

>

>

>

>

>

> attempt

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for answering.

You sad: " I can readily imagine having to open the capsules

and measure out the right dose must be annoying " .

That really is the only problem: I am trembling a bit

(my arms/hands are not stable; my vision is not 100%: dizziness), so I cannot

" play " with the capsules. My wife and son can, but they work and has school.

But I know 50 mg. is too much. I " ll take a 50 capsule and throw off

1/4 out of the capsule. I must not take too much, because everything is going

fine.

Is it important to have exactly the same dose ? Or is it not that important

when one dosis is - lets say - 36 mg., and the other is 40 mg. ?

Itching: till 2 years ago they tested me every year in the hospital, like you

sad.

My " peripheral-feeling " has been always okee; the deeper feeling,

with a tuning-fork, was almost zero/not there anymore.

I " ll keep in mind the epsom salts foot baths, but I am feeling the itching is

going to be less and less again (like the first 2 months; then again worse for

2-3 months (dumping-phase ? mercury levels in blood/urine ?); the last

2 weeks less again). I think everything is going just like the theory about AI.

I am just chelating, take supplements and wait/see/hope.

Regards,

Simon

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> To: frequent-dose-chelation

> From: yankeeexile@...

> Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:54:31 +0000

> Subject: Re: itching (feet) and toxins

>

>

> Well, itchy feet could be toxin release, but it is also sometimes

> associated with peripheral neuropathy. Have your feet been tested for

> sensation? If not, have someone press a non-sharp object on various

> points of your feet while you are not watching and see if you can tell

> them when they are touching you. A broom bristle or the plastic shank

> of those gizmos they use to hold brand-new socks together would work

> well. If you can't feel the touches, then bring it to your doctor's

> attention. Numb neuropathy can be dangerous, since you can't feel

> what's happening. Otherwise, if you have no signs of PN, then it may

> just be toxin release. Have you tried epsom salts foot baths? I also

> find coconut oil to be a really good skin moisturizer and it seems to

> lessen the itching. It also has natural antibacterial properties.

>

> Second question: I am surprised no one else has mentioned this, but

> jumping from 25mg ALA to 50mg ALA in one round is too much of an

> increase. I believe they recommend no more than a 50% increase,

> which would put you at about 37.5mg for the next stage. Even a 50%

> increase might be too much, but if you started at 25mg without

> problems, it may be ok. I haven't started chelating yet myself but I

> can readily imagine having to open the capsules and measure out the

> right dose must be annoying. However, there are many, many instances

> of people going too fast too soon and regretting it, and jumping from

> 25mg to 50mg is too much. BTW, the jump is too much whether it's ALA

> or DMSA.

>

[Guest guest]

Of all the ideas for measuring that I've read about over the last year

or so, the one that seemed the best to me was the plan where you take

a piece of paper and make equal distant lines on it, enough so that

the number of spaces between the lines equals the number of doses you

want to get. So four doses would need five lines, etc. Then empty

the capsule on the paper and use a razor or knife to get it into an

even line crossing over the lines, so it will be completely between

the two outermost lines. Then when it was spread out equally, they

just took the knife or razor and scraped one " space " worth of powder

off and put it in a capsule. I think they scraped it onto a paper

that was folded to make it easier to pour into the capsule.

When I read that, my idea was to go into Word or Excel or something

where I could position the lines and then print the paper, without

having to rely on my getting straight/equidistant lines.

I think it IS important to try to get your doses as equal as possible,

but without scientific equipment I don't think anyone is getting EXACT

precision. So just aim for as close as possible and do your best.

I've also read that if you put each dose of powder into some other

container, and then just dump that container into water/juice/food

when it's time to take it, that that's ok. I think one person said

they actually just leave the piles on the paper, but I'd be afraid of

something happening to it. I plan on getting some of those stacking

pill cases and just dump my measured doses into a separate container

each, since I'm not sure about getting it into a capsule. That would

mean I'd only be able to do 2 capsules at once, or I'd need to buy a

lot of stackers, but two at a time is ok with me.

>

> Thanks for answering.

>

> You sad: " I can readily imagine having to open the capsules

> and measure out the right dose must be annoying " .

> That really is the only problem: I am trembling a bit

> (my arms/hands are not stable; my vision is not 100%: dizziness), so

I cannot

> " play " with the capsules. My wife and son can, but they work and has

school.

> But I know 50 mg. is too much. I " ll take a 50 capsule and throw off

> 1/4 out of the capsule. I must not take too much, because everything

is going fine.

> Is it important to have exactly the same dose ? Or is it not that

important

> when one dosis is - lets say - 36 mg., and the other is 40 mg. ?

>

> Itching: till 2 years ago they tested me every year in the hospital,

like you sad.

> My " peripheral-feeling " has been always okee; the deeper feeling,

> with a tuning-fork, was almost zero/not there anymore.

> I " ll keep in mind the epsom salts foot baths, but I am feeling the

itching is

> going to be less and less again (like the first 2 months; then again

worse for

> 2-3 months (dumping-phase ? mercury levels in blood/urine ?); the last

> 2 weeks less again). I think everything is going just like the

theory about AI.

> I am just chelating, take supplements and wait/see/hope.

>

> Regards,

> Simon

>

> ________________________________

> > To: frequent-dose-chelation

> > From: yankeeexile@...

> > Date: Mon, 25 Feb 2008 14:54:31 +0000

> > Subject: Re: itching (feet) and toxins

> >

> >

> > Well, itchy feet could be toxin release, but it is also sometimes

> > associated with peripheral neuropathy. Have your feet been tested for

> > sensation? If not, have someone press a non-sharp object on various

> > points of your feet while you are not watching and see if you can tell

> > them when they are touching you. A broom bristle or the plastic shank

> > of those gizmos they use to hold brand-new socks together would work

> > well. If you can't feel the touches, then bring it to your doctor's

> > attention. Numb neuropathy can be dangerous, since you can't feel

> > what's happening. Otherwise, if you have no signs of PN, then it may

> > just be toxin release. Have you tried epsom salts foot baths? I also

> > find coconut oil to be a really good skin moisturizer and it seems to

> > lessen the itching. It also has natural antibacterial properties.

> >

> > Second question: I am surprised no one else has mentioned this, but

> > jumping from 25mg ALA to 50mg ALA in one round is too much of an

> > increase. I believe they recommend no more than a 50% increase,

> > which would put you at about 37.5mg for the next stage. Even a 50%

> > increase might be too much, but if you started at 25mg without

> > problems, it may be ok. I haven't started chelating yet myself but I

> > can readily imagine having to open the capsules and measure out the

> > right dose must be annoying. However, there are many, many instances

> > of people going too fast too soon and regretting it, and jumping from

> > 25mg to 50mg is too much. BTW, the jump is too much whether it's ALA

> > or DMSA.

> >

>