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In frequent-dose-chelation Pratt wrote:

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead

levels; don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January.

----------Sorry if I don't remember details , but you have never had

amalgams, or you had them out a long time ago? How long ago did you do the EDTA

IV's? Most lead is stored in your bones and comes out very slowly, and can take

years of chelation to reduce the levels, so one year probably wasn't enough. So

your first 6 rounds of DMSA at 25mg went fine?----------Jackie

Last week I increased the DMSA dosage to 33 and it has been the worst week of

my life in many years. Severe pain, depression and tonight I cried for hours

-----------I'm very sorry you had such a bad week. You certainly did a

reasonable raise in dosage, and I guess we can just never predict when or why

sometimes these things happen. I think Andy has said that when you find a

comfortable dose, then stick with it for a long time. So possibly 25mg is that

comfortable dose for you.----------Jackie

after my doctor called and told me my hair analysis from Doctor's Data looked

" pretty darn good " .

------------Does your doctor have any experience reading hair tests? If not,

I wouldn't put too much stock in those words. If you could post your actual

results to the group, then we could help you analyze it, using Andy's Hair Test

book. And I think anybody who has any issues with metals other than mercury,

should definitely get the Hair Test book, because it has alot of info beyond

mercury. You can find out how to post your hair test and to buy the book in the

links section.-------Jackie

-----------Also, your above reaction to chelation is confirmation that you are

toxic, it doesn't really matter what any test OR doctor says. So reduce your

dose and just keep chelating.----------Jackie

I will be 69 in a few weeks and I wonder if I am just spinning my wheels. My

parents had me committed to New York's Psychiatric Institute when I was 20 years

old and I spent 3 years there. Here it is, 50 years later, and I am still sick.

------------I believe there is a similar example in the Hair Test book. Many

things are misdiagnosed, that are actually heavy metal poisoning. I'm sure

there are thousands of sick people that go through their whole life, never

knowing that heavy metals may be at the root of their illnesses. At least

you're on the right track , even if it isn't any easy

road.-----------Jackie

Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if they will

ever be normal?

------------Yes, I'm sure there is, and sometimes I'm one of them. I

certainly expected to be farther along or all better by now, almost 3 years post

amalgam removal. But I have had quite a series of events happen to me during

this whole time, and I'm actually lucky just to be alive, so I just have to

accept that this is going to take me longer than most. So I have had my share

of ups and downs, including big scares, so I can certainly feel for you and

understand. It really sucks when things go backwards. But I think many of us

have had setbacks, and it just seems to be part of the process. So please hang

in there, and know that there are better days ahead :) And remember, we're all

here for you ;) -------------Jackie

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This is a good sign that you are indeed mercury toxic. In fact,

symptoms in response to chelators is the definitive diagnosis. I know

it's not fun, but information is power. Now that you know the problem,

you have a chance to do something about it.

I've noticed that small changes in dose can make a very big difference.

So, it looks like you've found your dose. Just stick with that.

And don't listen to that doctor. You know that you aren't " pretty darn

good " , whatever he says - and you don't need his understanding.

I second everything Jackie said in her response - ask your doctor for a

copy of the hair test, and post the results to the list so we can help

with interpretation.

And now that you've worked out the problem, just keep chelating and work

on supplements. They can do a great deal to help. Take a good multi

(no iron, no copper), some fish oil, make sure to replace electrolytes,

take some zinc, and lots and lots of anti-oxidants. Make sure to

distribute them through the day. Take a little with each chelation

dose. And take breaks, so you don't overdo it.

Dave.

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Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:31 pm (PDT)

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead

levels; don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January. Last

week I increased the DMSA dosage to 33 and it has been the worst week of

my life in many years. Severe pain, depression and tonight I cried for

hours after my doctor called and told me my hair analysis from Doctor's

Data looked " pretty darn good " . I will be 69 in a few weeks and I wonder

if I am just spinning my wheels. My parents had me committed to New

York's Psychiatric Institute when I was 20 years old and I spent 3 years

there. Here it is, 50 years later, and I am still sick.

Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if they

will ever be normal?

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This is a good sign that you are indeed mercury toxic. In fact,

symptoms in response to chelators is the definitive diagnosis. I know

it's not fun, but information is power. Now that you know the problem,

you have a chance to do something about it.

I've noticed that small changes in dose can make a very big difference.

So, it looks like you've found your dose. Just stick with that.

And don't listen to that doctor. You know that you aren't " pretty darn

good " , whatever he says - and you don't need his understanding.

I second everything Jackie said in her response - ask your doctor for a

copy of the hair test, and post the results to the list so we can help

with interpretation.

And now that you've worked out the problem, just keep chelating and work

on supplements. They can do a great deal to help. Take a good multi

(no iron, no copper), some fish oil, make sure to replace electrolytes,

take some zinc, and lots and lots of anti-oxidants. Make sure to

distribute them through the day. Take a little with each chelation

dose. And take breaks, so you don't overdo it.

Dave.

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hr8072 http://profiles.yahoo.com/hr8072>

Mon Mar 10, 2008 8:31 pm (PDT)

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead

levels; don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January. Last

week I increased the DMSA dosage to 33 and it has been the worst week of

my life in many years. Severe pain, depression and tonight I cried for

hours after my doctor called and told me my hair analysis from Doctor's

Data looked " pretty darn good " . I will be 69 in a few weeks and I wonder

if I am just spinning my wheels. My parents had me committed to New

York's Psychiatric Institute when I was 20 years old and I spent 3 years

there. Here it is, 50 years later, and I am still sick.

Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if they

will ever be normal?

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> Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if

they will ever be normal?

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Absolutely. I am one of those that took ALA in high doses as an

antioxidant while I still had (11) amalgams. It really worries me

when I read that such damage can be " permanent " . I don't know if I am

beyond hope or not. But I keep plugging away because I don't know how

to resign myself to living like this for the rest of my life.

On the other hand, I'm 53 and wondering if I have enough years left to

make any effort worthwhile, so seeing you still willing to work at it

at 69 gives me a lot of hope!

Keep the faith and keep up the effort! And thanks for posting!

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> Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if

they will ever be normal?

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Absolutely. I am one of those that took ALA in high doses as an

antioxidant while I still had (11) amalgams. It really worries me

when I read that such damage can be " permanent " . I don't know if I am

beyond hope or not. But I keep plugging away because I don't know how

to resign myself to living like this for the rest of my life.

On the other hand, I'm 53 and wondering if I have enough years left to

make any effort worthwhile, so seeing you still willing to work at it

at 69 gives me a lot of hope!

Keep the faith and keep up the effort! And thanks for posting!

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- take heart. Chelation is never a straight one-way ticket to

wellness. There are always twists and turns and backsliding. I'm way

better than I was when I started, but I've certainly had rough patches where

I wondered if the progress I thought I was making was just a phantom.

Invariably I have bounced ahead after such episodes and experienced better

health than I had in a long time.

Keep your mind on the following - your bad reaction to the increased dmsa is

a good thing - it strongly suggests that mercury and or lead are indeed your

problems. People DO get way better with chelating - but it takes patience

and time. And LOW doses! Go back down to a comfortable dose, stay there

for a good long while, then increase SLOWLY! Personally I have never and

will never go over 25 mg dmsa (my current dose is 25 mg ala and 12.5 mg dmsa

every 3 hours). And I weigh 185 lbs. I just don't see the need. Chelation

is a long-term proposition, so might as well be comfortable. In fact, if

you're on the right dose, my theory is that you should feel better on round,

or at least no worse.

Dean

increased dmsa on 7th round

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead

levels; don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January. Last week I

increased the DMSA dosage to 33 and it has been the worst week of my life in

many years. Severe pain, depression and tonight I cried for hours after my

doctor called and told me my hair analysis from Doctor's Data looked " pretty

darn good " . I will be 69 in a few weeks and I wonder if I am just spinning

my wheels. My parents had me committed to New York's Psychiatric Institute

when I was 20 years old and I spent 3 years there. Here it is, 50 years

later, and I am still sick.

Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if they

will ever be normal?

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- take heart. Chelation is never a straight one-way ticket to

wellness. There are always twists and turns and backsliding. I'm way

better than I was when I started, but I've certainly had rough patches where

I wondered if the progress I thought I was making was just a phantom.

Invariably I have bounced ahead after such episodes and experienced better

health than I had in a long time.

Keep your mind on the following - your bad reaction to the increased dmsa is

a good thing - it strongly suggests that mercury and or lead are indeed your

problems. People DO get way better with chelating - but it takes patience

and time. And LOW doses! Go back down to a comfortable dose, stay there

for a good long while, then increase SLOWLY! Personally I have never and

will never go over 25 mg dmsa (my current dose is 25 mg ala and 12.5 mg dmsa

every 3 hours). And I weigh 185 lbs. I just don't see the need. Chelation

is a long-term proposition, so might as well be comfortable. In fact, if

you're on the right dose, my theory is that you should feel better on round,

or at least no worse.

Dean

increased dmsa on 7th round

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead

levels; don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January. Last week I

increased the DMSA dosage to 33 and it has been the worst week of my life in

many years. Severe pain, depression and tonight I cried for hours after my

doctor called and told me my hair analysis from Doctor's Data looked " pretty

darn good " . I will be 69 in a few weeks and I wonder if I am just spinning

my wheels. My parents had me committed to New York's Psychiatric Institute

when I was 20 years old and I spent 3 years there. Here it is, 50 years

later, and I am still sick.

Are there people on this website, sitting out there, wondering if they

will ever be normal?

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Jackie jtrunt@...> wrote:

In frequent-dose-chelation Pratt wrote:

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead levels;

don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January.

----------Sorry if I don't remember details , but you have never had

amalgams, or you had them out a long time ago? How long ago did you do the EDTA

IV's? Most lead is stored in your bones and comes out very slowly, and can take

years of chelation to reduce the levels, so one year probably wasn't enough. So

your first 6 rounds of DMSA at 25mg went fine?----------Jackie

......I had amalgams many years ago, but they must have fallen out.

My last EDTA IV was in Dec 2007. I did fine on 25 mg DMSA.

" ------------Does your doctor have any experience reading hair tests?

No and I will see my doctor next week and get a copy of the Hair Test.

..------------I believe there is a similar example in the Hair Test book. Many

things are misdiagnosed, that are actually heavy metal poisoning.

I have both of Andy's books and on page 67 he references publications written

in or before 1960 that address heavy metal poisoning. 1960 was the year I was

committed to Columbia's New York Institute for Psychiatric treatment. I don't

think any of those doctors had any experience with metal toxicity. After 3

years they let me out with a bag full of medications.

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Jackie jtrunt@...> wrote:

In frequent-dose-chelation Pratt wrote:

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead levels;

don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January.

----------Sorry if I don't remember details , but you have never had

amalgams, or you had them out a long time ago? How long ago did you do the EDTA

IV's? Most lead is stored in your bones and comes out very slowly, and can take

years of chelation to reduce the levels, so one year probably wasn't enough. So

your first 6 rounds of DMSA at 25mg went fine?----------Jackie

......I had amalgams many years ago, but they must have fallen out.

My last EDTA IV was in Dec 2007. I did fine on 25 mg DMSA.

" ------------Does your doctor have any experience reading hair tests?

No and I will see my doctor next week and get a copy of the Hair Test.

..------------I believe there is a similar example in the Hair Test book. Many

things are misdiagnosed, that are actually heavy metal poisoning.

I have both of Andy's books and on page 67 he references publications written

in or before 1960 that address heavy metal poisoning. 1960 was the year I was

committed to Columbia's New York Institute for Psychiatric treatment. I don't

think any of those doctors had any experience with metal toxicity. After 3

years they let me out with a bag full of medications.

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Jackie jtrunt@...> wrote:

In frequent-dose-chelation Pratt wrote:

What is going on? I chelated with EDTA IV's for a year to reduce my lead levels;

don't have amalgams and began DMSA at 25 mg in January.

----------Sorry if I don't remember details , but you have never had

amalgams, or you had them out a long time ago? How long ago did you do the EDTA

IV's? Most lead is stored in your bones and comes out very slowly, and can take

years of chelation to reduce the levels, so one year probably wasn't enough. So

your first 6 rounds of DMSA at 25mg went fine?----------Jackie

......I had amalgams many years ago, but they must have fallen out.

My last EDTA IV was in Dec 2007. I did fine on 25 mg DMSA.

" ------------Does your doctor have any experience reading hair tests?

No and I will see my doctor next week and get a copy of the Hair Test.

..------------I believe there is a similar example in the Hair Test book. Many

things are misdiagnosed, that are actually heavy metal poisoning.

I have both of Andy's books and on page 67 he references publications written

in or before 1960 that address heavy metal poisoning. 1960 was the year I was

committed to Columbia's New York Institute for Psychiatric treatment. I don't

think any of those doctors had any experience with metal toxicity. After 3

years they let me out with a bag full of medications.

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