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> > Why do people find it so embarrassing to talk to children about

sex and

> > growing up?

>

> I'm not embarrassed (as I say I'm an ANT and spend hours describing

the birth

> process to all sorts of people - just not yet sure that they need to

know

> about it. Like many things that are essentially adult in nature -

children

> can find frightening and bewildering. I can remember when I first

found out

> about periods and sex I was very scared about how it would feel

etc. - and

> was older than my kids are now<<

I totally agree with this. I have only just discussed all the facts

of life with my 8 yr old daughter. She was very mature about it all,

asked questions wasn't embarrassed, but I know for a fact that if I'd

mentioned periods to her, even just a year ago, she would have been

horrified. When my younger children ask questions, I try to answer as

briefly as I can as I really don't feel a 5 yr old has the maturity to

be told the full details of an adults sex life. My 5 year knows that

a baby grows from an egg in mummy's tummy but he doesn't know that

daddy has anything to do with and if we do get onto that soon then he

will just be told about the " special cuddle " and that is it. I know

I've said before that I just think childhood is so short and it is a

shame to grow them up before their time as it were.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> > Why do people find it so embarrassing to talk to children about

sex and

> > growing up?

>

> I'm not embarrassed (as I say I'm an ANT and spend hours describing

the birth

> process to all sorts of people - just not yet sure that they need to

know

> about it. Like many things that are essentially adult in nature -

children

> can find frightening and bewildering. I can remember when I first

found out

> about periods and sex I was very scared about how it would feel

etc. - and

> was older than my kids are now<<

I totally agree with this. I have only just discussed all the facts

of life with my 8 yr old daughter. She was very mature about it all,

asked questions wasn't embarrassed, but I know for a fact that if I'd

mentioned periods to her, even just a year ago, she would have been

horrified. When my younger children ask questions, I try to answer as

briefly as I can as I really don't feel a 5 yr old has the maturity to

be told the full details of an adults sex life. My 5 year knows that

a baby grows from an egg in mummy's tummy but he doesn't know that

daddy has anything to do with and if we do get onto that soon then he

will just be told about the " special cuddle " and that is it. I know

I've said before that I just think childhood is so short and it is a

shame to grow them up before their time as it were.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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I totally agree with this. I have only just discussed all the facts

> of life with my 8 yr old daughter. She was very mature about it

all,

> asked questions wasn't embarrassed, but I know for a fact that if

I'd

> mentioned periods to her, even just a year ago, she would have been

> horrified.

I told my eldest daughter (now 33) about sex when she asked. She was

9. I was as open and frank as I could be, but told her that if she

had any questions, she could ask me, but in private, not in front of

the younger kids. The next morning she came to me in private and said

she had a question. " Of course, what is it? " I said.

She looked at me, wide eyed and said : " did you do it last night? "

LOL.

Besides being open and frank I also teach privacy and modesty in our

personal and sexual behaviour. I'm not saying there is anything

wrong in walking around the house naked in front of the kids, and

please accept that I am not being superior about this, just

different!! but in our culture we don't do it. The most of me my

kids have seen is me in my underwear and hair uncovered, and Zehava

even tells me off about that!

Ruthie

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> 9. I was as open and frank as I could be, but told her that if she

> had any questions, she could ask me, but in private, not in front of

> the younger kids. The next morning she came to me in private and

said

> she had a question. " Of course, what is it? " I said.

>> She looked at me, wide eyed and said : " did you do it last night? " <<

LOL. You know I had similar with who was also nine at the time

and wanted to know " how often do you do it with dad? " I came up with

an answer which has stood me in good stead ever since. I basically

said " I am quite happy to answer any of your questions but what goes

on between your dad and I is private and I won't be discussing it with

you or anybody else " . That worked a treat and is stored for future

use with the others.

Lorraine

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Oh, I love it Lorraine. I'm going to keep this for future reference, as DS1

aged 4 is already puzzled about where he came from and where they were

before he and the other children were born. I find that one very

difficult - " well, , you just didn't exist! " doesn't really seem to

solve his query - so am expecting loads more questions, especially with him

starting at Infant School in September.

Hannah

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LOL. You know I had similar with who was also nine at the time

and wanted to know " how often do you do it with dad? " I came up with

an answer which has stood me in good stead ever since. I basically

said " I am quite happy to answer any of your questions but what goes

on between your dad and I is private and I won't be discussing it with

you or anybody else " . That worked a treat and is stored for future

use with the others.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> > 9. I was as open and frank as I could be, but told her that if

she

> > had any questions, she could ask me, but in private, not in front

of

> > the younger kids. The next morning she came to me in private and

> said

> > she had a question. " Of course, what is it? " I said.

> >> She looked at me, wide eyed and said : " did you do it last

night? " <<

>

> LOL. You know I had similar with who was also nine at the

time

> and wanted to know " how often do you do it with dad? " I came up

with

> an answer which has stood me in good stead ever since. I basically

> said " I am quite happy to answer any of your questions but what goes

> on between your dad and I is private and I won't be discussing it

with

> you or anybody else " . That worked a treat and is stored for future

> use with the others.

Lorraine that's what I said to her, I certainly didn't TELL her! LOL!

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DS has this thing at the moment about sticking a ball/balloon/pillow

under his t-shirt and saying proudly " I've got a baby in my tummy " .

I think it's come from nursery as 2 of the mum's of kids in his class

are pregnant. I'm starting to get odd questions now and then too, but

thankfully a truthful but brief, fairly non-descript answer suffices -

at least for the moment :)

Todman

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DS has this thing at the moment about sticking a ball/balloon/pillow

under his t-shirt and saying proudly " I've got a baby in my tummy " .

I think it's come from nursery as 2 of the mum's of kids in his class

are pregnant. I'm starting to get odd questions now and then too, but

thankfully a truthful but brief, fairly non-descript answer suffices -

at least for the moment :)

Todman

Treasurer, Stansted Branch (R5)

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You know.. Perhaps it is being Danish (sex is talked about very differently in

Denmark than I have found it in England) but I do not remember ever not knowing

about sex and how babies was made. In fact I remember in my kinder garden class

(that is ages 5-6) that we had pictures of how a baby grew inside the mother and

the very first picture was of a man and woman making love (drawing and whilst

basic you could see the man having his penis inside the woman) this was

considered perfectly normal and I definitely knew about it at that stage..

However even now I prefer not to know about my mothers sex life ;o)... (and lets

not even get onto the subject of my father who has been married 4 times lol)

I would like to think that I will answer Phoebes questions as they come and be

truthful with her but as she is only 3.5 there has not been all that much of a

chance though today she did get to hear the babies heartbeat ;o) then said Oh

mummies tummy poorly the doctor - i.e. my midwife- have to have a look... So I

don't think it really sunk in lol

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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You know.. Perhaps it is being Danish (sex is talked about very differently in

Denmark than I have found it in England) but I do not remember ever not knowing

about sex and how babies was made. In fact I remember in my kinder garden class

(that is ages 5-6) that we had pictures of how a baby grew inside the mother and

the very first picture was of a man and woman making love (drawing and whilst

basic you could see the man having his penis inside the woman) this was

considered perfectly normal and I definitely knew about it at that stage..

However even now I prefer not to know about my mothers sex life ;o)... (and lets

not even get onto the subject of my father who has been married 4 times lol)

I would like to think that I will answer Phoebes questions as they come and be

truthful with her but as she is only 3.5 there has not been all that much of a

chance though today she did get to hear the babies heartbeat ;o) then said Oh

mummies tummy poorly the doctor - i.e. my midwife- have to have a look... So I

don't think it really sunk in lol

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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>>Perhaps it is being Danish (sex is talked about very differently in

Denmark than I have found it in England) but I do not remember ever

not knowing about sex and how babies was made. In fact I remember in

my kinder garden class (that is ages 5-6) that we had pictures of how

a baby grew inside the mother and the very first picture was of a man

and woman making love (drawing and whilst basic you could see the man

having his penis inside the woman) this was considered perfectly

normal and I definitely knew about it at that stage..<<

I was the same, I don;t remember not knowing -my mum is/was a nurse &

midwife and may be that helped but we also had a book when I was 4/5/6

ish called and Caroline, (have a vague recllection it may have

origianlly been Scandinavian of some desription) and it had b&w line

drawings of growing up, with simple text to explain, and included sex

and how babies grow. I just remember accepting it and it never being a

big deal.

Lonnie>I would like to think that I will answer Phoebes questions as

they come and be truthful with her but as she is only 3.5 there has

not been all that much of a chance though today she did get to hear

the babies heartbeat ;o) then said Oh mummies tummy poorly the

doctor - i.e. my midwife- have to have a look... So I don't think it

really sunk in lol <<

Georgi was only 12-21 months when I was pg with Susy, but she grasped

the fact of the baby being inside me and always came to my antenatals

and " helped " the m/w feel the baby and hear the hb... she loved the

scan too:-)

She is 3 y 8m now and is asking lots of questions, like how will the

baby come out? why haven't I got a willy?

I have told her that women have a special hole near their bottoms

which is specially for babies to come out of, an that is what little

gilrs have instead of willies, and that is fine with her.

She wants to know stuff like how the baby grow and what it eats before

it drinks mummy milk... so we talked about food making good things

that go round in the blood to make us grow, and that includes babies

inside too... she seemed to get that OK too for now!!

I'd love for her to just always know at ethe right level for her , and

not to have to do " big talks " !!

(may be being an ANT will help....)

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>>Perhaps it is being Danish (sex is talked about very differently in

Denmark than I have found it in England) but I do not remember ever

not knowing about sex and how babies was made. In fact I remember in

my kinder garden class (that is ages 5-6) that we had pictures of how

a baby grew inside the mother and the very first picture was of a man

and woman making love (drawing and whilst basic you could see the man

having his penis inside the woman) this was considered perfectly

normal and I definitely knew about it at that stage..<<

I was the same, I don;t remember not knowing -my mum is/was a nurse &

midwife and may be that helped but we also had a book when I was 4/5/6

ish called and Caroline, (have a vague recllection it may have

origianlly been Scandinavian of some desription) and it had b&w line

drawings of growing up, with simple text to explain, and included sex

and how babies grow. I just remember accepting it and it never being a

big deal.

Lonnie>I would like to think that I will answer Phoebes questions as

they come and be truthful with her but as she is only 3.5 there has

not been all that much of a chance though today she did get to hear

the babies heartbeat ;o) then said Oh mummies tummy poorly the

doctor - i.e. my midwife- have to have a look... So I don't think it

really sunk in lol <<

Georgi was only 12-21 months when I was pg with Susy, but she grasped

the fact of the baby being inside me and always came to my antenatals

and " helped " the m/w feel the baby and hear the hb... she loved the

scan too:-)

She is 3 y 8m now and is asking lots of questions, like how will the

baby come out? why haven't I got a willy?

I have told her that women have a special hole near their bottoms

which is specially for babies to come out of, an that is what little

gilrs have instead of willies, and that is fine with her.

She wants to know stuff like how the baby grow and what it eats before

it drinks mummy milk... so we talked about food making good things

that go round in the blood to make us grow, and that includes babies

inside too... she seemed to get that OK too for now!!

I'd love for her to just always know at ethe right level for her , and

not to have to do " big talks " !!

(may be being an ANT will help....)

Angi

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> In fact I remember in my kinder garden class (that is ages 5-6)

that we had pictures of how a baby grew inside the mother and the

very first picture was of a man and woman making love (drawing and

whilst basic you could see the man having his penis inside the woman)

this was considered perfectly normal and I definitely knew about it

at that stage>>>>>>>>>>.

One of my friends at about 14 thought that men had two penis, one for

weeing and one for sex.

Shows how good our sex education was at school. Thinking back the

black and white drawing did sort of have the " tube " down the middle

and could have been seen as two penis!

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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Lonnie wrote:

> In fact I remember in my kinder garden class (that is ages 5-6)

that we had pictures of how a baby grew inside the mother and the

very first picture was of a man and woman making love (drawing and

whilst basic you could see the man having his penis inside the woman)

this was considered perfectly normal and I definitely knew about it

at that stage>>>>>>>>>>.

One of my friends at about 14 thought that men had two penis, one for

weeing and one for sex.

Shows how good our sex education was at school. Thinking back the

black and white drawing did sort of have the " tube " down the middle

and could have been seen as two penis!

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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Wow Angi Georgi sounds like she is really asking a lot of questions. Phoebe is

just not interested in stuff like that. the biggest I get is mummy why isn't

poppins wearing trousers???

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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Wow Angi Georgi sounds like she is really asking a lot of questions. Phoebe is

just not interested in stuff like that. the biggest I get is mummy why isn't

poppins wearing trousers???

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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Wow Angi Georgi sounds like she is really asking a lot of questions. Phoebe is

just not interested in stuff like that. the biggest I get is mummy why isn't

poppins wearing trousers???

Lonnie Phoebe & Eloisa's mama

& expecting a Christmas delivery...

My therapist told me the way to achieve true inner peace is to finish what you

start.

So far today, I have finished 2 bags of chips and a Chocolate cake.

I feel better already.

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A former colleague of mine, aged about 32 and having recently given birth to her

third child, once confessed something to me. She had just plucked up enough

courage to ask her husband where the " bone " went to when he no longer had an

erection........

Sex education. Where *would* we be without it????

DS2 has recently been asking how babies get out. So I explained that ladies

have a hole between where poo comes out and where wee comes out, which is

specifically for babies. He seemed very satisfied with this answer - or so I

thought. He asked again today, in front of DS1 who has never shown any interest

in this sort of thing. I gave the same explanation, only for DS1 to ask if he

could see mine. I said that all ladies have these holes, but that they were

private to each individual. He went away quite happy with this, but I await

further, more detailed questions....

Alison

One of my friends at about 14 thought that men had two penis, one for

weeing and one for sex.

Shows how good our sex education was at school. Thinking back the

black and white drawing did sort of have the " tube " down the middle

and could have been seen as two penis!

Trisha

SAHM to 3 boys

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> Sex education. Where *would* we be without it????

My older brother ensured that I knew exactly what a boy looked

like! (before you ask i mean sharing baths when little etc!!) Sex

was freely talked about by my mum and we had a pretty good

book when we were about 5 or 6 (a Family Circle one I think).

She wasn't too good about periods though..or it was probably

me turning very shy when it all started when I was 14.

Wasn't being an early teenager/adolescent the most horrible

time? Or was it just me? Didn't help the fact that I was at a

horrible school at the time where I was bullied. Interestingly my

14 year old sister is at the same school and Dad said the other

day how worried they are about the school and how they are

considering moving her to a local private school..which is exactly

what happened to me!

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>was freely talked about by my mum and we had a pretty good

>book when we were about 5 or 6 (a Family Circle one I think).

>She wasn't too good about periods though..or it was probably

>me turning very shy when it all started when I was 14.

>Wasn't being an early teenager/adolescent the most horrible

>time? Or was it just me? Didn't help the fact that I was at a

>horrible school at the time where I was bullied

Caroline, this could have been written by me exactly! (inc the

bullying bit!) I think our mums were probably not anyworse with

periods than the rest of the stuff... but talking to an adolescent

girl must be sooo much harder than talking to an inquisitive innocent

5 yo!!!

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>was freely talked about by my mum and we had a pretty good

>book when we were about 5 or 6 (a Family Circle one I think).

>She wasn't too good about periods though..or it was probably

>me turning very shy when it all started when I was 14.

>Wasn't being an early teenager/adolescent the most horrible

>time? Or was it just me? Didn't help the fact that I was at a

>horrible school at the time where I was bullied

Caroline, this could have been written by me exactly! (inc the

bullying bit!) I think our mums were probably not anyworse with

periods than the rest of the stuff... but talking to an adolescent

girl must be sooo much harder than talking to an inquisitive innocent

5 yo!!!

Angi

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> >She wasn't too good about periods though..or it was probably

> >me turning very shy when it all started when I was 14.

> >Wasn't being an early teenager/adolescent the most horrible

> >time? Or was it just me?

> Caroline, this could have been written by me exactly!

And me also! My mum covered it all with my older sister so just

didn't seem to bother about me and never mentioned it - I learned all

I had to learn at school. When I finally did start (age 14 so pretty

late I guess) I didn't tell her as I was too shy because she had never

talked to me about it. It was a good 6 mths before she found out and

even then she never said much but my sister told me she was really

upset that I hadn't told her, but she never came to me and said that.

I can remember having lots of worries because I didn't realise you

calculated your cycle from the beginning of one period to the next, I

did it from the end, plus to begin with I had a 21 day cycle anyway so

I was terrified because it was happening so often and I didn't think

that was right. That is why I have made a point of discussing it with

my daughter (now 8) and will continue to do so, plus buy her a good

book once she gets to about 10 or 11 (I have seen one called " The

Period Book " , anybody know what it's like?) just in case there is

something she doesn't want to ask me or just to fill her in on

anything I might have forgotten.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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> >She wasn't too good about periods though..or it was probably

> >me turning very shy when it all started when I was 14.

> >Wasn't being an early teenager/adolescent the most horrible

> >time? Or was it just me?

> Caroline, this could have been written by me exactly!

And me also! My mum covered it all with my older sister so just

didn't seem to bother about me and never mentioned it - I learned all

I had to learn at school. When I finally did start (age 14 so pretty

late I guess) I didn't tell her as I was too shy because she had never

talked to me about it. It was a good 6 mths before she found out and

even then she never said much but my sister told me she was really

upset that I hadn't told her, but she never came to me and said that.

I can remember having lots of worries because I didn't realise you

calculated your cycle from the beginning of one period to the next, I

did it from the end, plus to begin with I had a 21 day cycle anyway so

I was terrified because it was happening so often and I didn't think

that was right. That is why I have made a point of discussing it with

my daughter (now 8) and will continue to do so, plus buy her a good

book once she gets to about 10 or 11 (I have seen one called " The

Period Book " , anybody know what it's like?) just in case there is

something she doesn't want to ask me or just to fill her in on

anything I might have forgotten.

Lorraine

Mum to 10, Natasha 8, 5, ph 3

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(I have seen one called " The

> Period Book " , anybody know what it's like?) just in case there

is

> something she doesn't want to ask me or just to fill her in on

> anything I might have forgotten.

I haven't seen this one - but i have heard good things about it. I

like 'Growing Up' which is an Usborne one. Even Sam (now 7)

enjoys it!

Caroline

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> One of my friends at about 14 thought that men had two penis, one

for

> weeing and one for sex.

>

Trisha

> SAHM to 3 boys

A colleague was telling us the other day about her friends son who is

16. Apparently his mother noticed that all the new underwear that she

was buying was disappearing and when she confronted him about it he

broke down and said that he thought he needed to go to the doctors as

he obviously had a venereal disease as he had this horrible discharge

at night. People thought it was very amusing but I thought it was

very sad to have got to that age and have no idea of what happens to

your body.

Donna

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