Guest guest Posted May 19, 2009 Report Share Posted May 19, 2009 and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis! They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose! The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems. she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do something to make things go forward.... Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote ) Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!! Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!! I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now. The anger is so raw. The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want to to have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible. They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z fibriotic NSIP/05 Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower wrote: Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback....you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again? I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage! How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cheers, GIO > > HELLO ALL >  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island >                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP > > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.†> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm surprised the therapist didn't tell them to keep their sessions private couples therapists usually meet with the couple together (if both are willing to go), then they meet with them separately, (sometimes the children are included at some point, depends on the age) then they meet with them as a couple again the number of times for each type of meeting varies with each couple and each individual Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: and KurtTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:23 AM and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis!They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose!The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems.she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do somethingto make things go forward....Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote )Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!!Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!!I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now.The anger is so raw.The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want toto have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible.They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower wrote: Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback.... you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again? I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage! How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cheers, GIO >> HELLO ALL>  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island>                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP> > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€Â> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I'm surprised the therapist didn't tell them to keep their sessions private couples therapists usually meet with the couple together (if both are willing to go), then they meet with them separately, (sometimes the children are included at some point, depends on the age) then they meet with them as a couple again the number of times for each type of meeting varies with each couple and each individual Pink Joyce (IPF 3/06) IFA 5/09 Pennsylvania Donate Life Listed 1/09 Inactive 4/09 www.transplantfund.org--- Subject: Re: and KurtTo: Breathe-Support Date: Wednesday, May 20, 2009, 12:23 AM and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis!They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose!The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems.she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do somethingto make things go forward....Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote )Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!!Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!!I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now.The anger is so raw.The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want toto have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible.They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion†Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower wrote: Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback.... you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again? I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage! How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cheers, GIO >> HELLO ALL>  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island>                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP> > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€Â> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 I was scared when I heard jumping into couples counseling ahead of individual. They each need to know what they want and how they feel first. I'm glad she's scheduling the individual counseling now. Don't jump to conclusions about the future as the anger was too strong for now. It might be months from now (and I do mean months) that they can actually sit in a room and talk constructively together. They may or may not be good for each other as a couple. It also sounded like the same counselor would be counseling each of them? That's just wrong in my opinion. They need their own, one they can trust completely to be there for them. I also wouldn't put too much stock into what either says took place in this premature confrontation. They both were so raw as to pick up on things said, emphasize the worst, and twist things completely without knowing it. At this point, if one said the other's hair looked good, the other would say " are you saying you did this because my hair was ugly. " They know they love each other. Whether they want to be together and whether they can be together isn't something either of them possibly knows at this point. > > > > HELLO ALL > >  > > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island > >                                            > > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP > > > > > > > > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, " I will try again tomorrow.†> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Z.... I'm wondering if maybe they started therapy 'too soon'...that both of them are still stuck in anger and pain... it's hard to be patient and listen when all you want to do is scream and throw things and blame each other. But they will find a way I'm sure, if they can keep on keepin' on. Being a mom myself I know how hard it is to see our kids hurt... MamaSher; 70, IPF 3-06, OR. NasturtiumsDon't fret about tomorrow, God is already there! Re: and Kurt and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis!They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose!The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems.she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do somethingto make things go forward....Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote )Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!!Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!!I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now.The anger is so raw.The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want toto have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible.They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PA And “mild” PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!! No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked! Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zion” Bob Marley Vinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower wrote: Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback....you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again? I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage! How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO! Cheers, GIO >> HELLO ALL>  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island>                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP> > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 just want you to know I am praying about your sweet daughters life. Please try not to take on the stress. It caused me to do a drastic drop. Please take care of you. We all love you and are grieved with you. Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida,  IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis!They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose!The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems.she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do somethingto make things go forward....Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote )Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!!Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!!I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now.The anger is so raw.The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want toto have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible.They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PAAnd “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara     “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â Bob MarleyVinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower  wrote:Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback....you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again?I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage!How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!Cheers,GIO>> HELLO ALL>  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island>                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP> > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€Â> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 just want you to know I am praying about your sweet daughters life. Please try not to take on the stress. It caused me to do a drastic drop. Please take care of you. We all love you and are grieved with you. Love & Prayers, PeggyFlorida,  IPF/UIP 2004"I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet, when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." and Sher, Thanks for your concern about our family crisis!They went to couple counseling yesterday and all He-- broke loose!The therapist did not realize how new this was to both of them.. it seems.she thought that the mega fights were over and they were there to try to do somethingto make things go forward....Well...instead it became a very loud ,very angry session with the therapist sort of watching in horror( to quote )Kurt actually said that the three months of 's PPD were actually when he felt most needed and positive!!!Can you imagine someone saying that watching her go through such torture made him feel positive about things!!!!I can't even repeat here some of what was said by both of them...I don't think that they have a future as a couple right now.The anger is so raw.The only positive thing..they will see this therapist individually at least for a while.. said that she doesn't want toto have doubts later on that she didn't try everything possible.They still love each other...it's so damn sad!!! Z 65, fibriotic NSIP/05/PAAnd “mild†PH/10/07 and Reynaud’s too!!No, NSIP was not self-inflicted…I never smoked!Potter, reader,carousel lover and MomMom to Darah and Sara     “I’m gonna be iron like a lion in Zionâ€Â Bob MarleyVinca Minor-periwinkle is my flower  wrote:Hi Walt...thanks for that feedback....you & I seem to be in a similar boat with both the UIP & the NSIP as part of our profile. Unlike you I have so far resisted advice to start up on the prednisone. Would you make thesame decision again?I'm going for my annual PF 'check-up' next week & about to 'face the music' all over again. I've been going to sleep practising my response ahead of the barrage!How many ways are there to say no, No....NO... Thank You but NOOOOOOOOOOOO!Cheers,GIO>> HELLO ALL>  > Hope everyone is enjoying there day. Well I am almost off the prednisone, lost some weight and feeling better. I got/am so sick of all the different diagnoses and what to do. This disease has enough things to deal with then you add the seemingly lack of information or the changing information and makes it more frustrating. > Anyway: Just wanted to check in and say Hi from Whidbey Island>                                            > Walt DX 06 PF, NSIP, UIP> > > > > > Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow.â€Â> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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