Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 > > Can I get some help please. I have an appointment on Friday with the > doc to talk about chelation. What you need to be thinking about is what you might want this doctor for. Think of the appointment as an interview where you are deciding whether or not to hire this person. Have you seen him (or her) before? What was your impression? Is this a doctor who already has set ideas about chelation? or someone who is likely to be skeptical that mercury poisoning happens? or neutral? I just can't get my head around this. > for some reason it's not sinking in > > I have ordered the Amalgam book but it won't be here in time. > The book will help when you get it and start reading. For now you could consider this an appointment to draw out the doctors opinions on various subjects. > I'm struggling to find what I want to know but perhaps either I don't > understand or I am looking in the wrong place. > > Can someoneplease guide me in what I do. I don't know what I should do > before the removal, be it cleanses of some sort. There is no need to do any cleanses before removal. What you need to do is determine the diet that is most suitable for you and that will help you to heal. See the file " diet - how to pick the right one for your kid " in the files section. There isn't much the doctor can do to help you with that at first - you will need to experiment with foods on your own. If you get stuck an IgE/IgG food panel might help in future. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders those tests from any lab. See the link to " food allergy testing " in the links section. You will also need to have a supplement routine. You don't need a doctor for that. A useful test is the hair elements test from Doctor's Data Inc. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders these tests. If not, drop the subject fast. You can get the test without a doctor from www.directlabs.com (often doctors inflate the cost anyway). You could tell the doctor that you are concerned about possible hormone dysfunction and you would like to test for basic hormones (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA-S, there are others that the doctor would include in a standard panel). That information might be useful to you. Ask the doctor if he ever tests hormones with saliva testing. You could also say that you have some concern about thyroid function, ask about symptoms of hypothyroidism, and make sure that he includes free T3 and free T4 in the testing. Doctors usually do the standard tests (I forget the name of the panels) or possibly might want to do an annual physical exam, just to check out the standard things they usually check. There is no harm in that (I would have the physical exam once I was sure I had the right doctor). If fatigue, difficulty recovering from stress and infection are part of your symptoms you could ask the doctor what he thinks of using physiological doses of cortisol to treat adrenal insufficiency. That question can get mixed reactions anywhere from calm, gentle, discussion, to hysteria. > What should I do if I > can't get the DMSA etc. > ALA is available in any health food store. We have listed sources of small doses in the links section. There are also sources of DMSA in the links section. Obtaining those is not a problem. The only chelator that needs a doctor's prescription is DMPS. You could ask the doctor if he/she would be willing to prescribe DMPS in doses to be used on Andy Cutler's protocol. Even a blank stare would tell you something. > I can't comprehend anything at the moment, so if you can help that > would be great. > Try some deep breathing, relaxation. Doctors can be intimidating and it is often difficult to think in their offices. I find what works for me is to write all my questions out ahead of time. Good luck J > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 > > Can I get some help please. I have an appointment on Friday with the > doc to talk about chelation. What you need to be thinking about is what you might want this doctor for. Think of the appointment as an interview where you are deciding whether or not to hire this person. Have you seen him (or her) before? What was your impression? Is this a doctor who already has set ideas about chelation? or someone who is likely to be skeptical that mercury poisoning happens? or neutral? I just can't get my head around this. > for some reason it's not sinking in > > I have ordered the Amalgam book but it won't be here in time. > The book will help when you get it and start reading. For now you could consider this an appointment to draw out the doctors opinions on various subjects. > I'm struggling to find what I want to know but perhaps either I don't > understand or I am looking in the wrong place. > > Can someoneplease guide me in what I do. I don't know what I should do > before the removal, be it cleanses of some sort. There is no need to do any cleanses before removal. What you need to do is determine the diet that is most suitable for you and that will help you to heal. See the file " diet - how to pick the right one for your kid " in the files section. There isn't much the doctor can do to help you with that at first - you will need to experiment with foods on your own. If you get stuck an IgE/IgG food panel might help in future. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders those tests from any lab. See the link to " food allergy testing " in the links section. You will also need to have a supplement routine. You don't need a doctor for that. A useful test is the hair elements test from Doctor's Data Inc. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders these tests. If not, drop the subject fast. You can get the test without a doctor from www.directlabs.com (often doctors inflate the cost anyway). You could tell the doctor that you are concerned about possible hormone dysfunction and you would like to test for basic hormones (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA-S, there are others that the doctor would include in a standard panel). That information might be useful to you. Ask the doctor if he ever tests hormones with saliva testing. You could also say that you have some concern about thyroid function, ask about symptoms of hypothyroidism, and make sure that he includes free T3 and free T4 in the testing. Doctors usually do the standard tests (I forget the name of the panels) or possibly might want to do an annual physical exam, just to check out the standard things they usually check. There is no harm in that (I would have the physical exam once I was sure I had the right doctor). If fatigue, difficulty recovering from stress and infection are part of your symptoms you could ask the doctor what he thinks of using physiological doses of cortisol to treat adrenal insufficiency. That question can get mixed reactions anywhere from calm, gentle, discussion, to hysteria. > What should I do if I > can't get the DMSA etc. > ALA is available in any health food store. We have listed sources of small doses in the links section. There are also sources of DMSA in the links section. Obtaining those is not a problem. The only chelator that needs a doctor's prescription is DMPS. You could ask the doctor if he/she would be willing to prescribe DMPS in doses to be used on Andy Cutler's protocol. Even a blank stare would tell you something. > I can't comprehend anything at the moment, so if you can help that > would be great. > Try some deep breathing, relaxation. Doctors can be intimidating and it is often difficult to think in their offices. I find what works for me is to write all my questions out ahead of time. Good luck J > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 > > Can I get some help please. I have an appointment on Friday with the > doc to talk about chelation. What you need to be thinking about is what you might want this doctor for. Think of the appointment as an interview where you are deciding whether or not to hire this person. Have you seen him (or her) before? What was your impression? Is this a doctor who already has set ideas about chelation? or someone who is likely to be skeptical that mercury poisoning happens? or neutral? I just can't get my head around this. > for some reason it's not sinking in > > I have ordered the Amalgam book but it won't be here in time. > The book will help when you get it and start reading. For now you could consider this an appointment to draw out the doctors opinions on various subjects. > I'm struggling to find what I want to know but perhaps either I don't > understand or I am looking in the wrong place. > > Can someoneplease guide me in what I do. I don't know what I should do > before the removal, be it cleanses of some sort. There is no need to do any cleanses before removal. What you need to do is determine the diet that is most suitable for you and that will help you to heal. See the file " diet - how to pick the right one for your kid " in the files section. There isn't much the doctor can do to help you with that at first - you will need to experiment with foods on your own. If you get stuck an IgE/IgG food panel might help in future. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders those tests from any lab. See the link to " food allergy testing " in the links section. You will also need to have a supplement routine. You don't need a doctor for that. A useful test is the hair elements test from Doctor's Data Inc. You could ask the doctor if he ever orders these tests. If not, drop the subject fast. You can get the test without a doctor from www.directlabs.com (often doctors inflate the cost anyway). You could tell the doctor that you are concerned about possible hormone dysfunction and you would like to test for basic hormones (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA-S, there are others that the doctor would include in a standard panel). That information might be useful to you. Ask the doctor if he ever tests hormones with saliva testing. You could also say that you have some concern about thyroid function, ask about symptoms of hypothyroidism, and make sure that he includes free T3 and free T4 in the testing. Doctors usually do the standard tests (I forget the name of the panels) or possibly might want to do an annual physical exam, just to check out the standard things they usually check. There is no harm in that (I would have the physical exam once I was sure I had the right doctor). If fatigue, difficulty recovering from stress and infection are part of your symptoms you could ask the doctor what he thinks of using physiological doses of cortisol to treat adrenal insufficiency. That question can get mixed reactions anywhere from calm, gentle, discussion, to hysteria. > What should I do if I > can't get the DMSA etc. > ALA is available in any health food store. We have listed sources of small doses in the links section. There are also sources of DMSA in the links section. Obtaining those is not a problem. The only chelator that needs a doctor's prescription is DMPS. You could ask the doctor if he/she would be willing to prescribe DMPS in doses to be used on Andy Cutler's protocol. Even a blank stare would tell you something. > I can't comprehend anything at the moment, so if you can help that > would be great. > Try some deep breathing, relaxation. Doctors can be intimidating and it is often difficult to think in their offices. I find what works for me is to write all my questions out ahead of time. Good luck J > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 TK--- 's suggestions are very good - you may also want to reschedule your appointment until after you have read the book and are more prepared with written questions etc... > > Can I get some help please. I have an appointment on Friday with the > doc to talk about chelation. I just can't get my head around this. > for some reason it's not sinking in > > I have ordered the Amalgam book but it won't be here in time. > > I'm struggling to find what I want to know but perhaps either I don't > understand or I am looking in the wrong place. > > Can someoneplease guide me in what I do. I don't know what I should do > before the removal, be it cleanses of some sort. What should I do if I > can't get the DMSA etc. > > I can't comprehend anything at the moment, so if you can help that > would be great. > > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 TK--- 's suggestions are very good - you may also want to reschedule your appointment until after you have read the book and are more prepared with written questions etc... > > Can I get some help please. I have an appointment on Friday with the > doc to talk about chelation. I just can't get my head around this. > for some reason it's not sinking in > > I have ordered the Amalgam book but it won't be here in time. > > I'm struggling to find what I want to know but perhaps either I don't > understand or I am looking in the wrong place. > > Can someoneplease guide me in what I do. I don't know what I should do > before the removal, be it cleanses of some sort. What should I do if I > can't get the DMSA etc. > > I can't comprehend anything at the moment, so if you can help that > would be great. > > Thanks Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2008 Report Share Posted April 1, 2008 Thanks For the diet I am and have been gluten free for nearly two years. I don't have soy, or food that contain goitrogens due to having Hashi's. I think I am ok there. You will also need to have a supplement routine. What supplements would you recommend > You could tell the doctor that you are concerned about possible > hormone dysfunction and you would like to test for basic hormones > (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA-S, there are others that the doctor > would include in a standard panel). That information might be useful > to you. This is all under control. > > Ask the doctor if he ever tests hormones with saliva testing No I have to do that myself and I can't afford it at the moment. As it is I am getting help for my amalgam removal. > > You could also say that you have some concern about thyroid function, > ask about symptoms of hypothyroidism, and make sure that he includes > free T3 and free T4 in the testing. I'm on Natural thyroid similar to armour. > > Doctors usually do the standard tests All good here just had them done. > If fatigue, difficulty recovering from stress and infection are part > of your symptoms you could ask the doctor what he thinks of using > physiological doses of cortisol to treat adrenal insufficiency. I take 5mg of HC for adrenal fatigue this helps me in the afternoon from needing a nap. > > > > > > > ALA is available in any health food store. We have listed sources of > small doses in the links section. There are also sources of DMSA in > the links section. Obtaining those is not a problem. ALA is ok for me to get but have to look into the DMSA we have strick rules about meds here in NZ. It may be a prescribed drug. I also may have read this wrong but I thought the ALA couldn't be used until after 3 months of DMSA and the other. > > Thanks Margo > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 > > > You will also need to have a supplement routine. > > What supplements would you recommend > There is a short list in the files in the files section. Andy also has lists in " Amalgam Illness " , some that are essential for chelation and then he goes on to describe what other supplements do to support various organ systems. > > > > You could tell the doctor that you are concerned about possible > > hormone dysfunction and you would like to test for basic hormones > > (progesterone, testosterone, DHEA-S, there are others that the > doctor > > would include in a standard panel). That information might be > useful > > to you. > > This is all under control. > Is this doctor treating any of the low hormones? Dr. Lee's books are useful for this part, if you haven't already read them. > > > > Ask the doctor if he ever tests hormones with saliva testing > > No I have to do that myself and I can't afford it at the moment. As > it is I am getting help for my amalgam removal. > > > > You could also say that you have some concern about thyroid > function, > > ask about symptoms of hypothyroidism, and make sure that he includes > > free T3 and free T4 in the testing. > > I'm on Natural thyroid similar to armour. > Andy has said that the free T3 and free T4 need to be in the top 1/4 to 1/3 of the normal range. > > > > Doctors usually do the standard tests > > All good here just had them done. > > > If fatigue, difficulty recovering from stress and infection are part > > of your symptoms you could ask the doctor what he thinks of using > > physiological doses of cortisol to treat adrenal insufficiency. > > I take 5mg of HC for adrenal fatigue this helps me in the afternoon > from needing a nap. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ALA is available in any health food store. We have listed sources > of > > small doses in the links section. There are also sources of DMSA in > > the links section. Obtaining those is not a problem. > > ALA is ok for me to get but have to look into the DMSA we have strick > rules about meds here in NZ. It may be a prescribed drug. I also > may have read this wrong but I thought the ALA couldn't be used until > after 3 months of DMSA and the other. > > ALA can't be used until 3 months after amalgam removal. DMSA can be started about 4 days after amalgam removal. A person can chelate with ALA without DMSA (although many people find that DMSA helps them with the chelation side effects of ALA). J > > > Thanks Margo > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2008 Report Share Posted April 2, 2008 It seems like it is starting to fall into place now thank you. Finally! Will look into the supplement list and can't wait to get the book. Is this doctor treating any of the low hormones? Dr. Lee's books > are useful for this part, if you haven't already read them. I have Hashimoto's and am treating that at this stage. I have lowish DHEA but can't take DHEA without side effects. Doesn't matter how little I have. When taking it I didn't feel any better for it. > Andy has said that the free T3 and free T4 need to be in the top 1/4 > to 1/3 of the normal range. Yes that is getting there slowly, at least I am not at the bottom at the moment. ALA can't be used until 3 months after amalgam removal. DMSA can be started about 4 days after amalgam removal. A person can chelate with ALA without DMSA (although many people find that DMSA helps them with the chelation side effects of ALA). Thank you this helps alot Margo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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