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I've heard about them doing the St. ph's statue thing around here. I'm not Catholic either so if you figure out how to get one let me know. LOL Beverley Joy

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Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

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Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

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I've heard about them doing the St. ph's statue thing around here. I'm not Catholic either so if you figure out how to get one let me know. LOL Beverley Joy

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Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

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Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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linda

i am so sorry to hear about your daughter.

it only seems like yesterday since sara

was born. do you think that might have been

behind the ppd as she may have sensed

he was not all there. i could kick him for

you all. ive not got any advice sorry. i

know you will be a huge support for her.

may

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage difficulties. It's so horrible when she has two small children and just got through her battle with PPD. I will never understand how someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to have all those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to my ex. And regardless of what he did to her he is still the children's father and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are going through this and I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in the fall of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St ph upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done it. It always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do understand wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St ph you will come up with sites that sell "St ph Homeselling kits". Or any Catholic oriented religious good store will have St ph stautes. You won't be the first person of a different faith to ask for them...believe me!

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To: Breathe-support (AT) YahooSent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PMSubject: Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great

news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage difficulties. It's so horrible when she has two small children and just got through her battle with PPD. I will never understand how someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to have all those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to my ex. And regardless of what he did to her he is still the children's father and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are going through this and I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in the fall of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St ph upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done it. It always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do understand wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St ph you will come up with sites that sell "St ph Homeselling kits". Or any Catholic oriented religious good store will have St ph stautes. You won't be the first person of a different faith to ask for them...believe me!

Beth

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Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

To: Breathe-support (AT) YahooSent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PMSubject: Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great

news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

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I'm not a marriage counselor but I do have some experience and understanding of these situations. It is really something between the couple. They have to resolve the question of divorce, separation, or going on. In-laws are on the outside and should be available only when asked specific questions. Bite your tongue when one says "What'll I do?" Be generous with your hugs. Refrain from saying bad things about your child's spouse. They may come back to haunt you. Marital infidelities are as old as human kind. Men are genetically programmed to spread their seed as many times as they can. The idea of fidenlity came about when the Church made marriage a sacrament sometime around 1600. Not to excuse a husband's infidelities, but any honest man will tell it can darn difficult to resist. I speak from experience. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

To: Breathe-support (AT) YahooSent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PMSubject: Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great

news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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I'm not a marriage counselor but I do have some experience and understanding of these situations. It is really something between the couple. They have to resolve the question of divorce, separation, or going on. In-laws are on the outside and should be available only when asked specific questions. Bite your tongue when one says "What'll I do?" Be generous with your hugs. Refrain from saying bad things about your child's spouse. They may come back to haunt you. Marital infidelities are as old as human kind. Men are genetically programmed to spread their seed as many times as they can. The idea of fidenlity came about when the Church made marriage a sacrament sometime around 1600. Not to excuse a husband's infidelities, but any honest man will tell it can darn difficult to resist. I speak from experience. Jack79/IPF - UIP/dx06/05 Maine

To: Breathe-support (AT) YahooSent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PMSubject: Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great

news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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Hi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L.So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough, Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida,  IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."  Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are.  Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's  a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!!  She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart!  He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated--  Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PAAnd “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara      “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion”  Bob MarleyVinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower  

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Hi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L.So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough, Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida,  IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."  Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are.  Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's  a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!!  She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart!  He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated--  Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PAAnd “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara      “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion”  Bob MarleyVinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower  

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All you can do is love and support your daughter. Make sure she gets

personal counseling to deal with this. Any couples counseling would be

in addition or after that, but her knowing personally how she feels is

most important first.

I know the facts seem so straight forward but let me assure you that

nothing is as simple as it seems on the surface and especially involving

deep emotions. She needs to be allowed to experience her true emotions

without the influence of others on how they would feel or think she

should feel. Right now, many of you may hate him and she feels the

pressure to do so, but she still loves him in all likelihood. Hate is an

emotion very close to love because you only hate when its someone you

really do care about. It is not the opposite of love. The opposite is

ambivalence.

Others have mentioned not bad mouthing him and thats important for her

and for the kids. I don't recall the age of the oldest, but rest assured

the oldest does know far more than you believe and will, somehow, get

parts of everything said. They already feel rejected right now by their

father, regardless of how much they're told.

Right now you're dealing in a world of mostly unknowns. No one knows

(not even your daughter and son-in-law) what truly led to this and all

that has taken place. They know what just happened and it is certainly

terribly wrong on his part but not why. Neither has a very good grasp of

their true deep emotions today. What they are probably expressing openly

is more the way they think others believe they should feel than their

true feelings. And, no one knows what the future brings. So, the past,

present, and future are a sea of confusion and varying but quite intense

emotions.

So just love and support and see that your daughter gets any help she

needs. However, she is the only one who can sort through her feelings,

her desires, and how she can deal emotionally with it all. She does need

to be talking to someone that she can open up to even more than she can

to her mother and who can guide her in understanding and dealing

effectively with all the overwhelming emotions.

As an aside little rant, I'm afraid we live in a world that is every day

destroying relationships in devastating manners. The reality is that

most today, especially younger people, are overwhelmed with stress, with

work, with long hours, with worrying about jobs, with financial issues,

with the worries of war, with everything going on. In this country, the

average person is working more hours per year than anywhere else in the

world. Whats left often times is neither the time nor the emotional

energy to do what is necessary to maintain and strengthen relationships.

I know. I worked 65 hours per week and commuted another 12 hours or so a

week and just tried to survive day to day. This is not just destroying

marriages but doing the same to children as it leaves them without

parents when one or both is there so little and so drained when they are

there. This in no way excuses many of the actions but rest assured it

does lead to more and more of them. Many of the actions are an attempt

to escape from the real world, whether through alcohol, drugs or through

sex with others. Often it is a very sad attempt to self medicate. I'm

not speaking of the situation with 's daughter and son-in-law, but

just what all young people are facing today.

I see even high school kids stressed out with more pressure than ever.

They have so many commitments between school and their extra-curricular

activities. Some are in so many clubs or activities. Then when they have

a couple of hours they can steal for themselves, they try to pack days

of pleasure into hours and they do everything in excess to strive for

instant gratification. They are still kids but not really allowed to be

kids much of the time.

I've learned so much about myself and life in the last four years. Thats

how I can be having the best time of my life after diagnosis with a

terminal disease. My life is simpler and slower and I have a firm grasp

on whats important in it. Furthermore, I don't sell out. I don't put off

what I want to do, don't spend time with those who are unhealthy for me.

Learning to live happily is what we need to be stressing to and teaching

our young people.

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and

the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with

that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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All you can do is love and support your daughter. Make sure she gets

personal counseling to deal with this. Any couples counseling would be

in addition or after that, but her knowing personally how she feels is

most important first.

I know the facts seem so straight forward but let me assure you that

nothing is as simple as it seems on the surface and especially involving

deep emotions. She needs to be allowed to experience her true emotions

without the influence of others on how they would feel or think she

should feel. Right now, many of you may hate him and she feels the

pressure to do so, but she still loves him in all likelihood. Hate is an

emotion very close to love because you only hate when its someone you

really do care about. It is not the opposite of love. The opposite is

ambivalence.

Others have mentioned not bad mouthing him and thats important for her

and for the kids. I don't recall the age of the oldest, but rest assured

the oldest does know far more than you believe and will, somehow, get

parts of everything said. They already feel rejected right now by their

father, regardless of how much they're told.

Right now you're dealing in a world of mostly unknowns. No one knows

(not even your daughter and son-in-law) what truly led to this and all

that has taken place. They know what just happened and it is certainly

terribly wrong on his part but not why. Neither has a very good grasp of

their true deep emotions today. What they are probably expressing openly

is more the way they think others believe they should feel than their

true feelings. And, no one knows what the future brings. So, the past,

present, and future are a sea of confusion and varying but quite intense

emotions.

So just love and support and see that your daughter gets any help she

needs. However, she is the only one who can sort through her feelings,

her desires, and how she can deal emotionally with it all. She does need

to be talking to someone that she can open up to even more than she can

to her mother and who can guide her in understanding and dealing

effectively with all the overwhelming emotions.

As an aside little rant, I'm afraid we live in a world that is every day

destroying relationships in devastating manners. The reality is that

most today, especially younger people, are overwhelmed with stress, with

work, with long hours, with worrying about jobs, with financial issues,

with the worries of war, with everything going on. In this country, the

average person is working more hours per year than anywhere else in the

world. Whats left often times is neither the time nor the emotional

energy to do what is necessary to maintain and strengthen relationships.

I know. I worked 65 hours per week and commuted another 12 hours or so a

week and just tried to survive day to day. This is not just destroying

marriages but doing the same to children as it leaves them without

parents when one or both is there so little and so drained when they are

there. This in no way excuses many of the actions but rest assured it

does lead to more and more of them. Many of the actions are an attempt

to escape from the real world, whether through alcohol, drugs or through

sex with others. Often it is a very sad attempt to self medicate. I'm

not speaking of the situation with 's daughter and son-in-law, but

just what all young people are facing today.

I see even high school kids stressed out with more pressure than ever.

They have so many commitments between school and their extra-curricular

activities. Some are in so many clubs or activities. Then when they have

a couple of hours they can steal for themselves, they try to pack days

of pleasure into hours and they do everything in excess to strive for

instant gratification. They are still kids but not really allowed to be

kids much of the time.

I've learned so much about myself and life in the last four years. Thats

how I can be having the best time of my life after diagnosis with a

terminal disease. My life is simpler and slower and I have a firm grasp

on whats important in it. Furthermore, I don't sell out. I don't put off

what I want to do, don't spend time with those who are unhealthy for me.

Learning to live happily is what we need to be stressing to and teaching

our young people.

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and

the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with

that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

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Peggy - prayers are happening NOW.

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Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:27:00 AMSubject: Re: Selling houses and family newsHi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L.

So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.

Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough,

Love & Prayers, Peggy

Florida, IPF/UIP 2004

"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet,

when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while

back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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Barbara McD

IPF, Sept 08

Beautiful Western NC

Let us not become weary in doing good, for at the proper time we will reap a harvest if we do not give up. Galatians 6:9

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 10:27:00 AMSubject: Re: Selling houses and family newsHi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L.

So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.

Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough,

Love & Prayers, Peggy

Florida, IPF/UIP 2004

"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet,

when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while

back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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LInda Z.

I am so sorry to hear about the bad news about your daughter and your

s-n-l. I don't know what to do or say but I am praying for all of you.

Toodles!

Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl

>

> ,

> I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage difficulties.

It's so horrible when she has two small children and just got

through her battle with PPD. I will never understand howÂ

someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for

me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her

and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand

her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to

bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about

this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to haveÂ

all those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to

my ex. And regardless of what he did to her he is still the

children's father and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are

going through this and I will keep you all in my thoughts and

prayers.

>

> I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is

a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in

the fall of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St

ph upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done

it. It always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do

understand wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St

ph you will come up with sites that sell " St ph Homeselling

kits " . Or any Catholic oriented religious good store will have

St ph stautes. You won't be the first person of a different faith to

ask for them...believe me!

> Â

> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Zion ljz741@...

> To: Breathe-support@...

> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PM

> Subject: Selling houses and family news

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other

house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious

thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and

the rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

>

> Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his

folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with

him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with

that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

>

> --

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

> And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara Â

  Â

> “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â Bob

Marley

> Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

>

>

> Â

> Â

>

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LInda Z.

I am so sorry to hear about the bad news about your daughter and your

s-n-l. I don't know what to do or say but I am praying for all of you.

Toodles!

Jane UIP/IPF 12/1998 Dalton, Georgia aka pianolady_musicgirl

>

> ,

> I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage difficulties.

It's so horrible when she has two small children and just got

through her battle with PPD. I will never understand howÂ

someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for

me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her

and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand

her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to

bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about

this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to haveÂ

all those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to

my ex. And regardless of what he did to her he is still the

children's father and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are

going through this and I will keep you all in my thoughts and

prayers.

>

> I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is

a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in

the fall of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St

ph upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done

it. It always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do

understand wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St

ph you will come up with sites that sell " St ph Homeselling

kits " . Or any Catholic oriented religious good store will have

St ph stautes. You won't be the first person of a different faith to

ask for them...believe me!

> Â

> Beth

> Moderator

> Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Zion ljz741@...

> To: Breathe-support@...

> Sent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PM

> Subject: Selling houses and family news

>

>

>

>

>

> Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other

house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious

thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and

the rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

>

> Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his

folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with

him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with

that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

>

> --

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

> And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara Â

  Â

> “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â Bob

Marley

> Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

>

>

> Â

> Â

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OH my !You certainly have alot deal with right now!

Being raised Catholic you would think I would have known about the St. ph's

statue thing long before adulthood. Oddly enough I learned about it from a

client of mine 2 years ago when I was still working as a Realtor. I was told

you bury the statue face down and some people even believe you should point the

head of the statue in the direction you wish to be moving (ie. north, south,

east, west.)

About your daughter's situation:I know your heart is breaking for your daughter

right now. We mothers can't help but to hurt for our children (young or

grown)when they hurting and have been wronged by someone else. I have always

said the best gift my parents have given me was my independence. Many years ago

when I was going through a similar situation I could see the pain in my parents.

To my relief they remained quietly supportive and only gave advice when asked.

What they did best for me at the time was " listen. "

Considering your daughter has a history of PPD it is important that she remains

mindful of her symptoms of depression. She is going through a tramatic

experience and it can easily spark another bout of depression. If you start to

see the symptoms don't be affraid to tell her so she can get the help she needs.

I'll be praying for you and your family.

33 FL

IPF dx 1/06

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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Peggy.... lots of prayers for you...love ya

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Selling houses and family news

Hi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L.

So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.

Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough,

Love & Prayers, Peggy

Florida, �IPF/UIP 2004

"I believe that friends are quiet angels�who lift us to our feet,�

when our wings�have trouble remembering how to fly."�

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are.� Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's� a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue�an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she�found out on Sunday!!� She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's�really torn apart!� He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--�

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And �mild� PH/10/07 and Reynaud�s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted�I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara� ����

�I�m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion�� Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

�

�

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Prayers and hugs from me, Peggy. Take care. Love ya!! CaroOSTEOARTHRITIS 2002, COPD 02/06, IPF 08/07, UIP 01/08, RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS 03/08 SJOGREN SYNDROME 07/08 POLYMYOSITIS/DERMATOMYOSITIS 03/09 CANCER OF UNKNOWN ORIGIN 03/09Mississippi

To: Breathe-Support Sent: Wednesday, May 6, 2009 5:08:27 PMSubject: Re: Selling houses and family news

 Peggy.... lots of prayers for you...love ya

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Selling houses and family news

Hi , I just want to caution you, when my son divoiced the stress sent me from4L to 8L. So try to stay calm and as uninvolved as you can. easier said than donr.

Group pray for me today I am really having a hard time this AM. breathing and unrelenting cough,

Love & Prayers, Peggy

Florida, �IPF/UIP 2004

"I believe that friends are quiet angels�who lift us to our feet,�

when our wings�have trouble remembering how to fly."�

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are.� Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's� a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue�an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she�found out on Sunday!!� She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's�really torn apart!� He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--�

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And �mild� PH/10/07 and Reynaud�s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted�I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara� ����

�I�m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion�� Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

�

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Oh a big ((())) for your daughter , what a rat (and that is very mild to what I want to write as I feel my lappy would start smoking from all the expletives). Whether he agrees to counselling or not the ball is very much in your daughters court. It's down to her to take her time and decide what SHE wants now. As far as I'm concerned he has lost any privillages here. I hope she gets herself sorted soon, poor love.

Trying to sell houses is a bugger over here too. I don't know if you're much different in the way you sell over there, but odd tips we have here are thing like have some coffee beans gently roasting to make the house smell wonderfully homely. Most people, even if they don't like to drink coffee, love the smell of it. Good luck with that

Love Ze xx

>> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other > house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!> Yes...I said 16 months!!!> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take > a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. > my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point > I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!> That's my chuckle for tonight.> > It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the > rest of the week doesn't look much better.> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!> *> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for > divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. > Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks > and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had > become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!> Any advice would be appreciated> > -- > > > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA> > > And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!> > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!> > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara > > "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion" Bob Marley*> > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*>

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, Thanks for the

comments... went to her therapist already...got the meds she

needed

and has inquired about couple counseling. My heart is just broken

about all of this.

It took them 3 long years to have Sara...many failed AI's and one

failed IVF before the miracle of Sara.

He was the most loving and supportive man..he gave her the shots

throughout the IVF..he took charge of everything

when she was ill with the PPD. He took care of her and the baby. Now

to find out that he cheated during that

very nerve wracking pregnancy and since Sara was born too....I just am

having a difficult time getting my brain around

it at all.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And

“mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No,

NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m

gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

hunnybunnybinky wrote:

OH my !You certainly have alot deal with right now!

Being raised Catholic you would think I would have known about the St.

ph's statue thing long before adulthood. Oddly enough I learned

about it from a client of mine 2 years ago when I was still working as

a Realtor. I was told you bury the statue face down and some people

even believe you should point the head of the statue in the direction

you wish to be moving (ie. north, south, east, west.)

About your daughter's situation:I know your heart is breaking for your

daughter right now. We mothers can't help but to hurt for our children

(young or grown)when they hurting and have been wronged by someone

else. I have always said the best gift my parents have given me was my

independence. Many years ago when I was going through a similar

situation I could see the pain in my parents. To my relief they

remained quietly supportive and only gave advice when asked. What they

did best for me at the time was "listen."

Considering your daughter has a history of PPD it is important that she

remains mindful of her symptoms of depression. She is going through a

tramatic experience and it can easily spark another bout of depression.

If you start to see the symptoms don't be affraid to tell her so she

can get the help she needs.

I'll be praying for you and your family.

33 FL

IPF dx 1/06

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious

thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if

you take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this

point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the

place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days

and the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his

folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away

with that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They

had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion" Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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Bruce,

Thanks for your insight.. and Kurt just have the miracle baby

Sara.

She's now 14 months old

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And

“mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No,

NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m

gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Bruce Moreland wrote:

All you can do is love and support your daughter. Make sure she gets

personal counseling to deal with this. Any couples counseling would be

in addition or after that, but her knowing personally how she feels is

most important first.

I know the facts seem so straight forward but let me assure you that

nothing is as simple as it seems on the surface and especially involving

deep emotions. She needs to be allowed to experience her true emotions

without the influence of others on how they would feel or think she

should feel. Right now, many of you may hate him and she feels the

pressure to do so, but she still loves him in all likelihood. Hate is an

emotion very close to love because you only hate when its someone you

really do care about. It is not the opposite of love. The opposite is

ambivalence.

Others have mentioned not bad mouthing him and thats important for her

and for the kids. I don't recall the age of the oldest, but rest assured

the oldest does know far more than you believe and will, somehow, get

parts of everything said. They already feel rejected right now by their

father, regardless of how much they're told.

Right now you're dealing in a world of mostly unknowns. No one knows

(not even your daughter and son-in-law) what truly led to this and all

that has taken place. They know what just happened and it is certainly

terribly wrong on his part but not why. Neither has a very good grasp of

their true deep emotions today. What they are probably expressing openly

is more the way they think others believe they should feel than their

true feelings. And, no one knows what the future brings. So, the past,

present, and future are a sea of confusion and varying but quite intense

emotions.

So just love and support and see that your daughter gets any help she

needs. However, she is the only one who can sort through her feelings,

her desires, and how she can deal emotionally with it all. She does need

to be talking to someone that she can open up to even more than she can

to her mother and who can guide her in understanding and dealing

effectively with all the overwhelming emotions.

As an aside little rant, I'm afraid we live in a world that is every day

destroying relationships in devastating manners. The reality is that

most today, especially younger people, are overwhelmed with stress, with

work, with long hours, with worrying about jobs, with financial issues,

with the worries of war, with everything going on. In this country, the

average person is working more hours per year than anywhere else in the

world. Whats left often times is neither the time nor the emotional

energy to do what is necessary to maintain and strengthen relationships.

I know. I worked 65 hours per week and commuted another 12 hours or so a

week and just tried to survive day to day. This is not just destroying

marriages but doing the same to children as it leaves them without

parents when one or both is there so little and so drained when they are

there. This in no way excuses many of the actions but rest assured it

does lead to more and more of them. Many of the actions are an attempt

to escape from the real world, whether through alcohol, drugs or through

sex with others. Often it is a very sad attempt to self medicate. I'm

not speaking of the situation with 's daughter and son-in-law, but

just what all young people are facing today.

I see even high school kids stressed out with more pressure than ever.

They have so many commitments between school and their extra-curricular

activities. Some are in so many clubs or activities. Then when they have

a couple of hours they can steal for themselves, they try to pack days

of pleasure into hours and they do everything in excess to strive for

instant gratification. They are still kids but not really allowed to be

kids much of the time.

I've learned so much about myself and life in the last four years. Thats

how I can be having the best time of my life after diagnosis with a

terminal disease. My life is simpler and slower and I have a firm grasp

on whats important in it. Furthermore, I don't sell out. I don't put off

what I want to do, don't spend time with those who are unhealthy for me.

Learning to live happily is what we need to be stressing to and teaching

our young people.

>

> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious

thing.

> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take

> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now..

> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this

point

> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the

place!!!

> That's my chuckle for tonight.

>

> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and

the

> rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

> *

> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess.

> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his

folks

> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away

with

that!!!

> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> Any advice would be appreciated

>

> --

>

>

> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

>

>

> And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

>

> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

>

> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

>

> "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion" Bob Marley*

>

> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

>

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Beth, Just has 

MIRACLE Sara. My other Grand daughter Darah is Adam's child.

So..I'm just a mess over one granddaughter and and Kurt.

Z fibriotic NSIP/05

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And

“mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No,

NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter,

reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara      

“I’m

gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â  Bob Marley

Vinca

Minor-periwinkle is my flower

 

 

Beth wrote:

,

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage

difficulties. It's so horrible when she has two small children and just

got through her battle with PPD. I will never understand

how someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for

me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her

and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand

her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to

bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about

this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to have all

those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to my ex.

And regardless of what he did to her he is still the children's father

and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are going through this

and I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

 

I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is

a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in the fall

of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St ph

upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done it. It

always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do understand

wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St ph you

will come up with sites that sell "St ph Homeselling kits".  Or

any Catholic oriented religious good store will have St ph stautes.

You won't be the first person of a different faith to ask for

them...believe me!

 

Beth

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From:

Zion <ljz741 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>

To: Breathe-support (AT) Yahoo

Sent: Tuesday, May 5,

2009 11:34:41 PM

Subject:

Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house

like we are.  Our other house has been on the market for 16

months!!!!!

Yes...I said 16 months!!!

I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's  a religious thing.

One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you

take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now..

my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point

I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!

That's my chuckle for tonight.

It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the

rest of the week doesn't look much better.

Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

rain!!!!!

Now for not great news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed

for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

found out on Sunday!!  She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

really torn apart!  He's moved out today for a while back to his folks

and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he

betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with

that!!!

My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had

become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s

too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I

never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and

MomMom to Darah and Sara      

“I’m

gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â  Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my

flower

 

 

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I'm afraid you'll find out that all you've described is quite commonly

coupled with problems such as cheating and others. You'd think it would

bring a couple closer, but its a tremendous amount of stress and

inadequacy and mood swings and depression. Sometimes being the most

loving supporting man is just too much and more than one can handle. I'm

in no way excusing any of what he did, but the circumstances you

describe I think are accompanied by far more events such as cheating

than you might imagine. Many couples fight so hard to have a baby or

babies and then after the fight is successful things fall apart.

I wish strength and good luck to all of you, parents on both sides, your

daughter, and your son-in-law. Everyone is in tremendous pain right now.

> > >

> > > *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other

> > > house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!

> > > Yes...I said 16 months!!!

> > > I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious

thing.

> > > One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if

you

> > take

> > > a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN

> > > hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.

Now..

> > > my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue

> > > an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this

point

> > > I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the

place!!!

> > > That's my chuckle for tonight.

> > >

> > > It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days

and the

> > > rest of the week doesn't look much better.

> > > Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and

> > rain!!!!!

> > > *

> > > Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for

> > > divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she

> > > found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total

mess.

> > > Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's

> > > really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his

folks

> > > and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with

him...he

> > > betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away

with

> > that!!!

> > > My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They

had

> > > become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!

> > > Any advice would be appreciated

> > >

> > > --

> > >

> > >

> > > Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

> > >

> > >

> > > And " mild " PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!

> > >

> > > No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!

> > >

> > > Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

> > >

> > > " *I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion " Bob Marley*

> > >

> > > *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*

> > >

> >

> >

>

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...I'm popping in here to let you know I've read your posts and I'm so sorry to hear about the family troubles going on.

I think Bruce said it well and I can't add much more.

There is such a feeling of betrayal when a person is unfaithful in their marriage.

It would be my guess it had nothing to do with ....guys who cheat, especially more than once, tend to be self-centered and selfish. And that too is hard to accept in a person that you thought you knew and love.

I'm so sorry ....

MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there!

Re: Re: Selling houses and family news

Bruce, Thanks for your insight.. and Kurt just have the miracle baby Sara.She's now 14 months old

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Bruce Moreland wrote:

All you can do is love and support your daughter. Make sure she getspersonal counseling to deal with this. Any couples counseling would bein addition or after that, but her knowing personally how she feels ismost important first.I know the facts seem so straight forward but let me assure you thatnothing is as simple as it seems on the surface and especially involvingdeep emotions. She needs to be allowed to experience her true emotionswithout the influence of others on how they would feel or think sheshould feel. Right now, many of you may hate him and she feels thepressure to do so, but she still loves him in all likelihood. Hate is anemotion very close to love because you only hate when its someone youreally do care about. It is not the opposite of love. The opposite isambivalence.Others have mentioned not bad mouthing him and thats important for herand for the kids. I don't recall the age of the oldest, but rest assuredthe oldest does know far more than you believe and will, somehow, getparts of everything said. They already feel rejected right now by theirfather, regardless of how much they're told.Right now you're dealing in a world of mostly unknowns. No one knows(not even your daughter and son-in-law) what truly led to this and allthat has taken place. They know what just happened and it is certainlyterribly wrong on his part but not why. Neither has a very good grasp oftheir true deep emotions today. What they are probably expressing openlyis more the way they think others believe they should feel than theirtrue feelings. And, no one knows what the future brings. So, the past,present, and future are a sea of confusion and varying but quite intenseemotions.So just love and support and see that your daughter gets any help sheneeds. However, she is the only one who can sort through her feelings,her desires, and how she can deal emotionally with it all. She does needto be talking to someone that she can open up to even more than she canto her mother and who can guide her in understanding and dealingeffectively with all the overwhelming emotions.As an aside little rant, I'm afraid we live in a world that is every daydestroying relationships in devastating manners. The reality is thatmost today, especially younger people, are overwhelmed with stress, withwork, with long hours, with worrying about jobs, with financial issues,with the worries of war, with everything going on. In this country, theaverage person is working more hours per year than anywhere else in theworld. Whats left often times is neither the time nor the emotionalenergy to do what is necessary to maintain and strengthen relationships.I know. I worked 65 hours per week and commuted another 12 hours or so aweek and just tried to survive day to day. This is not just destroyingmarriages but doing the same to children as it leaves them withoutparents when one or both is there so little and so drained when they arethere. This in no way excuses many of the actions but rest assured itdoes lead to more and more of them. Many of the actions are an attemptto escape from the real world, whether through alcohol, drugs or throughsex with others. Often it is a very sad attempt to self medicate. I'mnot speaking of the situation with 's daughter and son-in-law, butjust what all young people are facing today.I see even high school kids stressed out with more pressure than ever.They have so many commitments between school and their extra-curricularactivities. Some are in so many clubs or activities. Then when they havea couple of hours they can steal for themselves, they try to pack daysof pleasure into hours and they do everything in excess to strive forinstant gratification. They are still kids but not really allowed to bekids much of the time.I've learned so much about myself and life in the last four years. Thatshow I can be having the best time of my life after diagnosis with aterminal disease. My life is simpler and slower and I have a firm graspon whats important in it. Furthermore, I don't sell out. I don't put offwhat I want to do, don't spend time with those who are unhealthy for me.Learning to live happily is what we need to be stressing to and teachingour young people.>> *Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are*. Our other> house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!> Yes...I said 16 months!!!> I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.> One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if youtake> a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWN> hidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly.Now..> my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue> an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point> I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!> That's my chuckle for tonight.>> It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days andthe> rest of the week doesn't look much better.> Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's andrain!!!!!> *> Now for not great news..*.my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for> divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she> found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a totalmess.> Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's> really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks> and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...he> betrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away withthat!!!> My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had> become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!> Any advice would be appreciated>> -->>> Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA>>> And "mild" PH/10/07 and Reynaud's too!!>> No, NSIP was not self-inflicted...I never smoked!>> Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara>> "*I'm gonna be iron like a lion in Zion" Bob Marley*>> *Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower*>

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,

Sorry about my confusion....my one size fits all reason is oxygen deprivation. I still can't wrap my mind around an adult doing this to someone he loves and cares for. Makes me shake my head in bewilderment.

Just love your daughter and your gorgeous baby granddaughter. They are all that matters right now.

Beth

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To: Breathe-Support Sent: Thursday, May 7, 2009 11:53:12 AMSubject: Re: Selling houses and family news

Beth, Just has MIRACLE Sara. My other Grand daughter Darah is Adam's child.So..I'm just a mess over one granddaughter and and Kurt.

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

Beth wrote:

,

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's marriage difficulties. It's so horrible when she has two small children and just got through her battle with PPD. I will never understand how someone could do this to their spouse. It just doesn't add up for me. The only advice I would have is to love your daughter. Support her and love her in any way you can. Listen when she needs to talk and hand her kleenex when all she can do is cry. Resist if you can the urge to bad mouth your sil in front of her. My parents were very cautious about this when my marriage broke up. I think they didn't want to have all those negative words in my memory if I had decided to go back to my ex. And regardless of what he did to her he is still the children's father and that won't change. Again I am so sorry you are going through this and I will keep you all in my thoughts and prayers.

I had no idea your house is still on the market. 16 months is a very long time. My house in NY sold in about 9 weeks back in the fall of 07. We were lucky. I am Catholic and we did not bury poor St ph upside down in the yard though I know many people who have done it. It always struck me as a bit silly and superstitious but I do understand wanting to try anything after 16 months. If you google St ph you will come up with sites that sell "St ph Homeselling kits". Or any Catholic oriented religious good store will have St ph stautes. You won't be the first person of a different faith to ask for them...believe me!

Beth

Moderator

Fibrotic NSIP 06/06 Dermatomyositis 11/08

From: Zion <ljz741 (AT) verizon (DOT) net>To: Breathe-support@ Yahoogroups. comSent: Tuesday, May 5, 2009 11:34:41 PMSubject: Selling houses and family news

Hello to all those trying to sell a house like we are. Our other house has been on the market for 16 months!!!!!Yes...I said 16 months!!!I just heard of a novel way to get it sold...it's a religious thing.One of the ladies in my garden club said that she heard that if you take a St. ph's statue and bury it in the ground UPSIDE DOWNhidden from view on your property...your house will sell quickly. Now.. my being Jewish is making the getting such a statue an interesting adventure! It sounds sort of silly...but at this point I'd dance on my lawn in a stupid costume if it would sell the place!!!That's my chuckle for tonight.It's been raining and just plain miserable for that past 3 days and the rest of the week doesn't look much better.Last week we were having a 90+ degree heatwave and now 50's and rain!!!!!Now for not great

news...my daughter and s-i-l may be headed for divorce!!!!He has cheated on her several times and she found out on Sunday!! She's devastated, angry, and really a total mess. Especially since she had the PPD after Sara was born she's really torn apart! He's moved out today for a while back to his folks and hopefully he'll agree to counseling. I'm so angry with him...hebetrayed us all!!! and he hurt my daughter and no one gets away with that!!!My husband is ready to kill him, his folks are speechless. They had become more than in-laws...we really were friends!!!Any advice would be appreciated

--

Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA

And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!

No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!

Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara

“I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley

Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower

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