OT - lyme disease

[Guest guest]

Does the slow phase 2 liver action of mercury toxicity also cause one

to not be able to remove lyme toxins (which are everywhere) just as it

has trouble removing chemicals and hydrocarbons?

Someone I know has serious chemical sensitivities, along with

exhaustion and all that stuff, and he's being treated for Lyme Disease.

I'm one of the CFS people and have similar symptoms and was treated for

Lyme too. (as well as mold and just about everything there is.)

Any connection between Lyme and mercury?

~robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin, I really do not know the answer to your question, but as a

person with lyme disease I do know that genetics can have something

to do with the capability of the body to release lyme toxins. Maybe

you are already familiar with this, but Dr. Ritchie Showmaker's

book " Mold Worriers " explains this fully. This book deals with both

mold and lyme. I am seeing a doctor that follows Dr. Showmaker's lyme

protocol, and was gene tested and do unfortunately have the holdback

genes for both lyme and mold toxins. If you want more information,

feel free to contact me. It has been a struggle, but I have improved.

V

>

> Does the slow phase 2 liver action of mercury toxicity also cause

one

> to not be able to remove lyme toxins (which are everywhere) just as

it

> has trouble removing chemicals and hydrocarbons?

>

> Someone I know has serious chemical sensitivities, along with

> exhaustion and all that stuff, and he's being treated for Lyme

Disease.

>

> I'm one of the CFS people and have similar symptoms and was treated

for

> Lyme too. (as well as mold and just about everything there is.)

>

> Any connection between Lyme and mercury?

>

> ~robin

>

[Guest guest]

> I do know that genetics can have something

> to do with the capability of the body to release lyme toxins. Maybe

> you are already familiar with this, but Dr. Ritchie Showmaker's

> book " Mold Worriers " explains this fully. This book deals with both

> mold and lyme. I am seeing a doctor that follows Dr. Showmaker's

> lyme protocol, and was gene tested and do unfortunately have the

> holdback genes for both lyme and mold toxins.

Yes, I had the " Shoemaker Panel " done too and have one out of two of

the " dreaded " multi-susceptible genes " . ( I thought it was interesting

that at least one of the two identified " Celiac genes " was one of the

mold (mycotoxin) susceptible genes.)

I don't know what I'd do without his Choley Resin -- it has helped when

I have to be in humid places and helped immensely on my recent long

stay in Hawaii.

I was just wondering if anyone had made a connection from mercury

toxicity to Ritchie's BioToxin Pathways? They both seem to affect

similar people...

~robin

[Guest guest]

Yes all this does seem quite coincidental. Just as a side note, I

have been diagnosed with celiac disease. I also have hashimotos. I

reek of autoimmune, even with lyme disease as I have been diagnosed

also with antibiotic refractory autoimmune lyme disease. My joint

pain never seems to cease. I am not familiar with Choley Resin. V

>

> > I do know that genetics can have something

> > to do with the capability of the body to release lyme toxins.

Maybe

> > you are already familiar with this, but Dr. Ritchie Showmaker's

> > book " Mold Worriers " explains this fully. This book deals with

both

> > mold and lyme. I am seeing a doctor that follows Dr. Showmaker's

> > lyme protocol, and was gene tested and do unfortunately have the

> > holdback genes for both lyme and mold toxins.

>

> Yes, I had the " Shoemaker Panel " done too and have one out of two

of

> the " dreaded " multi-susceptible genes " . ( I thought it was

interesting

> that at least one of the two identified " Celiac genes " was one of

the

> mold (mycotoxin) susceptible genes.)

>

> I don't know what I'd do without his Choley Resin -- it has helped

when

> I have to be in humid places and helped immensely on my recent long

> stay in Hawaii.

>

> I was just wondering if anyone had made a connection from mercury

> toxicity to Ritchie's BioToxin Pathways? They both seem to affect

> similar people...

>

> ~robin

>

[Guest guest]

> I am not familiar with Choley Resin. V

Hi and , Choley Resin is the basic ingredient in

something called Choleystyramine. Choleystyramine usually comes as a

drink with sugar or apartame and so that's why I get it compounded as

a power I mix with water.

It's supposed to be a drug used by people with high levels of " bad "

cholesterol. It's a physical agent; it " attaches to bile acids which

also contain the fatty cholesterol some people have a problem with.

That's the theory anyway.

Ritchie Shoemaker stumbled on the fact that people with biotoxin

illness, usually from mold, " sick " buildings, algea/fish toxins, and

so on, do better when on Choleystyramine -- It was a pure accident

when he treated someone with both heart problems and with an

environmental illness called pfisteria.

The theory is that mycotoxins, biotoxins and neurotoxins are all made

up of fatty cells and in some people, people who are identified by

genes to be predisposed to retaining toxic materials, these biotoxins

float in and out and around in their fatty tissues, never to be

eliminated.

These toxins can build up in about 24% of the population who have

these " susceptible genes (identified through the " Shoemaker Panel " .)

These toxins don't decompose, they're like nuclear waste, and your

body can just fill up to the brim and then you start becoming

mysteriously sick...

Since Choley Resin attaches to the fatty biotoxins and eliminated

through the normal ways, I felt immediate improvement in cognitive

function. I use it now only when I have to travel to humid climates

where these mold mycotoxins prevail.

Btw, I had to move from my house in Northern California to the high

clean air of the Rockie Mountains because tests showed I had

the " susceptible " genes and I was mysteriously getting sicker and

sicker over about 10 years of a water damaged house. (This was before

I knew about metals...)

It also obviously helped my health to get away from the mold in my

California house but I also think it was about getting away from ALL

the chemical metal-type toxins that abound in populated areas.

A doctor can order the choley resin from " The Compounding Pharmacist "

in Westchester, PA . In fact the pharmacist can tell you

more about it. Maybe you can get a sample? It's pretty benign stuff,

it tastes like sand and doesn't seem to involve liver pathways or

anything like that..

Hope that helps.

~robin

[Guest guest]

> I am not familiar with Choley Resin. V

Hi and , Choley Resin is the basic ingredient in

something called Choleystyramine. Choleystyramine usually comes as a

drink with sugar or apartame and so that's why I get it compounded as

a power I mix with water.

It's supposed to be a drug used by people with high levels of " bad "

cholesterol. It's a physical agent; it " attaches to bile acids which

also contain the fatty cholesterol some people have a problem with.

That's the theory anyway.

Ritchie Shoemaker stumbled on the fact that people with biotoxin

illness, usually from mold, " sick " buildings, algea/fish toxins, and

so on, do better when on Choleystyramine -- It was a pure accident

when he treated someone with both heart problems and with an

environmental illness called pfisteria.

The theory is that mycotoxins, biotoxins and neurotoxins are all made

up of fatty cells and in some people, people who are identified by

genes to be predisposed to retaining toxic materials, these biotoxins

float in and out and around in their fatty tissues, never to be

eliminated.

These toxins can build up in about 24% of the population who have

these " susceptible genes (identified through the " Shoemaker Panel " .)

These toxins don't decompose, they're like nuclear waste, and your

body can just fill up to the brim and then you start becoming

mysteriously sick...

Since Choley Resin attaches to the fatty biotoxins and eliminated

through the normal ways, I felt immediate improvement in cognitive

function. I use it now only when I have to travel to humid climates

where these mold mycotoxins prevail.

Btw, I had to move from my house in Northern California to the high

clean air of the Rockie Mountains because tests showed I had

the " susceptible " genes and I was mysteriously getting sicker and

sicker over about 10 years of a water damaged house. (This was before

I knew about metals...)

It also obviously helped my health to get away from the mold in my

California house but I also think it was about getting away from ALL

the chemical metal-type toxins that abound in populated areas.

A doctor can order the choley resin from " The Compounding Pharmacist "

in Westchester, PA . In fact the pharmacist can tell you

more about it. Maybe you can get a sample? It's pretty benign stuff,

it tastes like sand and doesn't seem to involve liver pathways or

anything like that..

Hope that helps.

~robin

[Guest guest]

> I am not familiar with Choley Resin. V

Hi and , Choley Resin is the basic ingredient in

something called Choleystyramine. Choleystyramine usually comes as a

drink with sugar or apartame and so that's why I get it compounded as

a power I mix with water.

It's supposed to be a drug used by people with high levels of " bad "

cholesterol. It's a physical agent; it " attaches to bile acids which

also contain the fatty cholesterol some people have a problem with.

That's the theory anyway.

Ritchie Shoemaker stumbled on the fact that people with biotoxin

illness, usually from mold, " sick " buildings, algea/fish toxins, and

so on, do better when on Choleystyramine -- It was a pure accident

when he treated someone with both heart problems and with an

environmental illness called pfisteria.

The theory is that mycotoxins, biotoxins and neurotoxins are all made

up of fatty cells and in some people, people who are identified by

genes to be predisposed to retaining toxic materials, these biotoxins

float in and out and around in their fatty tissues, never to be

eliminated.

These toxins can build up in about 24% of the population who have

these " susceptible genes (identified through the " Shoemaker Panel " .)

These toxins don't decompose, they're like nuclear waste, and your

body can just fill up to the brim and then you start becoming

mysteriously sick...

Since Choley Resin attaches to the fatty biotoxins and eliminated

through the normal ways, I felt immediate improvement in cognitive

function. I use it now only when I have to travel to humid climates

where these mold mycotoxins prevail.

Btw, I had to move from my house in Northern California to the high

clean air of the Rockie Mountains because tests showed I had

the " susceptible " genes and I was mysteriously getting sicker and

sicker over about 10 years of a water damaged house. (This was before

I knew about metals...)

It also obviously helped my health to get away from the mold in my

California house but I also think it was about getting away from ALL

the chemical metal-type toxins that abound in populated areas.

A doctor can order the choley resin from " The Compounding Pharmacist "

in Westchester, PA . In fact the pharmacist can tell you

more about it. Maybe you can get a sample? It's pretty benign stuff,

it tastes like sand and doesn't seem to involve liver pathways or

anything like that..

Hope that helps.

~robin

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin, welll duhhhhhhhh....I just didn't connect Choley Resin with

Cholestyramine/Questran. I unfortunately have the HLA DRB 15651 lyme

holdback gene and the HLA DRB 17252A mold holdback gene. I was on Dr.

Shoemaker's doxy/CSM protocol for 9 months. I also got it compounded

and just added the powder to water. Only I ordered it without the

stevia that is usually added...couldn't stand the taste. It did help

me quite a bit. Thanks. V

>

> > I am not familiar with Choley Resin. V

>

> Hi and , Choley Resin is the basic ingredient in

> something called Choleystyramine. Choleystyramine usually comes as

a

> drink with sugar or apartame and so that's why I get it compounded

as

> a power I mix with water.

>

> It's supposed to be a drug used by people with high levels of " bad "

> cholesterol. It's a physical agent; it " attaches to bile acids

which

> also contain the fatty cholesterol some people have a problem with.

> That's the theory anyway.

>

> Ritchie Shoemaker stumbled on the fact that people with biotoxin

> illness, usually from mold, " sick " buildings, algea/fish toxins,

and

> so on, do better when on Choleystyramine -- It was a pure accident

> when he treated someone with both heart problems and with an

> environmental illness called pfisteria.

>

> The theory is that mycotoxins, biotoxins and neurotoxins are all

made

> up of fatty cells and in some people, people who are identified by

> genes to be predisposed to retaining toxic materials, these

biotoxins

> float in and out and around in their fatty tissues, never to be

> eliminated.

>

> These toxins can build up in about 24% of the population who have

> these " susceptible genes (identified through the " Shoemaker

Panel " .)

>

> These toxins don't decompose, they're like nuclear waste, and your

> body can just fill up to the brim and then you start becoming

> mysteriously sick...

>

> Since Choley Resin attaches to the fatty biotoxins and eliminated

> through the normal ways, I felt immediate improvement in cognitive

> function. I use it now only when I have to travel to humid climates

> where these mold mycotoxins prevail.

>

> Btw, I had to move from my house in Northern California to the high

> clean air of the Rockie Mountains because tests showed I had

> the " susceptible " genes and I was mysteriously getting sicker and

> sicker over about 10 years of a water damaged house. (This was

before

> I knew about metals...)

>

> It also obviously helped my health to get away from the mold in my

> California house but I also think it was about getting away from

ALL

> the chemical metal-type toxins that abound in populated areas.

>

> A doctor can order the choley resin from " The Compounding

Pharmacist "

> in Westchester, PA . In fact the pharmacist can tell

you

> more about it. Maybe you can get a sample? It's pretty benign

stuff,

> it tastes like sand and doesn't seem to involve liver pathways or

> anything like that..

>

> Hope that helps.

>

> ~robin

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Robin, as a side note I ordered my CSM from a compound pharmacy in

California which I found to be much cheaper than anywhere else. They

ship the stuff all over the US. I guess there is a LLMD near there that

they work with also. BTW the drug is spelled with just one " y " ...

Cholestyramine. I did a search but couldn't find Choley Resin but did

pull it up with " choles resin " or " chole resin " . That's probably why I

didn't recognise it. Take care. V

>

> Hi and , Choley Resin is the basic ingredient in

> something called Choleystyramine.