Re: ORGANIC VS. INORGANIC MERCURY

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> In reading Andy's book again, he says that ALA will not help chelate

> (organic - methyl mercury). He mentions that sometimes it can create

> more methyl mercury. I'd like to understand this better.

>

> So my question is what happens if you have more organic than inorganic

> mercury? I had my amalgams out 7 years ago so this could be a

> possibility for me.

>

Organic mercury gets converted in the body to inorganic. It is likely

that most of the mercury is in the inorganic form.

> What is Andy's advice about the best chelator for organic Mercury?

I don't think he says. Organic Hg isn't all that toxic. It is when

it gets converted to inorganic that it is toxic. Avoiding high

mercury fish will avoid the most common source of organic mercury.

Because organic gets converted to inorganic we really need to be

concerned about chelating out the inorganic.

J

I

> could not find this in his book.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi All,

>

> In reading Andy's book again, he says that ALA will not help chelate

> (organic - methyl mercury). He mentions that sometimes it can create

> more methyl mercury. I'd like to understand this better.

>

> So my question is what happens if you have more organic than inorganic

> mercury? I had my amalgams out 7 years ago so this could be a

> possibility for me.

>

Organic mercury gets converted in the body to inorganic. It is likely

that most of the mercury is in the inorganic form.

> What is Andy's advice about the best chelator for organic Mercury?

I don't think he says. Organic Hg isn't all that toxic. It is when

it gets converted to inorganic that it is toxic. Avoiding high

mercury fish will avoid the most common source of organic mercury.

Because organic gets converted to inorganic we really need to be

concerned about chelating out the inorganic.

J

I

> could not find this in his book.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

This is not quite what he meant. You would use ala for any mercury

because your body converts it all into the same thing anyway. Both

forms are poison and make you sick. So it does not matter where you

got it from.

We all had most of ours from amalgams are using ala..this is his protocol.

AlA would not " create " more mercury...it can't do that. It is merely

an antioxidant that also has a binding property for mercury molecules.

>

> Hi All,

>

> In reading Andy's book again, he says that ALA will not help chelate

> (organic - methyl mercury). He mentions that sometimes it can create

> more methyl mercury. I'd like to understand this better.

>

> So my question is what happens if you have more organic than inorganic

> mercury? I had my amalgams out 7 years ago so this could be a

> possibility for me.

>

> What is Andy's advice about the best chelator for organic Mercury? I

> could not find this in his book.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

This is not quite what he meant. You would use ala for any mercury

because your body converts it all into the same thing anyway. Both

forms are poison and make you sick. So it does not matter where you

got it from.

We all had most of ours from amalgams are using ala..this is his protocol.

AlA would not " create " more mercury...it can't do that. It is merely

an antioxidant that also has a binding property for mercury molecules.

>

> Hi All,

>

> In reading Andy's book again, he says that ALA will not help chelate

> (organic - methyl mercury). He mentions that sometimes it can create

> more methyl mercury. I'd like to understand this better.

>

> So my question is what happens if you have more organic than inorganic

> mercury? I had my amalgams out 7 years ago so this could be a

> possibility for me.

>

> What is Andy's advice about the best chelator for organic Mercury? I

> could not find this in his book.

>

> Donna

>

[Guest guest]

Donna - ALA starts moving Hg around, so it causes an exacerbation of

symptoms - that's why vitamin C helps when one is in a chelation round.

If it doesn't exacerbate any symptoms, it's not moving any mercury.

As for creating more methyl mercury ... Is this something about some

bacteria in the gut that may take some of the mercury and methylate it?

I have a very vague memory here of something that was a very small

effect and that wasn't going to be a real issue, but this could be a

hallucination. Could you give us more details?

Dave..

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lindajaytee http://profiles.yahoo.com/lindajaytee>

Mon Mar 17, 2008 3:19 pm (PDT)

>

> Hi All,

>

> In reading Andy's book again, he says that ALA will not help chelate

> (organic - methyl mercury). He mentions that sometimes it can create

> more methyl mercury. I'd like to understand this better.

>

> So my question is what happens if you have more organic than inorganic

> mercury? I had my amalgams out 7 years ago so this could be a

> possibility for me.

>

Organic mercury gets converted in the body to inorganic. It is likely

that most of the mercury is in the inorganic form.

> What is Andy's advice about the best chelator for organic Mercury?

I don't think he says. Organic Hg isn't all that toxic. It is when

it gets converted to inorganic that it is toxic. Avoiding high

mercury fish will avoid the most common source of organic mercury.

Because organic gets converted to inorganic we really need to be

concerned about chelating out the inorganic.

J

I

> could not find this in his book.

>

> Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi and Dave,

More details on the organic vs. inorganic issue....I was reading Hal Huggins

book on detoxification and he says that methyl mercury is the organic form

and that the organic is 100 times more toxic to the immune system than the

inorganic form. Since Andy's says that LA would not be helpful to

methymercury poisoned patient, it's leads me to the question - is methyl

mercury stored in the brain or is it mostly organic that is likely there or

perhaps a combination depending on the person, diet, exposure etc.

Thanks for your feedback

Donna.

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi and Dave,

>

> More details on the organic vs. inorganic issue....I was reading Hal

Huggins

> book on detoxification and he says that methyl mercury is the

organic form

> and that the organic is 100 times more toxic to the immune system

than the

> inorganic form. Since Andy's says that LA would not be helpful to

> methymercury poisoned patient, it's leads me to the question - is

methyl

> mercury stored in the brain or is it mostly organic that is likely

there or

> perhaps a combination depending on the person, diet, exposure etc.

>

> Thanks for your feedback

>

> Donna.

>

Hi Donna,

Andy has said the brain has an affinity for organic mercury, but it

converts to inorganic mercury over time.

You'll find Andy's comments on this topic on this wiki page:

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol

See the " Movement of mercury " section and its subsections (organic and

inorganic mercury, brain clearance of mercury).

Jay

[Guest guest]

>

> Hi and Dave,

>

> More details on the organic vs. inorganic issue....I was reading Hal

Huggins

> book on detoxification and he says that methyl mercury is the

organic form

> and that the organic is 100 times more toxic to the immune system

than the

> inorganic form. Since Andy's says that LA would not be helpful to

> methymercury poisoned patient, it's leads me to the question - is

methyl

> mercury stored in the brain or is it mostly organic that is likely

there or

> perhaps a combination depending on the person, diet, exposure etc.

>

> Thanks for your feedback

>

> Donna.

>

Hi Donna,

Andy has said the brain has an affinity for organic mercury, but it

converts to inorganic mercury over time.

You'll find Andy's comments on this topic on this wiki page:

http://onibasu.com/wiki/Cutler_protocol

See the " Movement of mercury " section and its subsections (organic and

inorganic mercury, brain clearance of mercury).

Jay

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay:

Thanks, that link was great, Andy explained the differences in detail.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Hi Jay:

Thanks, that link was great, Andy explained the differences in detail.

Donna

[Guest guest]

Donna. I think had tried to explain that methyl-mercury is not

toxic - that's why fish methylate it, to keep the elemental mercury that

they are exposed to from damaging them. When you consume it, it is also

not toxic - but then, it demethylates, leaving behind the elemental

mercury that is highly toxic. The reason that methyl mercury is

considered so dangerous, is that as an organic form, it can cross the

blood brain barrier very easily. So, if you are exposed, it goes right

to your brain. First it sits there and does not much, but as it

demethylates, you become very very sick.

Ethyl mercury is also an organic mercury and more than 2 times as toxic

- in the sense that a much higher percentage of an exposure goes right

into the brain (90% vs 40%, if I remember). That's why a lot of

vaccinated people become sick gradually, over the period of months to a

year after a large number of vaccinations. That's certainly what

happened to me as a child - first an acute illness, including a herpes

infection, followed by a loong slow motion series of mercury poisoning

effects.

Dave.

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tarzdee http://profiles.yahoo.com/tarzdee>

Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:25 am (PDT)

Hi and Dave,

More details on the organic vs. inorganic issue....I was reading Hal Huggins

book on detoxification and he says that methyl mercury is the organic form

and that the organic is 100 times more toxic to the immune system than the

inorganic form. Since Andy's says that LA would not be helpful to

methymercury poisoned patient, it's leads me to the question - is methyl

mercury stored in the brain or is it mostly organic that is likely there or

perhaps a combination depending on the person, diet, exposure etc.

Thanks for your feedback

Donna.

[Guest guest]

Dave's explanation is pretty much how I understand it. see p 31 of

" Amalgam Illness "

J

>

> Donna. I think had tried to explain that methyl-mercury is not

> toxic - that's why fish methylate it, to keep the elemental mercury

that

> they are exposed to from damaging them. When you consume it, it is

also

> not toxic - but then, it demethylates, leaving behind the elemental

> mercury that is highly toxic. The reason that methyl mercury is

> considered so dangerous, is that as an organic form, it can cross the

> blood brain barrier very easily. So, if you are exposed, it goes right

> to your brain. First it sits there and does not much, but as it

> demethylates, you become very very sick.

>

> Ethyl mercury is also an organic mercury and more than 2 times as toxic

> - in the sense that a much higher percentage of an exposure goes right

> into the brain (90% vs 40%, if I remember). That's why a lot of

> vaccinated people become sick gradually, over the period of months to a

> year after a large number of vaccinations. That's certainly what

> happened to me as a child - first an acute illness, including a herpes

> infection, followed by a loong slow motion series of mercury poisoning

> effects.

>

> Dave.

>

>

> Posted by: " DD " dogsforus2@...

>

> tarzdee http://profiles.yahoo.com/tarzdee>

>

>

> Tue Mar 18, 2008 8:25 am (PDT)

>

> Hi and Dave,

>

> More details on the organic vs. inorganic issue....I was reading Hal

Huggins

> book on detoxification and he says that methyl mercury is the

organic form

> and that the organic is 100 times more toxic to the immune system

than the

> inorganic form. Since Andy's says that LA would not be helpful to

> methymercury poisoned patient, it's leads me to the question - is methyl

> mercury stored in the brain or is it mostly organic that is likely

there or

> perhaps a combination depending on the person, diet, exposure etc.

>

> Thanks for your feedback

>

> Donna.

>